Savethebulliedbreeds:
Personally I would never chain my dog for the simple fact of being terriefied he would get off. I don't have proper chaining equiptment ect. My dog gets kenneled outside in a 8 X 10 run when we are not home for the most part. It has a top on it and a pad lock on the gate.
Nothing wrong with an individual not desiring to chain their dogs, don’t believe anyone has a problem with that. What I personally dislike is those that choose not to or opt to use a kennel or possibly even a crate in the house tend to make chaining out to be inhumane despite studies done! So for them I’ll use you as an example, but first I commend you for being responsible enough to at least properly contain them! Now you use an 8X10 kennel which is equivalent to 80 square feet now if one desired the same square footage they’d only need an 4.5 foot chain…never personally seen a dog on one so short.
As for the supposed weight burden that chain imposes on the dog a few brought up. I went out and looked at my tallest dog and counted the chain links until it touched the ground and add 8 more links (total of 16 links and 20inches in length). As I figure without any scientific testing by the time the chain got to the 8 link passed the one touching the ground it wouldn’t be adding any weight to the dog. I use 1/4'”, grade 70 chain on all my dogs which weighs 0.63lbs per foot. When adding the swivel, chain, #120 stainless steel S-hooks (2), stainless steel o-ring, and a 3/8” stainless steel swivel-comes to whopping weight of 2.76lbs. Now I’m sure that doesn’t really mean anything to most members of this board. So let’s put it into perspective the clothing I wore today (jeans size 32X36, button down shirt, socks, and shoes) weighted in at 6.54lbs. Surely a dog that is stronger, has more endurance, etc than I or the average man can tote around 237 times less then what I do for the majority of the day? I’d love to hear from the ‘chaining is cruel” inhumane group on how it is. I’d bet their “family member” pets carry around more than that in simply excessive weight.
J’s crew:
Just curious as to how you can compare the decision making process of a human to that of a dog?
Glad you’re curious as I’m equally curious as to why you can’t answer a single question? But to address your curiosity please show me where I compared any decision making process between the two? I simply referred to two similar events both athletes can/do partake in. After all a dog or any other pet doesn’t decide anything it's decided for them since their domestication.
Also, for your information, I work with a organization now that is trying to outlaw tethering of all kinds. In my work I try to educate people that own chained dogs, as well as people that own kenneled dogs. The laws in place now are absurd, so no, I do not feel that if you do things according to the law that everything is just honkey dory.
Good luck in that…hope you’re better at that endeavor than explaining your views and stances in here! Unsure how you could “educate” anyone as you have a board full of individuals seeking that knowledge you claim to possess on this thread and have yet to remotely began to educate anyone. Please start over and “educate” me, being I own dogs that are contained properly using a chain set-up!
And, if you read my post the first time you would have seen where it stated I do rescue.
Please stop rescuing dogs as you’re giving them a horrible image by your own admissions and inability to even explain your stance on any issues you claim to oppose.
Rescuing is not an excuse at all. The only reason I say it is less than ideal is because I would prefer them to all get along and be together.
Well come back to reality and start realizing that if it’s a “rescue” odds are it will be coming with baggage!
But, since they are passing through, it is much better to allow them to be inside, where there is no threat of them being hurt by the neighborhood bully, poisoned by the neighbor, or frustrated because they see me in the house and are dying to be with me, where they belong.
How about instead of worrying so much about others…you find a more appropriate area to live in so those morbid worries wouldn’t be an issue? I’ll bet dollars to donuts you’ve never once had a dog see you in the house and was dying to get in just to be with you. You have quite the imagination that is far from reality!
I really could care less if you believe me or not. I have no need to post pedigree's on the net to prove a point. Believe me, I am not the one trying to look macho here.....your the one with the dogs on a chain, remember???
In other words…you can’t because (1) you never had any, or (2) they were nothing more than mutts you’re claiming to be APBT’s? How is properly containing my dogs and being a responsible owner…trying to look “macho”?
Dr2little:
That's why I'm shocked that any one who truly loves this dog would not want to try to breed down their DA side. How selfish is it, knowing that as long as the are so DA they will be abused by many, that people who should be defending them...only care to defend their RIGHT to own them as they are now.
How clueless and selfish are you with such lunacy thinking? In order to deal with irresponsible owners, propaganda brought on by extremist and humane groups, simpletons, etc we as enthusiast should destroy the breed and what makes it what it is? If you honestly believe that would work get in contact with those of the German Shepard, Rottweilers, Neopolitan Mastiff, Doberman Pinscher, Dogue De Bordeaux, Jack Russell Terrier’s, etc the list is endless and see if it helped any of those breeds overcome the adversity of idiots, BYB, propaganda, humane societies “hit list”, etc!