Some Pit Education

[silverpawz]

they are magnificent and amazing because of the countless, gratifying hours you spent with them to obtain that achievement.
I hope a painting then, can do all that for you then.
Personally, I prefer hands on. experience.

Again, simply being able to gaze out your window at the magnificent animals you have, does not equal a good enough reason for chaining. At least not to me. I don't see dogs as lawn orniments. I have garden nomes and a nifty glass ball on a stand for that.

 

[Gamedogs]

You dont worry about that last connection point on the chain?

Of course, which is why they are checked nearly on a daily basis (depending on the dog) and usually have to be replaced in 6-8 months, sometime longer (depending on the dogs that are on it during that time).

 

[2nd2none]

. I have garden nomes and a nifty glass ball on a stand for that.

I hope they bring you endless gratification, then.

 

[silverpawz]

I hope they bring you endless gratification, then.

LOL. Thanks. I'm quite fond of the gnomes, and I don't even have to feed them.

 

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Wow, am I ever sorry that I missed this thread. First of all I never read a fraction of the posts so if this has been said then I am sorry for repeating.

I would like to say that those dogs are in top physical condition. They are gorgeous.

A malnourished or thin dog will also lose muscle mass. These dogs are definately not either. They are lean, which is compleley differnt.

Also, I read a part about the HUGE chain stuff. Sooooooooo, lets do some math. A well conditioned APBT can pull up to 50 times its own weight. So the average APBT weighs about 65lbs (correct me if I am wrong), times that by 50 and you end up with 3,250 lbs. I don't have a problem with the chain that dog was on, especially since he explained that it only weighs 5 lbs.

 

[blue]

Of course, which is why they are checked nearly on a daily basis (depending on the dog) and usually have to be replaced in 6-8 months, sometime longer (depending on the dogs that are on it during that time).

Good you check on a daily basis my dad gave up keeping a coller on his newf when he moved to the boonies of NC.

 

[Gamedogs]

Also, I read a part about the HUGE chain stuff. Sooooooooo, lets do some math. A well conditioned APBT can pull up to 50 times its own weight. So the average APBT weighs about 65lbs (correct me if I am wrong), times that by 50 and you end up with 3,250 lbs. I don't have a problem with the chain that dog was on, especially since he explained that it only weighs 5 lbs.

APBTs weigh anywhere from the low 20s into the 70s (usually at the most, there may be 1 out of 1,000 that are actually APBTs weighing 75+). I was mistaken when I said that the chain she was on in that picture was only 8' long, she was on a different run than I was thinking, that was actually a 16.5' chain making "that" chain weigh 10.725lbs (plus additional hardware).

 

[RD]

Oh, gawd. I KNOW I said that I'd made my last post on this thread but there is still a lot I'm curious about. Just one more question.

These dogs can pull an insane amount of weight, so the chain needs to be strong. We've established that.

How about what the chain is attached to? I see a lot of them simply tied to a stake in the ground. Surely they can uproot a stake if they can pull over 3200lbs.

 

[savethebulliedbreeds]

APBTs weigh anywhere from the low 20s into the 70s (usually at the most, there may be 1 out of 1,000 that are actually APBTs waying 75+). I was mistaken when I said that the chain she was on in that picture was only 8' long, she was on a different run than I was thinking, that was actually a 16.5' chain making "that" chain weigh 10.725lbs (plus additional hardware).

Oh, 10 lbs is not bad for them to carry around at all. Sorry I was thinking of AmStaffs for weight. But I was pretty much just making the point that there was nothing wrong with the chain...if you are gonna have 'em on a chain it better be strong lol...especially if you have a strong willed dog.

 

[Miakoda]

Oh, gawd. I KNOW I said that I'd made my last post on this thread but there is still a lot I'm curious about. Just one more question.

These dogs can pull an insane amount of weight, so the chain needs to be strong. We've established that.

How about what the chain is attached to? I see a lot of them simply tied to a stake in the ground. Surely they can uproot a stake if they can pull over 3200lbs.

For that very reason, most people use buried car axles as chain anchors. Maybe this is overkill, but it's better to be safe than sorry. All the "pit bull' breeds are on the verge on extinction due to careless owners causing cities/governments to implement BSL (Breed Specific Legislation), therefore we cannot afford any "accidents".

 

[Gamedogs]

Oh, gawd. I KNOW I said that I'd made my last post on this thread but there is still a lot I'm curious about. Just one more question.

These dogs can pull an insane amount of weight, so the chain needs to be strong. We've established that.

How about what the chain is attached to? I see a lot of them simply tied to a stake in the ground. Surely they can uproot a stake if they can pull over 3200lbs.

They are car axles (that I use anyway) that are in red clay 2 to 2.5' deep. They're not going to try to "pull" them out, they simply lunge and hit the end of the chain occassionally, they don't act the same as they would if they were pulling weights.

 

[savethebulliedbreeds]

These dogs can pull an insane amount of weight, so the chain needs to be strong. We've established that.

Sorry RD, like I said, I never read even a fraction of the posts so I didnt know that. Sorry again.

 

[2nd2none]

Oh, gawd. I KNOW I said that I'd made my last post on this thread but there is still a lot I'm curious about. Just one more question.

lol! curiosity is good!

Tha APBT truly is an amazing breed!

 

[RD]

Sorry RD, like I said, I never read even a fraction of the posts so I didnt know that. Sorry again.

What are you apologizing for? I wasn't referring to your post in particular SBB, just all the posts in general on how much the dogs can pull.

The car axles are actually what I've seen. I thought they were just big heavy stakes. That makes a lot of sense. But then I'm also curious (LMAO, I'm sorry!) if they don't pull like they do when they're pulling weights, why do they need the super strong chains? Is it just because they hit the end of the chain with such force?

Oh, and btw, gamedogs . . . Lil Bit really is gorgeous. However she got that way, she seems to be in great shape.

 

[jess2416]

This certainly has been as interesting thread...

 

[savethebulliedbreeds]

What are you apologizing for? I wasn't referring to your post, just all the posts in general on how much the dogs can pull.

Oh ok, I just thought it was directed at me lol.

 

[Gamedogs]

The car axles are actually what I've seen. I thought they were just big heavy stakes. That makes a lot of sense. But then I'm also curious (LMAO, I'm sorry!) if they don't pull like they do when they're pulling weights, why do they need the super strong chains? Is it just because they hit the end of the chain with such force?

Oh, and btw, gamedogs . . . Lil Bit really is gorgeous. However she got that way, she seems to be in great shape.

Not just because they hit the end of the chain with "such force" but also because an active dog will wear down different links and hardware (depending on where it is located)... so instead of using weaker, and heavier grade 30 chain, we use grade 43 (lighter, stonger, and wears less than a regular chain would), it's a little more expensive, but it actually saves money over having to replace the chains more often. I would actually rather use 1\4" grade 70 chain, it's only 0.1 of a pound heavier per foot and is a lot tougher.

And about the "However she got that way," I thought that had already been cleared up. She is a "house dog" that goes out on a chain occassionally who is extremely high strung, energetic, and drivey, she has had no purposeful work (I better say "exercise" instead) whatsoever. I don't have any reason to lie about it, and I'm not sure why people keep questioning everything I say (not specifically directed toward you).

 

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Sorry, gamedogs, like I have stated before, I never went through the whole thread...do you have him in weight pulling?

 

[Gamedogs]

Sorry, gamedogs, like I have stated before, I never went through the whole thread...do you have him in weight pulling?

No, she is basically just a house pet at this time.

 

[Miakoda]

Sorry, gamedogs, like I have stated before, I never went through the whole thread...do you have him in weight pulling?

Nope. Lil Bit is just a young female who's sole exercise is around the house zoomies. Other than just being a dog, she participates in no sports & gets no goal-oriented exercise (such as conditioning for shows, weightpulls, hunts, etc.)

Gamedogs, you know I love you.....right?