Comment on my video please.

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  1. JoeLacy

    JoeLacy New Member

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    As many of you know, I'm considering a new dog for Peyton and I. Here's a video I shot today of a "possible" dog. Peyton and this dog met for 5 mins each with both on leash and then we let them go, that's where the video starts. They played about 15 mins without any incidents and an excerpt of that meeting is here.

    YouTube - Peyton and New Friend

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  2. Lolas Dad

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    They seemed to get along. Did you try having the other dog sit, leave it and wait?
     
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    Looks like a good start , but new dog seems intimidated by Peyton .
     
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    The interaction seemed good in general. They didn't interact as much as I expected but when they did, it seemed reciprocal. I liked that the potential new dog's tail was up and wagging. One question though: Is Peyton's tail typically down like that?
     
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    It did look like the new dog was a little intimidated, but honestly I think that's to be expected. I think the interaction between the two looked pretty good, and the new dog's tail was up and wagging the entire time. As for when you were playing fetch, my girls will do the same thing. Both chase the ball and the older dog will bark at the younger one when they reach it to make it clear that she is going to pick it up. On the way back the younger one almost always steals it from her for the actual return, but so long as both are praised they're both happy.
     
  6. JoeLacy

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    The other dog had no training at all, wouldn't do any basic commands, wasn't totally out of control on a leash and those things I can teach in short order.

    I thought the energy/submission level was "about" right for Peyton as she can be and is dominant. I'm not so sure it's the right dog for me. I couldn't get the new dog to focus on any one thing, she was all over the place mentally and didn't seem driven at all. I couldn't get a good read on how smart she was, and intelligence and focus, then sociability are my top 3 priorities in a new dog for us.

    Sweet dog, the first thing she did when the handler got her out of the kennel was roll over for belly rubs and kicking her feet in play. She mouthed a little but I could tell someone must have worked on that but didn't complete the job. No biggy there either. She made eye contact well, did not cowl, she had not been abused from what I could tell and generally loved and was interested in meeting people.

    They said the dog was 6 months to 2 years old. I estimate a year tops, her adult teeth are in but not fully developed. They said she was a Border and I'm not 100% convinced of that one either.

    Bottom line: Compatible with Peyton but no X factor for me. Better than the average Chevy I think but not a Ferrari like Peyton.
     
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    smkie pointer/labrador/terrier Staff Member

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    HE came back after the intimidation tho which is Imo a fantastic sign. THey look good together.
     
  8. JoeLacy

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    That was my sense too smkie. The new dog was going along with the program pretty well. Peyton is not aggressive but she is "in their face" at first, that puts a lot of dogs off. I didn't think either of the dogs felt really threatened, but more sorting out " Who is this other dog". I think once the new dog knew it was just play for Peyton, the new dog wasn't "as" intimidated.

    Later, the new dog was laying on it's back while Peyton chewed on and wrestled with her. The new dog got up and Peyton took off, and the new dog chased Peyton for more play. They drank out of the same water bowl at the same time which is another good sign of course. This is just like how the Mal and Peyton played. Dogs seem to know...
     
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    This is the same thing I was thinking.
     
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    smkie pointer/labrador/terrier Staff Member

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    THE fact that the dog didn't push about the ball is pretty good. Tail up and wagging, no hackle rising at all, follows Peyton standing beside..not blocking or pushing Peyton out of the way. All good signs. I watched it twice and felt they might be a good match.

    Pepper would have looked at the ball..and then at the fence to see which board might have a escape to it. :rofl1: IF you gave Victor a command he would look at you and say "your not the mama"...which is something we are working on. THe fact that it this dog didn't respond to commands doesnt' necessarily mean the dog doens't know some.
     
  11. JoeLacy

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    The lady that was out with us said, if someone didn't know, they would think the dogs had lived together for years. She also said she rarely sees two dogs get along better the first time out. Not sure if that was a sales pitch or not.

    She also said the dog had been there for a "while". I asked why, and she said, people don't want black dogs for some reason and everyone wants a Yorkie. I thought that was an odd generalization but she seemed to believe it.

    The dog just didn't have that WOW factor to me and it wasn't because she was black.
     
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    smkie pointer/labrador/terrier Staff Member

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    Black dogs are usually the last to be adopted that is pretty much a well known fact. Also I was suprised they got along as well as they did too...I don't think it was a pitch.

    My friend Logan who donates his saturdays to a shelter says his next dog will black for exactly this reason.
     
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    She seemed like a great dog to me, but then again I don't know what you're looking for.

    I would be soooooo happy if Abby would act like that when she met a new dog. :)
     
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    Peyton get's along with a lot of dogs this well. It just has to be the right dog. Peyton is a dog park kind of gal, she'll usually find one or two and they play like this all day, that wasn't unusual to see for me.

    What was unusual was finding a dog the same size as Peyton that would play. She normally plays with much larger dogs at the dog park, because they don't seem as intimated. Size doesn't' matter to Peyton and shy around other dogs is not a word I would use to describe her. She get's right in there with the biggest of them.

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    WHat a great pic!!!!!
     
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    Here are some more from the DP. She likes to run with the big dogs because they are the only ones that will play with her. Her name should be Play-ton. Never once I have seen her aggressive to a dog without the other dog starting it. She's a happy dog and just wants to run and play.

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    Peyton in the last pic has that look I hope he is not telling her about the secret I just told him :rofl1:

    As for the black dog thing the woman that told you that is 100% correct. No one seems to want a black dog. Personally for me I would do as your doing and go by personality and training capability no matter what color the dog is.

    Heck I just adopted a black kitten and I know there are people that do not like black cats but I adopted him because he was not afraid of Lola and Lola seemed to really like him when she saw him she wanted to play right away. I've let her play with him since I have had him the past few days but not out of my site and not without me being right there until the kitten gets bigger. He's a fearless kitten and will approach Lola, bat her paw with his and then jump back and then do it a few more times.
     
  18. JoeLacy

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    There is a caption for that pic I think, but not sure what it is. :)

    My point is, Peyton is a very social dog, she get's along fine with many dogs and some better than others and some not at all. Some dogs don't like her, but she likes all dogs. I'm trying to find her a play buddy so she can have that playtime 24/7.

    At the same time, I want a dog similar to Peyton to train. In that video I think you can see Peytons bright eyes, focus and enthusiasm for all things in life. It's a hard thing to try an quantify or even explain, but I call it "sparks behind the eyes".

    The dog can be green for all care. Well, ok maybe not green but you get the idea. It never occurred to me that black dogs are not popular but then some people never fail to disappoint me as to why they pick their pets.

    A dog is not a commodity to me, but a 10+ year commitment. I need to be as enthusiastic as Peyton about bringing another dog in the home. Harsh and too selective maybe, but the dog I do choose will have a very good life until death do us part. I've had more wives than dogs in the last 30 years, maybe I should be more selective on those too.

    I'm going to start looking at rescues next. I have left my name and number with several shelters should they get a new Border or Aussie. Quirky/hyper dogs are just more fun.
     
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    I thought the they got along well, but it's definately up to YOU in the long run since your the one who's going to be doing the training , not Peyton:))..It would probably be real easy to pick ANYTHING for Peyton who gets along with everybody LOL

    I didn't see border in the dog,,the first thing that came to my mind was flat coated retriever..

    And I so agree about black dogs/black cats...probably why I have 5 black cats (all indoors) and all my dogs have alot of black on them :)))

    Good luck in your search,,he/she did seem to be a nice dog, but your the one to make the ultimate decision...Have you checked out the ARPH rescue sites??
     
  20. JoeLacy

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    No ARPH in Texas, I have contacted a few other ones.

    I think border might be a stretch too. It's sometimes hard to tell but not what I think of when I think Border. I thought black Irish setter or something. At times though I did think border. I didn't get any still photos.

    Part of the problem is too many breed variables. Some dogs I think are Borders are Aussie and the other way around. Peyton is either all border, all Aussie or a Border Aussies X or none of the above. Most people think she has a border face and an Aussie body.:dunno:
     

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