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She could be a Possum/Moose cross and I wouldn't love her any less.
If it will ever stop raining here today, I may go back and see "blacky". But this time, take treats and a clicker get one on one with her and see how fast she learns. If I do, I'll take some stills pics.
The shelter who has her is starting CGC classes soon. Going to look at that for Peyton but I doubt she will pass, for the very reason we have discussed, Peyton LOVES to play and is highly dog reactive.
It's a double edged sword. I want her to be dog friendly and be who she is, be happy and have fun, but at the same time have more self control when meeting new dogs. She's much better today than a year ago, but still looses her mind when she sees a dog. Of all the things I have corrected this is the one I haven't been able to overcome. I have had her with two trainers and they could not correct it either. This is where she will fail at CGC most likely.
If it will ever stop raining here today, I may go back and see "blacky". But this time, take treats and a clicker get one on one with her and see how fast she learns. If I do, I'll take some stills pics.
The shelter who has her is starting CGC classes soon. Going to look at that for Peyton but I doubt she will pass, for the very reason we have discussed, Peyton LOVES to play and is highly dog reactive.
It's a double edged sword. I want her to be dog friendly and be who she is, be happy and have fun, but at the same time have more self control when meeting new dogs. She's much better today than a year ago, but still looses her mind when she sees a dog. Of all the things I have corrected this is the one I haven't been able to overcome. I have had her with two trainers and they could not correct it either. This is where she will fail at CGC most likely.
If I do, I have to come up with another name than Blacky. 
Just got off the phone about Sid. I emailed Peytons story to her and the lady called rather than email me. This woman not only wants me to see Sidney, she asked if I would consider fostering other Aussies.
She a good contact to know, she said something about becoming the official Aussie rescue person for the State of Texas.
She owns 3 aussies, plus has two for me to look at and has more coming very soon. I can see Sid tomorrow morning, Sid is at the Vet right now getting "fixed". Ugh...
Just got off the phone about Sid. I emailed Peytons story to her and the lady called rather than email me. This woman not only wants me to see Sidney, she asked if I would consider fostering other Aussies.
She a good contact to know, she said something about becoming the official Aussie rescue person for the State of Texas.
She owns 3 aussies, plus has two for me to look at and has more coming very soon. I can see Sid tomorrow morning, Sid is at the Vet right now getting "fixed". Ugh...
I'm thinking easy too. I wanted to get Peyton her CGC before I got another dog so this is still a bit early. I still have work to do there and honestly, I'm not ready to take on a major project dog on top of it. I know I'll have to do some work for sure and looking forward to the training, but I don't want to start from scratch like I did with Peyton, unless the dog is a absolute Rockstar.
The good news is, Aussies and Borders are popular in Texas, so with a little patience I can find the dog Peyton and I want.
The good news is, Aussies and Borders are popular in Texas, so with a little patience I can find the dog Peyton and I want.
Sometimes it is easier to train two...one knows that they are being the "good" dog and they really put it on. The other learns from the one because they want that kind of attention. I worked Pepper and Victor a great deal this way. Even now i will have one sit about 20 feet apart while I work the other. THan have that one sit while i have the first dog go through the routine...back and forth like that.
I still have a good feeling about "black dog". There was a lot of postive stuff in that video and that is a dog that has been waiting I think you said for a quite a while. SO i am secretly keeping my fingers crossed. I think you ought to visit again without Payton.
I still have a good feeling about "black dog". There was a lot of postive stuff in that video and that is a dog that has been waiting I think you said for a quite a while. SO i am secretly keeping my fingers crossed. I think you ought to visit again without Payton.
You have a good point. Peyton is all about Peyton, she is a dominant female and needs to be around a more submissive dog I think. It could be too, I have not done a great job of being the alpha myself. She always been the only dog and accustomed to getting her way within reason. When I have two dogs, I can't let that get out of control and if anything I should exert my authority over peyton and the new dog to a greater degree.
Self control is not her strong suit. It's better now, but not great and sometimes not at all. 99% of this is dog/people reactiveness. She will sit when meeting a stranger, but after a few moments becomes over zealous to play with the stranger. She get's so over excited, she "can't" sit down with that butt wagging. I can see her trying but in the end she looses control for the sake of play.
Dogs on the other hand, she just runs flat out. She sees one, will RUN to it regardless of my command, she can never be off leash without a fence and greeting all dogs like this can and has started fights. Self control is Peytons weakest link of all and other dogs are the weakest of her weakest links. The play drive in her is very very strong.
A trainer was suggested to me and she worked at Petsmart. I signed up for her basic obedience class even though I had already taught Peyton all the commands. My thinking was trying to get some help in dog reactiveness. She didn't have an answer either.
Here is a video I did last year of her in class. If I didn't have my foot on the leash, well, you know what would have happened. We haven't made much progress since.
YouTube - Peyton in Class
Self control is not her strong suit. It's better now, but not great and sometimes not at all. 99% of this is dog/people reactiveness. She will sit when meeting a stranger, but after a few moments becomes over zealous to play with the stranger. She get's so over excited, she "can't" sit down with that butt wagging. I can see her trying but in the end she looses control for the sake of play.
Dogs on the other hand, she just runs flat out. She sees one, will RUN to it regardless of my command, she can never be off leash without a fence and greeting all dogs like this can and has started fights. Self control is Peytons weakest link of all and other dogs are the weakest of her weakest links. The play drive in her is very very strong.
A trainer was suggested to me and she worked at Petsmart. I signed up for her basic obedience class even though I had already taught Peyton all the commands. My thinking was trying to get some help in dog reactiveness. She didn't have an answer either.
Here is a video I did last year of her in class. If I didn't have my foot on the leash, well, you know what would have happened. We haven't made much progress since.
YouTube - Peyton in Class
If there are no dogs or no people, this is what I get. This was actually days 14-22 days after I got this wild child and she's as better than this today if the situation does not have dogs.
YouTube - Peyton Day 22
YouTube - Peyton at Day 14
This is how she greets most people unless they get her wound up.
YouTube - Peyton Progress
YouTube - Peyton Day 22
YouTube - Peyton at Day 14
This is how she greets most people unless they get her wound up.
YouTube - Peyton Progress
I try to either not respond (be a tree) or either treat to distract her. The treat works for a second then it's back to her old self. I'm trying to spare the rod if I can.
I took her to another trainer, they put a martingale on her and tried to correct her. I didn't stay there long. Being snapped into submission is not my style and I felt guilty putting her though it. I didn't go back. I would rather deal with it than hurt her. I'm trying to find a reasonable compromise without being too harsh. I make excuses that it's her age, but at 18 months now, she should have made more progress I think. My fault for not knowing how.
Peyton knows leave it and does it very well. If I tell her to leave a squirrel she does a pretty good job now. I couldn't say that the first month I had her though. Leave it, works for squirrels and cats but not and never with dogs.
I took her to another trainer, they put a martingale on her and tried to correct her. I didn't stay there long. Being snapped into submission is not my style and I felt guilty putting her though it. I didn't go back. I would rather deal with it than hurt her. I'm trying to find a reasonable compromise without being too harsh. I make excuses that it's her age, but at 18 months now, she should have made more progress I think. My fault for not knowing how.
Peyton knows leave it and does it very well. If I tell her to leave a squirrel she does a pretty good job now. I couldn't say that the first month I had her though. Leave it, works for squirrels and cats but not and never with dogs.
Yeah smkie, I just couldn't do it in the first place. I do snap that padded flat collar sometimes if she dragging me after a dog, but she doesn't seem to get my intensity.
Peyton is pretty solid on many commands even the food ones. If I give her a new soup bone and say drop it, she drops it without hesitation. Sit, down, wait, heal, look and all the rest she's just as solid. It's the dog thing she fails on and her #1 reason she can't pass CGC. More importantly than that, she could bolt out and get hit by a car.
I've also tried keeping her further away from new dogs and treating her for good behavior as we move closer. She loves the treats and still wants to run to the dogs. If she sees a dog a mile away, it's party ON!
She wasn't socialized at all as you know when I first got her. Thinking that dogs socialization was needed to help with her dog reaction problem I took her to the dog park everyday for a month. It didn't get any better and if anything, only intensified her play drive.
I still take her to the DP often but not everyday. She can run and play at the dog park all day and when we come home, she STILL wants to run to other dogs.
I know I need to fix this, I just don't know how in the most humane way possible. Nothing I have tried has worked so far...dogs are a drug to Peyton, she needs rehab
The only thing I haven't tried is a permanent play buddy. That's one reason I'm looking for another dog.
Peyton is pretty solid on many commands even the food ones. If I give her a new soup bone and say drop it, she drops it without hesitation. Sit, down, wait, heal, look and all the rest she's just as solid. It's the dog thing she fails on and her #1 reason she can't pass CGC. More importantly than that, she could bolt out and get hit by a car.
I've also tried keeping her further away from new dogs and treating her for good behavior as we move closer. She loves the treats and still wants to run to the dogs. If she sees a dog a mile away, it's party ON!
She wasn't socialized at all as you know when I first got her. Thinking that dogs socialization was needed to help with her dog reaction problem I took her to the dog park everyday for a month. It didn't get any better and if anything, only intensified her play drive.
I still take her to the DP often but not everyday. She can run and play at the dog park all day and when we come home, she STILL wants to run to other dogs.
I know I need to fix this, I just don't know how in the most humane way possible. Nothing I have tried has worked so far...dogs are a drug to Peyton, she needs rehab
The only thing I haven't tried is a permanent play buddy. That's one reason I'm looking for another dog.
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I know I need to fix this, I just don't know how in the most humane way possible. Nothing I have tried has worked so far...dogs are a drug to Peyton, she needs rehab
Peyton is 18 months and a fireball.
We met Sid, very sweet, shy, reserved dog. Wasn't any issues with the two, just not an instant playmate. Sid was young, a year is my guess. He'll come out of his shell but will take some time. Wanted to be social and would follow Peyton around, when Peyton turned and faced him, he would back off. He's very calm and no signs of aggression at all. In peytons case, it was taming the wild, in Sids case, it would be wilding the tame.
Peyton could help him with that and gain more confidence, it's in him just not developed yet. He could move in and I wouldn't even know he was here. The person he trusted the most would have a friend for life. He's a very sensitive dog.
We met Sid, very sweet, shy, reserved dog. Wasn't any issues with the two, just not an instant playmate. Sid was young, a year is my guess. He'll come out of his shell but will take some time. Wanted to be social and would follow Peyton around, when Peyton turned and faced him, he would back off. He's very calm and no signs of aggression at all. In peytons case, it was taming the wild, in Sids case, it would be wilding the tame.
Peyton could help him with that and gain more confidence, it's in him just not developed yet. He could move in and I wouldn't even know he was here. The person he trusted the most would have a friend for life. He's a very sensitive dog.