but wait! only pit bulls attack!

[Georgygirl]

No, I'm not dense. Apparently you need to chose your wording a little more carefully because you seem to be annoying many other people besides me. So you're against BSL but you think that all pitbull owners need to be put through training because their breed is inherently agressive. What about the owners of those cockers and other breeds that statistically bite more often than pits. What about those owners? Why do they get off the hook? How about we enforce the laws we ALREADY have? let's not target a certain breed but target a certain group of people, like the irresponsible owners of ALL the different dog breeds.

 

[whatszmatter]

Nobody is on your case for being anti BSL, but in your very first post, it was very stand offish towards Elegy asking him what his/her point was?? It wasn't even directed at me and I read it like, that was a little uncalled for.

Since then you've tried to bring this around to everyone trying to bring every other breed down as well, but nobody has ever taken that position. Others are simply trying to point out the original intention of the thread and you keep trying to turn it into something else.

 

[LabBreeder]

This I will dispute. There are a couple of breeds that are notorious for getting old and cranky and mauling the family toddler. To me that is a big problem.

But, according to everyone else on here, every breed has that potential. If you mean a specific breed that actually has those tendencies listed in it's profile, then the owner should be aware of that before they purchase or adopt the breed. If it happens after the fact then it's still the owners fault.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

LabBreeder-

You continuely banter people, you are rude and you are so ruthless in your posts sometimes that you can hurt people's feelings...

What you said to Jess was completely uncalled for and you should apologize to her. I can not believe you would even bring that up, when all Jess was trying to do was show you the points in which the OP tried to make.

I have seen TOO many threads get closed because you can't handle some topics. I stepped in (now, I am very sorry I did) because I thought I could help you calm down before you blew up, but you did anyway. I suggest taking a deep breath and re-read this entire thread before you chose to say anything else. You will find that no one has singled you out, only tried to help you understand where the OP was coming from.

 

[Roxy's CD]

Georgygirl To me the difference between the attacks is very clear:

With labs, goldens, cockers (usually family pets) it's lack of knowledge.

With pitts, (of course owners that WANT a mean dog, like drug dealers, they seem to come up a lot but in my town the two go hand in hand) it's not lack of knowledge but more along the lines of wanting an aggressive animal.

Of course I'm not saying that everyone that owns a pittbull is a drug dealer, but for the ones that aren't, that's what this is about! The responsible owners of pitts get grouped with the irresponsible.

 

[LabBreeder]

No, I'm not dense. Apparently you need to chose your wording a little more carefully because you seem to be annoying many other people besides me. So you're against BSL but you think that all pitbull owners need to be put through training because their breed is inherently agressive. What about the owners of those cockers and other breeds that statistically bite more often than pits. What about those owners? Why do they get off the hook? How about we enforce the laws we ALREADY have? let's not target a certain breed but target a certain group of people, like the irresponsible owners of ALL the different dog breeds.

I didn't say all pitbull owners. I believe I said anyone that wants to get a breed with a bad rap (yes, pits are included) or one that's had a bad history, should be put through training.

If statistics say that another breed is more apt to bite without being properly trained, then people that want to purchase those breeds should also be put through a "how to train dogs" guide and an "understanding your breed" seminar before buying them.
If the laws we already had were enforced I wouldn't be having problems with 2 loose and agressive doxies and a mix breed running around terrorizing neighborhood dogs and kids that ARE following the rules.

 

[pup-man]

WOW!

I leave for an hour and the spot light has moved on to another member. I'll just sit here and enjoy the fireworks.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

WOW!

I leave for an hour and the spot light has moved on to another member. I'll just sit here and enjoy the fireworks.

I've got some popcorn and lemonade Interested?

 

[JennSLK]

You all want to single me out cause I said the owners/breeders were the problem...that it's not right to ban a breed...people should prove they can handle/train them...and why spotlight other breeds that don't have as big a problem or as bad a rep as pits

For starters 99% of the people on this forum think the owners are the problem

Secondly. HOW DARE YOU! You could NOT have said a more rude and insesitive thing towards Jess.

Im with BP in her last post. You need to calm down!

 

[LabBreeder]

Nobody is on your case for being anti BSL, but in your very first post, it was very stand offish towards Elegy asking him what his/her point was?? It wasn't even directed at me and I read it like, that was a little uncalled for.

Since then you've tried to bring this around to everyone trying to bring every other breed down as well, but nobody has ever taken that position. Others are simply trying to point out the original intention of the thread and you keep trying to turn it into something else.

I explained my first post already. All I saw were a bunch of sites about other breeds biting and a sarcastic title. There was no question, statement or anything. It could very well have been another attempt at starting an argument so I wanted to know what the point was before anything else.

Well, when people keep posting about other breeds doing the same thing, but not saying what could be done other than, make sure all bites get as much exposure as a pit...it seems bashy.
I mean, does everyone in here agree that pits shouldn't be banned? That no breed should be banned? That owners and breeders should take responsiblity for their dogs and train them (regardless of their breed)?

 

[Roxy's CD]

I could get fired up again about the comments you made to me... But I know they're not true

LabBreeder, I agree unfortuantely that pitts do attract a "crowd". A "crowd" that has doomed the breed.

Definitely by having to be certified to own certain breeds it would scare off most if not ALL of the people who would not be dedicated to proper training. I would have no problem with having to get certified to own a specific breed if it was what I truly thought would be a great addition to my family. Also, if it would help the breed generally.

 

[corsomom]

The op was trying to make a point, and I think a very good one. No one is trying to drag other breeds down, Labbreeder, I dont know why you dont get that. and I do think that was a completely uncalled for remark to Jess.

 

[LabBreeder]

LabBreeder-

You continuely banter people, you are rude and you are so ruthless in your posts sometimes that you can hurt people's feelings...

What you said to Jess was completely uncalled for and you should apologize to her. I can not believe you would even bring that up, when all Jess was trying to do was show you the points in which the OP tried to make.

I have seen TOO many threads get closed because you can't handle some topics. I stepped in (now, I am very sorry I did) because I thought I could help you calm down before you blew up, but you did anyway. I suggest taking a deep breath and re-read this entire thread before you chose to say anything else. You will find that no one has singled you out, only tried to help you understand where the OP was coming from.

Buddy, when you are the only one having something said to you...before anything happened btw...it escalates. Nothing was wrong. I was having fun with this thread. No one was being bashed or turning against anyone or anything else. If it hadn't been for your post (unfortunately) I would have read through the pages since my last post, said something to Roxy about her being understandably angry at someone jumping her personally, and that would have been it.

 

[whatszmatter]

ok,, i'm going to take one last bang against the wall here,

I am NOT BASHING other breeds to bring it to the same level as a pit bull. The ORIGINAL intent was to show that all other breeds in the hands of irresponsible owners are just as capable of causing harm to others. That was the point, is the point, and will always be the point.

This whole thread has never had anything to do with bashing other breeds.

 

[Georgygirl]

And whose going to enfoce these new laws for bad rap breeds? The same people that don't enforce the laws we already have? In theory its a good idea labreeder and personally I think ALL new dog owners should have to take a little seminar or class but in reality it isn't practical. I'm going to go cool off, I think your heart is in the right place labreeder and I'm sorry for getting so upset with you. I get very passionate about this subect and I need to realize that everyone has a right to their own opinion.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

I think everyone heart is in the right place, but no one is seeing at the same level.
Mods...?

~Tucker

 

[LabBreeder]

Jess - I do agree that I need to apologize. It was a very low blow and was said out of anger. Not necessarily anger towards you either. You are a good person and I shouldn't have brought Charlie into this. So, I do sincerely apologize for that remark.


*To everyone else - please don't make snide remarks or rude replies. This apology is in here and for Jess to see and respond to because it's where it happened. I would have PM'd but that would have been to personal and this needs to be a public apology to Jess.*

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Buddy, when you are the only one having something said to you...before anything happened btw...it escalates. Nothing was wrong. I was having fun with this thread. No one was being bashed or turning against anyone or anything else. If it hadn't been for your post (unfortunately) I would have read through the pages since my last post, said something to Roxy about her being understandably angry at someone jumping her personally, and that would have been it.

Unfortunately, that's not true. But what do I know? I've only had threads that have been closed because of you and I was trying to stop that. I apologize for trying to help you. I'll go to my corner now.

Please apologize to Jess. She may or may not accept it but it's worth the effort. I think you may even agree that that post you made was unacceptable.

I'm done with the thread. Thanks again, Elegy for making a great point.

 

[jess2416]

Thank you for the apology...I am done with this thread....

 

[LabBreeder]

ok,, i'm going to take one last bang against the wall here,

I am NOT BASHING other breeds to bring it to the same level as a pit bull. The ORIGINAL intent was to show that all other breeds in the hands of irresponsible owners are just as capable of causing harm to others. That was the point, is the point, and will always be the point.

This whole thread has never had anything to do with bashing other breeds.

lol...sorry, not laughing at you, really...laughing at how this went nuts is all. I never said you were bashing, just bashy...a difference, really. I agree that any breed with an irresponsible owner (or bad breeder) can cause harm. I've got 2 doxies doing the same where I live.

Points have been taken, bad blows have been dealt...can we continue normally?