Silverpawz:
Texasbulldogs, if you can't understand my posts then that's your problem and not mine. I'm using proper english, if you can't comprehend what I'm typing then there's nothing I can do about that.
I understand it fine…after all who can understand jibber jabber filled with absolutely zero factual information or experience? Instead of stating how, “There’s nothing I can do” how about actually giving something besides an uneducated opinion based on falsehood and misinformation fabricated in your imagination?
Apparently people who disagree with you all have 'wild imaginations' and 'can't answer questions'. Fine. Nice side stepping. I'm not going to go around in circles with you on these issues as it's like talking to a brick wall.
Never once stated such nonsense but you do fit that description rather well! I based that simply by your outlandish perceptions you’re attempting to make to back up your claims and uneducated views. Shall we look at the facts? My first post was # 293 and on your post # 300 you directly replied to my post. On post # 341 I replied to yours and other member’s direct question in regards to my initial post and posed some directly towards y’all. Not a sole member answered them…not even one! Wasn’t until post # 455 that one of them was addressed by Amstaffer. Even though afterwards you posted more questions directly to me specifically, based on what I wrote once again you failed to answer a single question, offer any information to back up your outlandish claims, and if the response wasn’t one you envisioned it would be you simply attempted to reword or make excuses on how you didn’t mean such and such as such despite you writing it. In the numerous post you’ve made on this thread can you point out a single informative post you’ve made based on actual firsthand experience, studies, anything other than your uneducated opinion based on your imagination and what you’ve been brainwashed to perceive it as? One would think if you or anyone else is so sure of the ill effects of chaining, condition of a dog, etc you/they would have more than just an opinion to base the views on. But not a single member has seen such from you or the others that share similar views, solely just useless opinions! So please tell…who is side stepping and avoiding?
Amstaffer:
Because some areas are backward and ignorant...They lack the cultural development to have empathy to other beings.
Of course that’s it couldn’t be ones perspective on what is cruelty and not? After all we know every person in such organizations or humane groups view everything in the same light.
Are they changing or evolving to a higher state?
That would be dependant on ones view of it I suppose?
Well actually in Europe (some countries) and in Oregon that is now the case...another case of evolving. Why not allow a person who is dying to go with dignity just like we do to our dying and suffering dogs..
Well we don’t reside in Europe and in Oregon don’t believe anyone has ever received such treatment! Is “dignity” what you tell yourself to get over the fact you intentionally killed that so-called “family member”, not only that but has a stranger willingly do it for you?
Ah so your reason for supporting abuse you find ok is say "well tommy breaks the rules so why can't I break the rules?"
Please show me anywhere on the internet I supported abuse or used what others do/did to justify my own actions? I not once said anything other than people should be more concerned about what happens in their own yard and household and less about what their neighbor, someone down the block or in another state is doing or how they’re treating their animals. Ironic how we had much less problems in all regards to our animals before the busy bodies started concerning themselves and elevating the status of an animal. Equally odd how those same “enlightened ones” tend to be the less educated on the so-called animals their saving.
Why is DA such important part of the breed for so many of you?
It’s not that it’s important what is though is all the traits that make up the breed. Breeding is not as simplistic as being about to just say, “Well I don’t want “X” trait but I want to retain or improve all the others this breed has”! Sure someone can take dog aggression out of the breed…what other traits will be lost in that process and other negative ones added in the process?
It’s apparent that the chaining issues is not one of cruelty or one that is a result of being inhumane given not any of the self-righteous proponents of it has listed anything backing up their claims. Simply only stated their opinions back up by nothing. Though they have went to extremes and are under the impression a chained animal is automatically abandoned and not done anything with. Never once thinking if that was going to happen and the mentality of said owner it would happen on a chain, in a kennel, or even in a house. What it ultimately boils down to is simply the perspective of a pet owner versus that of enthusiast that cherish, a breeds working traits and abilities above anything else. Amazing how those same pet owners complaining about how cruel this or that is never once look in the mirror and see how they and others like them are the number one problem in all working breeds! Until the pet owners and strictly conformation breeders got their hands on any working breed the dogs where healthier, more stable, didn’t have problems with running the streets, attacking people, etc. Seems odd how dogs in pet homes tend to be the over weight ones, problem ones, those seen negatively on the media, etc. For all the enlightened pet owners that believe a dog is only happy if in a house. Please explain why the over whelming major of any of the great working dogs of any breed always tend to be those kept outdoors? The best representatives of all working dogs tend to be those kept outdoors properly contained in a kennel, chain set-up, etc owned by true enthusiast of the breed that covet it’s working traits. Which also tend to receive more exercise and training, are better breed, healthier, and over all a better adjusted more capable dog breed and doing what it was designed to do.
To those that constantly claim and attempt to use “weight” as a reason it’s so cruel for the dogs. Please explain how it’s so heavy like you constantly claim as I’ve already shown based on my own clothing weight and dogs chain weight how I carry 237 times what the dog is. Either; start providing something other than an uneducated opinion to back up your claims and going to extremes or shut up and possibly open you mind so that you may possibly learn something!
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