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Candy is sooo cute! Sid sounds adorable, too.
Personally... I would avoid adopting a shy, withdrawn dog in your situation. To me, that could easily exacerbate Peyton's pushiness, as a skittish, submissive dog will let her get away with it. I would be looking for a very well-mannered, balanced dog who would correct her over-zealousness without over correcting it. But that is IMHO and you obviously know Peyton much better than I do!
As far as reactiveness to other dogs, I agree with Lizzybeth. Control Unleashed completely opened my eyes to my own dog reactive dog. Gonzo, when he sees other dogs running/playing, would fly off the handle. I went through YEARS of Obedience training with behaviorists, all the way up to competitive level and Rally-O. He was highly trained, but if I wasn't giving him commands, he would revert back to fixating and freaking out. The process of slowly, consistently desensitizing a dog changes the way that they see other dogs completely. Other dogs are no longer a big deal to Gonzo - he is still very, very play and chase driven, but he knows that there is a time and a place. Correcting or "popping" or "snapping" a dog who is reactive is doing nothing but creating negative connotations in your dog's mind, toward you and toward the presence of other dogs.
That Petsmart video simply shows a dog who is WAY over threshold. It's one of the reasons I don't recommend Petsmart trainers (and I work there)... especially for dog reactive dogs. You are sitting in a small room filled with other dogs, with other dogs walking around the store, and it reeks of other dogs everywhere. You can't even get under threshold in that environment. I highly recommend reading those books, seriously, it's $20 and a few hours of your life! I also recommend finding Obedience classes with certified behaviorists that are positive reinforcement based, and involve clicker training if possible.
Personally... I would avoid adopting a shy, withdrawn dog in your situation. To me, that could easily exacerbate Peyton's pushiness, as a skittish, submissive dog will let her get away with it. I would be looking for a very well-mannered, balanced dog who would correct her over-zealousness without over correcting it. But that is IMHO and you obviously know Peyton much better than I do!
As far as reactiveness to other dogs, I agree with Lizzybeth. Control Unleashed completely opened my eyes to my own dog reactive dog. Gonzo, when he sees other dogs running/playing, would fly off the handle. I went through YEARS of Obedience training with behaviorists, all the way up to competitive level and Rally-O. He was highly trained, but if I wasn't giving him commands, he would revert back to fixating and freaking out. The process of slowly, consistently desensitizing a dog changes the way that they see other dogs completely. Other dogs are no longer a big deal to Gonzo - he is still very, very play and chase driven, but he knows that there is a time and a place. Correcting or "popping" or "snapping" a dog who is reactive is doing nothing but creating negative connotations in your dog's mind, toward you and toward the presence of other dogs.
That Petsmart video simply shows a dog who is WAY over threshold. It's one of the reasons I don't recommend Petsmart trainers (and I work there)... especially for dog reactive dogs. You are sitting in a small room filled with other dogs, with other dogs walking around the store, and it reeks of other dogs everywhere. You can't even get under threshold in that environment. I highly recommend reading those books, seriously, it's $20 and a few hours of your life! I also recommend finding Obedience classes with certified behaviorists that are positive reinforcement based, and involve clicker training if possible.
We looked at about 40 dogs today including 5 aussie and 3 bc's I even went back and saw Blackey. Peyton is worn out, we drove 100 miles to various rescues.
One dog stood out. I mean r-e-a-l-l-y stood out. A Male BC. He had it all.
I thought Peyton was smart, this dog makes Peyton look slow. He's laid back but will play. He has BC focus I mean LASER focus. He's shy at times but warms up nicely. I spent about an hour with him. He's just a very cool dog.
How smart is he? I taught him one thing and did it one time. The next time, he remember what I wanted and did it. I'm talking only 1 time I told him. What was interesting was he almost forgot it, then at the last second he did it! I could see him recalling what I had said. Pretty cool.
An airplane went over, he cocked his head and looked for the airplane in the sky. There was a lot of that BC stances over the tennis ball but was just as happy to hang out. Not obsessive at all about anything as you will see.
What also interested me and you'll see on the video is how calm Peyton was. She wasn't jumping all over him, wasn't afraid, she felt comfortable I think pretty early on. The first video is the initial 2 minutes of the meet and greet. You'll see what I saw at the very first nose to nose meeting.
Later, he and Peyton were chasing the ball, he got it and tossed it to her. Yeah, he tossed the ball to Peyton. If she got the ball, he was fine with it, if he got the ball and she tried to take it away he let her know he had it and Peyton was good with it.
He has the three things I was looking for intelligence, sociability and focus. He's housebroken and crate trained but no basic obedience. He's about 13-14 months old, picked up as a stray, too thin right now but fully vetted. Cats everywhere at this house, he’s good with cats and loves children. He was just an easy dog to like and I think it would be an easy fit in our home.
I found something I could complain about in all the dogs I have seen. They were ugly, too big, too shy, to dumb, too obsessive, too old, too young. I left thinking, gee, I can't find anything that I don't like about this dog.
At first I was put off by his Amber eyes, they looked kinda creepy and I'll tell you a story later about how the color of his eyes almost got him killed, but after you're with the dog, you see there is nothing creepy at all.
Here is video 1. YouTube - VID 00003
One dog stood out. I mean r-e-a-l-l-y stood out. A Male BC. He had it all.
I thought Peyton was smart, this dog makes Peyton look slow. He's laid back but will play. He has BC focus I mean LASER focus. He's shy at times but warms up nicely. I spent about an hour with him. He's just a very cool dog.
How smart is he? I taught him one thing and did it one time. The next time, he remember what I wanted and did it. I'm talking only 1 time I told him. What was interesting was he almost forgot it, then at the last second he did it! I could see him recalling what I had said. Pretty cool.
An airplane went over, he cocked his head and looked for the airplane in the sky. There was a lot of that BC stances over the tennis ball but was just as happy to hang out. Not obsessive at all about anything as you will see.
What also interested me and you'll see on the video is how calm Peyton was. She wasn't jumping all over him, wasn't afraid, she felt comfortable I think pretty early on. The first video is the initial 2 minutes of the meet and greet. You'll see what I saw at the very first nose to nose meeting.
Later, he and Peyton were chasing the ball, he got it and tossed it to her. Yeah, he tossed the ball to Peyton. If she got the ball, he was fine with it, if he got the ball and she tried to take it away he let her know he had it and Peyton was good with it.
He has the three things I was looking for intelligence, sociability and focus. He's housebroken and crate trained but no basic obedience. He's about 13-14 months old, picked up as a stray, too thin right now but fully vetted. Cats everywhere at this house, he’s good with cats and loves children. He was just an easy dog to like and I think it would be an easy fit in our home.
I found something I could complain about in all the dogs I have seen. They were ugly, too big, too shy, to dumb, too obsessive, too old, too young. I left thinking, gee, I can't find anything that I don't like about this dog.
At first I was put off by his Amber eyes, they looked kinda creepy and I'll tell you a story later about how the color of his eyes almost got him killed, but after you're with the dog, you see there is nothing creepy at all.
Here is video 1. YouTube - VID 00003
Here is the story about his eyes. The lady that rescued him told me that she got a call from a shelter saying she had a "devil" dog and was going to put the dog down because it had "evil" eyes. The Devil lives in this dog she said. He got rescued obviously but just goes to show you how stupid and superstitious people can be sometimes. We can save that discussion for another thread. I have to admit him staring you down is a little un-nerving at first. You can't see how yellow they are on this video.
Candy is in foster home, got an email from a 3rd party, waiting to hear something on her.
Candy is in foster home, got an email from a 3rd party, waiting to hear something on her.
3 weeks, 50, all fine according to the lady.
There's nothing remarkable in the vids, it struck me as two calm well balanced dogs. The remarkable thing about that was Peytons reaction to this dog. She just didn't show her typical dog reactiveness for some reason. No clue why this happened.
I think I did order that book one time, Barnes and Noble even called me to say it was in. I forgot to pick it up. Thanks for reminding me.
I went back to see Blackey but left Peyton in the car. The dog wouldn't eat a hot dog bite. Once again I couldn't get her attention. She was a bouncy bouncy dog and would probably be too large when fully grown. Sweet dog for sure, but I left knowing it wasn't the dog for me. I wish her well.
Sid is a super super sweet dog, you can see it in his eyes, but again I'm just not ready for another total makeover project dog. I saw the same look in his eyes as Peyton that first day, "mousey". Very calm, not knowing what was in the world was going on. He licked my hand just like Peyton does, very softly and gentle and wasn't obsessive and wouldn't even jump on the couch or chair. Very quiet and reserved, but wanting to be a friendly dog VERY badly. Highly social driven, very sensitize, but unsure.
Maybe the coolest looking dog was the Amber eyed B&W BC. There was no guessing this dogs breed. The problem there was just waaaay too hyper. If anything overly friendly, bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy and had a hard time controlling herself. My guess is it came from working stock and would be better on a farm than a city house dog. Cool dog, but not for me.
My first impression of the BC in the vids was just ok. I wasn't bold over by his beauty but once I spent some time, I thought he was a cool looking dog. The vids don't do him justice. I can't say I'm wild about that tail but his markings on his face are very good. His head is larger than Peytons and once he's filled out, would reach 50lbs plus is my guess. His looks didn't win me over, but his mind did. This dog is "Border Collie smart" and it didn't take long for that to show up.
I always heard BC are too hyper for inside dogs and so I've tended to shy away. The B&W BC was too hyper, but the one in the video was much more laid back. My guess is I would have the best of both worlds. I also left thinking this BC would CGC before Peyton would and this BC doesn't know sit from heal today. He has had ZERO basic training. He's not good on a leash, he pulls. Rescue named him Bobbie, but he doesn't answer to it very well, you hear that name called on the vids.
He is another project dog, but at the same time he has all the elements to make a great dog I "think". He has natural sociability and the intelligence and focus I was looking for to train. He seems to be able to control himself "mostly" and he's not a bouncy bouncy kind of dog in any case. Honestly, I can't say I've seen more "potential" in any other dog I have found to date since Peyton. You don't' see that potential in the videos but I did and just didn't catch it on camera.
I'm going to see Candy next but as of today, "Amber Eyes BC" is at the top of my list and not because of what he is, but what I think he could be. He's the right size, age and temperament I was looking for on top of having the smarts and sociably. I guessed right with Peyton at the shelter that first day and I "think" I'm right about this one too. This is a good dog at his core.
Let's face it, it's a crap shoot at best and how the dog would react in my home and Peytons home is anybody's guess. But my sense is, he goes along with the program pretty well and would settle in just fine. The rest would be up to me.
There's nothing remarkable in the vids, it struck me as two calm well balanced dogs. The remarkable thing about that was Peytons reaction to this dog. She just didn't show her typical dog reactiveness for some reason. No clue why this happened.
I think I did order that book one time, Barnes and Noble even called me to say it was in. I forgot to pick it up. Thanks for reminding me.
I went back to see Blackey but left Peyton in the car. The dog wouldn't eat a hot dog bite. Once again I couldn't get her attention. She was a bouncy bouncy dog and would probably be too large when fully grown. Sweet dog for sure, but I left knowing it wasn't the dog for me. I wish her well.
Sid is a super super sweet dog, you can see it in his eyes, but again I'm just not ready for another total makeover project dog. I saw the same look in his eyes as Peyton that first day, "mousey". Very calm, not knowing what was in the world was going on. He licked my hand just like Peyton does, very softly and gentle and wasn't obsessive and wouldn't even jump on the couch or chair. Very quiet and reserved, but wanting to be a friendly dog VERY badly. Highly social driven, very sensitize, but unsure.
Maybe the coolest looking dog was the Amber eyed B&W BC. There was no guessing this dogs breed. The problem there was just waaaay too hyper. If anything overly friendly, bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy and had a hard time controlling herself. My guess is it came from working stock and would be better on a farm than a city house dog. Cool dog, but not for me.
My first impression of the BC in the vids was just ok. I wasn't bold over by his beauty but once I spent some time, I thought he was a cool looking dog. The vids don't do him justice. I can't say I'm wild about that tail but his markings on his face are very good. His head is larger than Peytons and once he's filled out, would reach 50lbs plus is my guess. His looks didn't win me over, but his mind did. This dog is "Border Collie smart" and it didn't take long for that to show up.
I always heard BC are too hyper for inside dogs and so I've tended to shy away. The B&W BC was too hyper, but the one in the video was much more laid back. My guess is I would have the best of both worlds. I also left thinking this BC would CGC before Peyton would and this BC doesn't know sit from heal today. He has had ZERO basic training. He's not good on a leash, he pulls. Rescue named him Bobbie, but he doesn't answer to it very well, you hear that name called on the vids.
He is another project dog, but at the same time he has all the elements to make a great dog I "think". He has natural sociability and the intelligence and focus I was looking for to train. He seems to be able to control himself "mostly" and he's not a bouncy bouncy kind of dog in any case. Honestly, I can't say I've seen more "potential" in any other dog I have found to date since Peyton. You don't' see that potential in the videos but I did and just didn't catch it on camera.
I'm going to see Candy next but as of today, "Amber Eyes BC" is at the top of my list and not because of what he is, but what I think he could be. He's the right size, age and temperament I was looking for on top of having the smarts and sociably. I guessed right with Peyton at the shelter that first day and I "think" I'm right about this one too. This is a good dog at his core.
Let's face it, it's a crap shoot at best and how the dog would react in my home and Peytons home is anybody's guess. But my sense is, he goes along with the program pretty well and would settle in just fine. The rest would be up to me.
You bring up an interesting point. See the last video. The BC tells Peyton to back off. YouTube - Last BC+Peyton
Yeah Peyton can be a real little bitch at times. Everything revolves around her. All bones and toys and food are hers if she can have it turn out that way.
I had the Mal here for a few months and gave them each a soup bone one day. The Mal dropped his, Peyton ran between his legs, got it, then ran back to the one she left and laid on the Mals bone. The Mal was like..wher'd it go? Peyton wasn't saying a word but was watching him and all the Mal could see was her with one bone. There were many times, the Mal would have a toy in his mouth and Peyton would just come up and take it right out of his mouth. The Mal was like...ok, doe-dee-doe, what---ever, but I could see that not working out with some dogs. Peyton was never aggressive about it, but was clear she wanted what the other dog had even if they had the EXACT same toy. I have seen her with BOTH toys in her mouth. I can't pet another dog unless Peyton get's some too. If I put down two bowls of food, she has to check both bowls out first.
I think this comes from her background before me. When she first arrived at my house, she would hide EVERYTHING I gave her. She didn't do that after a while and the next time and the only time I have seen it was with another dog in the house. One thing I know about Peyton, once she thinks and learns something, she never forgets. It's the downside of having a very smart dog if they learn something that's not good.
Yeah Peyton can be a real little bitch at times. Everything revolves around her. All bones and toys and food are hers if she can have it turn out that way.
I had the Mal here for a few months and gave them each a soup bone one day. The Mal dropped his, Peyton ran between his legs, got it, then ran back to the one she left and laid on the Mals bone. The Mal was like..wher'd it go? Peyton wasn't saying a word but was watching him and all the Mal could see was her with one bone. There were many times, the Mal would have a toy in his mouth and Peyton would just come up and take it right out of his mouth. The Mal was like...ok, doe-dee-doe, what---ever, but I could see that not working out with some dogs. Peyton was never aggressive about it, but was clear she wanted what the other dog had even if they had the EXACT same toy. I have seen her with BOTH toys in her mouth. I can't pet another dog unless Peyton get's some too. If I put down two bowls of food, she has to check both bowls out first.
I think this comes from her background before me. When she first arrived at my house, she would hide EVERYTHING I gave her. She didn't do that after a while and the next time and the only time I have seen it was with another dog in the house. One thing I know about Peyton, once she thinks and learns something, she never forgets. It's the downside of having a very smart dog if they learn something that's not good.
ok my take,,(and agree with alot already said),,,Sid, would not work for me, he sounds like a nice dog, but with a dog like Peyton, she would most likely end up intimidating the heck out of him, (been there done that),,and if he's a soft already,,he's gonna end up a "marshmellow" so I'd pass on him too.
The BC in the video's,,I would HIGHLY consider,,for most of the reasons you state, and my reasons would be (just from watching them interact on the videos),,he does seem to balance Peyton out, calm her for whatever reason,,they co existed quite nicely, YET, they both are not so "into" each other that it would detract from them being into "YOU"..get what I mean??? He does not appear over the top I-am-on-a-constant-mission border, (and there are some of those out there
) he had very good focus on you, vs being "into" Peyton the entire time,,they tolerated each other well.
I did notice his "growlybarky" thing at Peyton in the last video, and that was probably good for her, I liked her backed off reaction vs I'm gonna push you further.
I have lived with alot of really wonderful dogs, always had multiples, and I have to say, I would always always pick a dog who was more into "me" than my other dogs..Fortunately for me, it's always been this way. Sure they play with each other, but they are not obsessed with each other,,they are obsessed with ME, which is how I want it) Makes for easier living and easier training..
I think the next step I would take, is see if you can take this boy for a week and see how it goes,,training him will most likely be a breeze so I'm not going to even get into that,,BC's are incredibly smart, I again, like that he isn't over the top compulsive, obsessive, and seems quite willing..
Ok, that's my 2cents))
The BC in the video's,,I would HIGHLY consider,,for most of the reasons you state, and my reasons would be (just from watching them interact on the videos),,he does seem to balance Peyton out, calm her for whatever reason,,they co existed quite nicely, YET, they both are not so "into" each other that it would detract from them being into "YOU"..get what I mean??? He does not appear over the top I-am-on-a-constant-mission border, (and there are some of those out there
) he had very good focus on you, vs being "into" Peyton the entire time,,they tolerated each other well.I did notice his "growlybarky" thing at Peyton in the last video, and that was probably good for her, I liked her backed off reaction vs I'm gonna push you further.
I have lived with alot of really wonderful dogs, always had multiples, and I have to say, I would always always pick a dog who was more into "me" than my other dogs..Fortunately for me, it's always been this way. Sure they play with each other, but they are not obsessed with each other,,they are obsessed with ME, which is how I want it
) Makes for easier living and easier training..I think the next step I would take, is see if you can take this boy for a week and see how it goes,,training him will most likely be a breeze so I'm not going to even get into that,,BC's are incredibly smart, I again, like that he isn't over the top compulsive, obsessive, and seems quite willing..
Ok, that's my 2cents
))Thanks for looking so carefully, you caught that too huh?
I thought that was unusual given their faces were so close together when I saw it through the lens. It was all about me for a change and it was that way often and even when we left, they both were staring right at me, not at each other. It was almost like Peyton was asking if he could come home and the BC wanted to come too. I may be reading waaay more into this than what's there, but the focus was on me by both and it was more often that not.
For whatever the reason that BC seemed to connect with me. It took a little while to train Peyton to look into my eyes and hold a stare (a week), this BC did it naturally for some reason. I only gave him one small bite of Hotdog the whole time I was there and seemingly became his best friend. It was also interesting that the lady had him for 3 weeks and yet he was focused on me not her.
I'm seeing some things I don't fully understand here. I expected all Borders to be over the top, I expected Peyton to be past over the top. I'm not seeing either.
He's probably had some harsh correction is his life. I noticed when I leaned down to pet him, his ears would go back and he went slightly cowd. It's not too bad but it was there. That's just a trust thing I think and he would come out of that in time.
Yes, he's on the top of the list. I have a few more to look at early next week, then I will take Peyton back out to visit the BC. If all goes as well, then he'll come home with me for a week trail. I want to confirm what I think we're seeing here. I might even take Peyton back out there tomorrow. I want to see this dog again soon in any case. More videos and some real photos next time.
He desperately needs a bath and his nails cut and get on some decent food. She said he only eats 1.5 cups a day. That's not enough for a dog his size, I'll fix that too and especially because he is already thin even for a BC.
I thought that was unusual given their faces were so close together when I saw it through the lens. It was all about me for a change and it was that way often and even when we left, they both were staring right at me, not at each other. It was almost like Peyton was asking if he could come home and the BC wanted to come too. I may be reading waaay more into this than what's there, but the focus was on me by both and it was more often that not.
For whatever the reason that BC seemed to connect with me. It took a little while to train Peyton to look into my eyes and hold a stare (a week), this BC did it naturally for some reason. I only gave him one small bite of Hotdog the whole time I was there and seemingly became his best friend. It was also interesting that the lady had him for 3 weeks and yet he was focused on me not her.
I'm seeing some things I don't fully understand here. I expected all Borders to be over the top, I expected Peyton to be past over the top. I'm not seeing either.
He's probably had some harsh correction is his life. I noticed when I leaned down to pet him, his ears would go back and he went slightly cowd. It's not too bad but it was there. That's just a trust thing I think and he would come out of that in time.
Yes, he's on the top of the list. I have a few more to look at early next week, then I will take Peyton back out to visit the BC. If all goes as well, then he'll come home with me for a week trail. I want to confirm what I think we're seeing here. I might even take Peyton back out there tomorrow. I want to see this dog again soon in any case. More videos and some real photos next time.
He desperately needs a bath and his nails cut and get on some decent food. She said he only eats 1.5 cups a day. That's not enough for a dog his size, I'll fix that too and especially because he is already thin even for a BC.
I'm still waiting to see Candy. I spoke with the head of the rescue and Candy is still available but the foster Mom was not this weekend.
I think I'll go see this BC again today. As with all dogs, I have to make at least 2 trips to confirm what I think I saw. Peyton got two trips, blackey got two trips, this BC deserves another trip as well.
Rescuing is like buying a used car. You're buying someone's problems. If I can find a dog with the fewest of these problems it should make my job easier. Peyton had a lot of problems and was 6 months old. This dog seems to have less problems from the start and while I wouldn't take a million for Peyton or regret doing it, I'm not willing to got through that again. This dog gives me a head start. All this dog needs is the basics and he'll be just fine.
When I went looking for a dog this time, Peyton was the benchmark. I wanted a dog equal to or greater than Peyton in intelligence and sociability and focus. This BC has all those traits and Candy will have to be equal to or greater than the BC. The BC has that X factor of calming Peyton. That's a pretty tall order for Candy, but we'll see.
I probably spend way too much time in picking a dog and probably more time than many. I committed to Peyton and will commit to the next dog and because of that, I don't take that commitment lightly. I have to think with my brain not my heart here or Sid would be sitting in my lap as I type this.
In Sid's defense, he was just adopted a few days prior to me seeing him. Then when I viewed him he was in a house with many loud barking dogs, add to this, he was just nurtured the day before. That's a lot of culture shock and probably not a fair assessment. He would definitely look you right in the eyes but I could tell he wasn't sure what was going on. One thing the lady who had Sid said, is that Sids favorite place was out on the patio away from other dogs where it was quiet. I could see that, this lady had some very loud dogs. I wanted some peace and quiet myself.
Sids owner said she trusted me, if I wanted to take Sid for overnight she was fine with that. I'm not convinced I gave Sid a fair shot and he deserves another look I think as well. Sid was a quiet calm dog and Peyton that day was wound up because of all the barking and all the other dogs running in and out of the house. Sid was the calm in the storm and yet wasn't hiding or cowd. He wanted to engage, just wasn't so sure. He's just a baby aussie after all.
This thread has turned into Peyton Place - The Blog.
I think I'll go see this BC again today. As with all dogs, I have to make at least 2 trips to confirm what I think I saw. Peyton got two trips, blackey got two trips, this BC deserves another trip as well.
Rescuing is like buying a used car. You're buying someone's problems. If I can find a dog with the fewest of these problems it should make my job easier. Peyton had a lot of problems and was 6 months old. This dog seems to have less problems from the start and while I wouldn't take a million for Peyton or regret doing it, I'm not willing to got through that again. This dog gives me a head start. All this dog needs is the basics and he'll be just fine.
When I went looking for a dog this time, Peyton was the benchmark. I wanted a dog equal to or greater than Peyton in intelligence and sociability and focus. This BC has all those traits and Candy will have to be equal to or greater than the BC. The BC has that X factor of calming Peyton. That's a pretty tall order for Candy, but we'll see.
I probably spend way too much time in picking a dog and probably more time than many. I committed to Peyton and will commit to the next dog and because of that, I don't take that commitment lightly. I have to think with my brain not my heart here or Sid would be sitting in my lap as I type this.
In Sid's defense, he was just adopted a few days prior to me seeing him. Then when I viewed him he was in a house with many loud barking dogs, add to this, he was just nurtured the day before. That's a lot of culture shock and probably not a fair assessment. He would definitely look you right in the eyes but I could tell he wasn't sure what was going on. One thing the lady who had Sid said, is that Sids favorite place was out on the patio away from other dogs where it was quiet. I could see that, this lady had some very loud dogs. I wanted some peace and quiet myself.
Sids owner said she trusted me, if I wanted to take Sid for overnight she was fine with that. I'm not convinced I gave Sid a fair shot and he deserves another look I think as well. Sid was a quiet calm dog and Peyton that day was wound up because of all the barking and all the other dogs running in and out of the house. Sid was the calm in the storm and yet wasn't hiding or cowd. He wanted to engage, just wasn't so sure. He's just a baby aussie after all.
This thread has turned into Peyton Place - The Blog.
LOL Peyton Place,,tooo true..
I Definately think you are doing the right thing by assessing and reassessing, and your right, dogs can be different in different environments. I thought Sid was a cutie, but again, I'm not sure from your description, that he'd be a good candidate for Peyton, for you YES, but for peyton, not sure.
I like that these dogs can go to you on a trial basis as well, it will end up giving you their true nature once they get into YOUR environment as well as Peytons..)
Let us know how the visit with Candy goes)
I Definately think you are doing the right thing by assessing and reassessing, and your right, dogs can be different in different environments. I thought Sid was a cutie, but again, I'm not sure from your description, that he'd be a good candidate for Peyton, for you YES, but for peyton, not sure.
I like that these dogs can go to you on a trial basis as well, it will end up giving you their true nature once they get into YOUR environment as well as Peytons..
)Let us know how the visit with Candy goes
)Thanks for staying with me on this.
Another challenge is it's been raining here for 40 days and 40 nights. I'm not sure if I should get a Dog or Dolphin. All the parks are muddy and most of them are ponds.
You're right on Sid, Peyton would be good for Sid because she's confident and friendly and would bring him out of his shell but at the same time might be too overbearing having to have her way all the time. Unless either he stood up for himself or somehow Peyton had a change of heart, he would always be Peytons door matt. I felt bad for the Mal when Peyton was like that and it's not something I want to witness for the next 10 years...I hear ya'. Sid is risky for this reason only.
I also thought about this. I have a Female/Aussie, maybe a Male/BC would add some contrast. I think the BC is a mans dog, Candy is a girls dog. I'm a guy. Also I have an Aussie, maybe something new?
One thing is for sure, nobody will be sticking their hand in my car to pet that BC. The size of his head, those yellow eyes and his focus will back people up. I don't think he would hurt an earthworm unless pushed, but people wouldn't know that just by looking. He has the "devil in in eyes" remember? LOL
Another challenge is it's been raining here for 40 days and 40 nights. I'm not sure if I should get a Dog or Dolphin. All the parks are muddy and most of them are ponds.
You're right on Sid, Peyton would be good for Sid because she's confident and friendly and would bring him out of his shell but at the same time might be too overbearing having to have her way all the time. Unless either he stood up for himself or somehow Peyton had a change of heart, he would always be Peytons door matt. I felt bad for the Mal when Peyton was like that and it's not something I want to witness for the next 10 years...I hear ya'. Sid is risky for this reason only.
I also thought about this. I have a Female/Aussie, maybe a Male/BC would add some contrast. I think the BC is a mans dog, Candy is a girls dog. I'm a guy. Also I have an Aussie, maybe something new?
One thing is for sure, nobody will be sticking their hand in my car to pet that BC. The size of his head, those yellow eyes and his focus will back people up. I don't think he would hurt an earthworm unless pushed, but people wouldn't know that just by looking. He has the "devil in in eyes" remember? LOL
OK, Sid found a home. Not too surprising.
Called on the BC. The man told me he took him out and let him run this morning then tried to get him on the leash, the BC dodged the leash then ran to his kennel as if to say, I don't need no stinking leash. There was another dog in the BC's kennel and the BC was raising hell at the other dog as the BC was trying to get into his kennel. This BC is very smart I'm tellin' ya. He cocks that head, peeks around trees. It wouldn't surprise me if he was even self aware.
Here's the response from Candy's foster:
Sorry it has taken me so long to answer your email, I have been out of town. Great story on your dog, wish I could do as good with Candy.
She is about 2 and 1/2 years old, very shy. When I first brought her home she would hide from everyone except me, now she will come out when people come but doesn't come to close to them. What helped me with her was I brought my granddaughters corgie over for a playmate. They do excellent together.
Candy is a very good, gentle dog, get along with the outside cat and horse. I think she was abused before I brought her home with me.
If you would like to meet her I can bring her to the shelter on Saturday.
Called on the BC. The man told me he took him out and let him run this morning then tried to get him on the leash, the BC dodged the leash then ran to his kennel as if to say, I don't need no stinking leash. There was another dog in the BC's kennel and the BC was raising hell at the other dog as the BC was trying to get into his kennel. This BC is very smart I'm tellin' ya. He cocks that head, peeks around trees. It wouldn't surprise me if he was even self aware.
Here's the response from Candy's foster:
Sorry it has taken me so long to answer your email, I have been out of town. Great story on your dog, wish I could do as good with Candy.
She is about 2 and 1/2 years old, very shy. When I first brought her home she would hide from everyone except me, now she will come out when people come but doesn't come to close to them. What helped me with her was I brought my granddaughters corgie over for a playmate. They do excellent together.
Candy is a very good, gentle dog, get along with the outside cat and horse. I think she was abused before I brought her home with me.
If you would like to meet her I can bring her to the shelter on Saturday.
And this just in:
We have a couple of other male Aussies coming in later this week and next. Let me know if you and Peyton would like to meet them first! Hondo is a blue Merle who is 5 but really docile and playful-- his owner moved and neighbor has been caring for hondo until we take him.
OK, Candy won't work and I don't think I want a 5 year old dog. I'm off the see the BC now.
We have a couple of other male Aussies coming in later this week and next. Let me know if you and Peyton would like to meet them first! Hondo is a blue Merle who is 5 but really docile and playful-- his owner moved and neighbor has been caring for hondo until we take him.
OK, Candy won't work and I don't think I want a 5 year old dog. I'm off the see the BC now.
A man came to my door trying to give me his pitbull. He stood outside talking on and on while i watched him and his dog. At one point he leaned his head down to the dog and brought his hand down on the dog's head to pet it. THe problem was in that milisecond i saw the dog flinch..duck his head, and grimace..his eyes shut tight and his tail tucked in. That was how i knew that man hit him.. I would stake good money on it. ONce the hand was soft and not hard the dog of course opened his eyes and was receptive. It made me sick to my stomach.
We have a Dog Houston. The BC is home with me, I mean at the Groomers getting a bath, ears, nails and teeth brushed.
ok, I walked in all analytical thinking I might not get this dog. The dog melted me. I thought I would do a video and ask advice, we don't need any more video. After about and hour with the dog. I said to my myself. "I would be a fool not to take this dog". The last time I said that Peyton was the result and the BC is now mine.
The meeting with Peyton went like this:
Heeeey, what's up?
Hey there, not much how about you?
Just chillin dude, nothin' new.
That was about it. Nothing unusual about the re-meeting. The house was filled with Cats, Peyton was more focused on them than the Border and the BC wanted to be with the people. Uneventful, just like in the video, we went out and played ball some, same thing, and same amount of aggression. Some barky stuff, but one would back-off.
I took them both for a walk at the end the BC was better on a leash than Peyton was. One arm was hurting when I came back and you can guess which dog caused it. but it wasn't the BC.
I put some food down and there was some food aggression. I'm not sure who started what but there was some growling and we had to step in just in case. Other than that, the BC rode in the front seat and Peyton in the back and we finally made it back to the city. He is not so sure about getting in the car, it took a while both times, hotdog bites did the trick but he's not a car lovin dog right now.
He has not been socialized well to city sights and sounds. No problem we can work through it.
The first thing we did is go to the dog park. I thought I should maybe burn off some energy before bringing them into the house. That went just as well as the last time they played ball no better no worse.
Next stop was the Petsmart test. He did very well, but you could tell he was out of his element. He saw some other dogs, acted curious but had some self control. He's better at PSmart than Peyton is.
We went into the PS grooming area and he did fine there too. Cautious and unsure, quiet but not really afraid. The lady that is grooming him said she had borders would do him personally and take it very very slow because he was a rescue. That was reassuring and while he went off to her, he looked back at me like, is it ok to go? I gave him some hot dog bites and he went along fine.
Now the fun begins, getting him in the house and his first night.
Here he is... and he needs a name.
^^^^^^^^ I NEED A NAME ^^^^^^^^^^^
ok, I walked in all analytical thinking I might not get this dog. The dog melted me. I thought I would do a video and ask advice, we don't need any more video. After about and hour with the dog. I said to my myself. "I would be a fool not to take this dog". The last time I said that Peyton was the result and the BC is now mine.
The meeting with Peyton went like this:
Heeeey, what's up?
Hey there, not much how about you?
Just chillin dude, nothin' new.
That was about it. Nothing unusual about the re-meeting. The house was filled with Cats, Peyton was more focused on them than the Border and the BC wanted to be with the people. Uneventful, just like in the video, we went out and played ball some, same thing, and same amount of aggression. Some barky stuff, but one would back-off.
I took them both for a walk at the end the BC was better on a leash than Peyton was. One arm was hurting when I came back and you can guess which dog caused it. but it wasn't the BC.
I put some food down and there was some food aggression. I'm not sure who started what but there was some growling and we had to step in just in case. Other than that, the BC rode in the front seat and Peyton in the back and we finally made it back to the city. He is not so sure about getting in the car, it took a while both times, hotdog bites did the trick but he's not a car lovin dog right now.
He has not been socialized well to city sights and sounds. No problem we can work through it.
The first thing we did is go to the dog park. I thought I should maybe burn off some energy before bringing them into the house. That went just as well as the last time they played ball no better no worse.
Next stop was the Petsmart test. He did very well, but you could tell he was out of his element. He saw some other dogs, acted curious but had some self control. He's better at PSmart than Peyton is.
We went into the PS grooming area and he did fine there too. Cautious and unsure, quiet but not really afraid. The lady that is grooming him said she had borders would do him personally and take it very very slow because he was a rescue. That was reassuring and while he went off to her, he looked back at me like, is it ok to go? I gave him some hot dog bites and he went along fine.
Now the fun begins, getting him in the house and his first night.
Here he is... and he needs a name.
^^^^^^^^ I NEED A NAME ^^^^^^^^^^^
I think he is beautiful--and those eyes are not devil eyes! Congrats on your new boy--now for a name.....
hmmm--looking at Gaelic names ( the red color made me go there)
Brody means brother
Breckin means Freckled
Caley--strong warrior
Cargan--little rock
Cassidy--clever
Connor--much wanted
Derry--redhead
want more?:lol-sign:
hmmm--looking at Gaelic names ( the red color made me go there)
Brody means brother
Breckin means Freckled
Caley--strong warrior
Cargan--little rock
Cassidy--clever
Connor--much wanted
Derry--redhead
want more?:lol-sign:
he is a really handsome boy, now that he's had a bath even MORE handsome!!
I like Brody off of Baxter's list above,,he just looks like a "brody" to me))
It sounds like even to he hasn't been exposed to all this stuff,,he did just fine,
Let us know how it goes!~ Congrats on the new addition, I really hope this works out for both you and Peyton,,he's a beauty)
I like Brody off of Baxter's list above,,he just looks like a "brody" to me
))It sounds like even to he hasn't been exposed to all this stuff,,he did just fine,
Let us know how it goes!~ Congrats on the new addition, I really hope this works out for both you and Peyton,,he's a beauty
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