Teddy Bear 'Mohammad'
- Thread starter GipsyQueen
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Well - so are most religions and probably half the reason the world is IN such a state 
But there you go! Of course, my opinion and worthless to anyone but me
The majority of religious people are good people... It's when religion becomes a tool of manipulation and power that it goes wrong, and sadly it is used by people to manipulate the masses in the WRONG way
One day eh? Got to have hope, otherwise what's the point?
But there you go! Of course, my opinion and worthless to anyone but me
The majority of religious people are good people... It's when religion becomes a tool of manipulation and power that it goes wrong, and sadly it is used by people to manipulate the masses in the WRONG way
One day eh? Got to have hope, otherwise what's the point?
Putting this woman to death is outrageous I mean come on she has not been initiated (whatever they call it) into their religion she is of a different religion so how can they dictate how she thinks and feels. And as someone here i forgot who pointed out it was the MUSLIM CHILDREN that named the bear Mohammed. They are of the religion and they did it. HMMMM lets think about that one.
They are using their manipulation and power to put this woman to death. HELLO! That is a perfect example of manipulation and power yet you are empathizing with the people who are doing this. But i geuss manipulating the masses to put a woman to death is not wrong.
They are using their manipulation and power to put this woman to death. HELLO! That is a perfect example of manipulation and power yet you are empathizing with the people who are doing this. But i geuss manipulating the masses to put a woman to death is not wrong.
She is back in the UK - she's not, nor EVER was going to be put to death.
This is why people have warped views - it's all propaganda and here'say.
I bet there was a TINY minority of people who wanted her to be put to death.
Just like a TINY minority of ANY religion are NUTS.
But of course, the news SEIZE this and this will be ALL you see.
The woman in question has said she was treated 100% A OK in prison. She was scared (as anyone would be in prison in ANY country).
You know, the definition of what is a brutal punishment varies worldwide, and within countries even.
As a country that abolished the death penalty I know most people find it horrific. I am sure you can find SOME people who want it still - and I bet when a big crime happens it's THOSE nuts that get represented on the TV and not the 99.9% of normal folk.
This is why people have warped views - it's all propaganda and here'say.
I bet there was a TINY minority of people who wanted her to be put to death.
Just like a TINY minority of ANY religion are NUTS.
But of course, the news SEIZE this and this will be ALL you see.
The woman in question has said she was treated 100% A OK in prison. She was scared (as anyone would be in prison in ANY country).
You know, the definition of what is a brutal punishment varies worldwide, and within countries even.
As a country that abolished the death penalty I know most people find it horrific. I am sure you can find SOME people who want it still - and I bet when a big crime happens it's THOSE nuts that get represented on the TV and not the 99.9% of normal folk.
I'm not keeping up with the story much because quite frankly I get sick of hearing about the Middle East and it scares me more and more for Josh to go into the Marines right now but its his life and because I love him I will support him in it.
As far as the nuts yea there are those but you know what in most countries they dont have that much sway or have them high up in the government.
And actually I support the death penalty I think in some cases its a way to protect people from a dangerous person.
And how she was treated is perfect ok she was treated fine. So these people should not be held accountable for wanting to KILL her. Thats like saying, and this is completely hypotheical, that I treat Tytus so if i plan to fight him thats ok. They can treat her great but that doesn't change the fact that they wanted to kill her. Thats an archaic way of thinking in my opinion.
As far as the nuts yea there are those but you know what in most countries they dont have that much sway or have them high up in the government.
And actually I support the death penalty
I think in some cases its a way to protect people from a dangerous person. And how she was treated is perfect ok she was treated fine. So these people should not be held accountable for wanting to KILL her. Thats like saying, and this is completely hypotheical, that I treat Tytus so if i plan to fight him thats ok. They can treat her great but that doesn't change the fact that they wanted to kill her. Thats an archaic way of thinking in my opinion.
I'm not keeping up with the story much because quite frankly I get sick of hearing about the Middle East and it scares me more and more for Josh to go into the Marines right now but its his life and because I love him I will support him in it.
As far as the nuts yea there are those but you know what in most countries they dont have that much sway or have them high up in the government.
And actually I support the death penalty I think in some cases its a way to protect people from a dangerous person.
And how she was treated is perfect ok she was treated fine. So these people should not be held accountable for wanting to KILL her. Thats like saying, and this is completely hypotheical, that I treat Tytus so if i plan to fight him thats ok. They can treat her great but that doesn't change the fact that they wanted to kill her. Thats an archaic way of thinking in my opinion.
As far as the nuts yea there are those but you know what in most countries they dont have that much sway or have them high up in the government.
And actually I support the death penalty
I think in some cases its a way to protect people from a dangerous person. And how she was treated is perfect ok she was treated fine. So these people should not be held accountable for wanting to KILL her. Thats like saying, and this is completely hypotheical, that I treat Tytus so if i plan to fight him thats ok. They can treat her great but that doesn't change the fact that they wanted to kill her. Thats an archaic way of thinking in my opinion.
If you mean "they" as in the government - they never wanted to kill her.
They sentenced her to 15 days in prison... That is all. No more, no less.
The NUTS wanted to kill her. I don't doubt it was a HUGE minority.
But the news LUUUUUUURVE that propaganda
*ETA - I think you'd be suprised at just how MANY religious nuts (as in not you're run of the mill nice folk) are high up in government - be them christian or believe in david ick's reptilian theories :yikes:
Thats how i was brought up^^^ I thought i was confused there for a second LOL.
Ok so the gvt. wasnt trying to put her to death thats how i took it with what i read here i didnt read the article. But they still imprisoned her and what dod she do really that gave them the need to imprision her. An investigation into a teddy bears name come on. Its a freaking teddy bear I have one named sh*thead (long story) but would anyone think of putting me to jail for it. I could understand if it was my childs name or another humans but a teddy bear.
And yes their are religious nuts in the gvt. but they are not getting away with things like this are they? They tried to do pass laws dealing with religion with the morning after pill and abortion but it did not work. So we can obviously keep ours in check. Especially since we have this handy little amendment called Seperation of Church and State.
Ok so the gvt. wasnt trying to put her to death thats how i took it with what i read here i didnt read the article. But they still imprisoned her and what dod she do really that gave them the need to imprision her. An investigation into a teddy bears name come on. Its a freaking teddy bear I have one named sh*thead (long story) but would anyone think of putting me to jail for it. I could understand if it was my childs name or another humans but a teddy bear.
And yes their are religious nuts in the gvt. but they are not getting away with things like this are they? They tried to do pass laws dealing with religion with the morning after pill and abortion but it did not work. So we can obviously keep ours in check. Especially since we have this handy little amendment called Seperation of Church and State.
Right, but the point is - it's not your (or my) country, and it's not your (or my) religion, and we're BOUND to find it extreme and unusual that they would imprison her for something we consider so stupid.
They think we're nuts for eating pigs.... Probably HORRIFIED.
But it's ok for us and totally normal to do so.
They did something we don't agree with. We don't HAVE to agree with it, or think it is right.
However, not ALL muslims wanted her dead, not ALL of them are extremeists and this was the original point I think that was being debated.
It was a few idiots who got their faces on TV.
There are far far more muslims who probably don't think she deserved ANY punishment at all, but they don't get made public, because, that is BORING tv isn't it.
Noone is condoning harsh punishments AT ALL. Period.
But she did something she should have known not to!!!! Not defending the prison sentence, certainly not saying I don't feel sorry for her one bit, but like in the quote - most sudanese think - she was a bit ignorant.
While I agree that no law should be passed based SOLELY on religious grounds... I have to call you on something.
The words "separation of church and state" do not appear in any of our founding documents and it is certainly not an amendment. The only thing that comes close is the 1st Amendment...
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
I read this to see that the government cannot order a specific state religion. One might even be able to argue that the idea of complete seperation of church and state actually infringes upon a officals right to practice the religion of his/her choice.
The actual phrase "seperation of church and state" is credited to Thomas Jefferson in a letter to a group of Anabaptists. (Amish) A part of the letter...
""Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state."
I read this to say the Jefferson (a very devout Christian) wanted to be clear that government will not rule religion, just as religion will not rule the government. I don't think this was ever meant to say that a person in government cannot have faith. Because to a lot of people, their faith is were they draw their principles.
Just a little background. It really bothers me when people shoot the words "seperation of church and state" and have no idea what that really means or where it came from. Whats worse is you thought it was an actual amendment to the Constitution.