but wait! only pit bulls attack!

[LabBreeder]

Apparently Jess doesn't get it either. You'd think since you have recently been denied a dog because of your yard (according to them) that you would see other views as well. I don't want any breed being banned. What part of that are you all not getting? I don't want any breed exterminated. I want potential owners to prove they are responsible when purchasing breeds that have gotten a bad rep in the past.

 

[Georgygirl]

Well gee, if you don't want labs to be brought into the spotlight then you better talk to those irresponsile lab owners and fix the problem

Obviously there are cases of labs biting, isn't that a problem? I hate it when people go "well, it isn't my breed getting banned, so to heck with it. Those pitbull owners should get things together". There is a law in an Iowa city that bans breeds over a certain weight. Some of those labs can get pretty big. How would you feel about that? You'd probably be fighting just as hard as the pitty owners to clear your breeds reputation.

 

[Roxy's CD]

LabBreeder - I think the issue is just not about BSL. But also about how pitts are picked out. If a newstation had a choice between a Shitzu biting a small child or a pitt biting a small child we all know that they would choose the pitt.

It's not about bringing other breeds down, and I definitely don't want any other breeds banned, but it's upsetting how other breeds slip through the cracks when it comes to attacks and pitts get the whole bad rap.

Edit: Georgygirl are you serious? A ban for dogs over a certain weight? You can't be serious???

 

[Buddy'sParents]

I don't see why you'd want to tell someone to "stop now" when they are on the side of ANTI-BSL.

I didnt say you weren't on the side of anti-bsl, I was trying to be helpful because I could see that you were getting frustrated and I don't want to see this thread closed because people (in general) sometimes can't stop themselves.

We DO see what you have said.. but it appears you still don't understand why the OP started the thread... he/she was not bashing any other breed.

Seems to be a perfectly legit rant because pit bulls are abused so by media and poor ownership and OP was pointing out that ALL breeds have the potential to bite, that's all....

Sorry I was just trying to help...

 

[LabBreeder]

It's ridiculous how you can gang up on one person cause you refuse to see their point. Go ahead, ban together...I don't care. When pits and other breeds are banned because of dumb owners that can't or won't train them I'm sure you'll be happy. I've more than agreed with everyone on here at in regards to some, or all, of their posts...but you refuse to see what I'm saying.
Yes, all dogs can potentially be agressive...but not all owners/breeders HAVE TO BE STUPID!!! Breed right, train right and socialize.

Yes, pits have a bad rap because they were used for bull fighting, fighting other dogs, drug dealer attack dogs, guard dogs, etc. They have a bad rep as being AGRESSIVE. Hence, my previous post about having owners checked out and trained on training.

 

[whatszmatter]

Melissa_W If Labs were randomly attacking people as much as pits were then they'd be going through BSL...but that's not the case. Anyone that wants a pit should have to prove they can take care of it and train it properly...just as any other dog. However, pits do have a bad rep that's why they are having to deal with BSL.

I guess media propaganda affects people and they don't even know it. Labs do go around biting people as often or MORE so than pit bulls, cocker spaniels have long been on the top of the list for bites to children, golden retrievers are responsible for maiming and injuring kids and adults at a rate much higher than you'd believe, BUT because of pit bulls being singled out most people never even realize this and that is the point of this whole thread.

by the above post and your comment on "if people want to get an aggressive breed", which seems to me your inferring pit bulls, it seems that you're not seeing the point people are trying to make.

 

[jess2416]

Apparently Jess doesn't get it either. You'd think since you have recently been denied a dog because of your yard (according to them) that you would see other views as well

Apparently I do get it, and dont you DARE bring that into this , that has nothing to do with this topic....so why even bring it up...

*clap clap clap*

Amen sister!

Thank you ma'am

 

[LabBreeder]

Well gee, if you don't want labs to be brought into the spotlight then you better talk to those irresponsile lab owners and fix the problem

Obviously there are cases of labs biting, isn't that a problem? I hate it when people go "well, it isn't my breed getting banned, so to heck with it. Those pitbull owners should get things together". There is a law in an Iowa city that bans breeds over a certain weight. Some of those labs can get pretty big. How would you feel about that? You'd probably be fighting just as hard as the pitty owners to clear your breeds reputation.

Are you really as dense as you are letting on?
I never said, "it isn't my breed to heck with it". I have said just the opposite. If you want to nit pick what's been said you better get your $h!t together first!
I have had my labs banned for weight where I was living....AFTER we were there for 6 months! It sucked, we moved, it's done. The owners were stupid and decided to change the lease, end of story. I deal with idiots telling me that a Halti is a muzzle and being scared cause one of our Labs is black and has a leather collar...ooooohh, so scary. Just because people are stupid (or don't understand like you) doesn't mean they are right.

 

[LabBreeder]

Apparently I do get it, and dont you DARE bring that into this, that has nothing to do with this topic....so why even bring it up...

Hey, you wanted to start yelling and trying to make me out to be a bad guy....I'll bring it right back to ya.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Apparently Jess doesn't get it either. You'd think since you have recently been denied a dog because of your yard (according to them) that you would see other views as well.

I can't believe you said that! That was so rude and completely uncalled for.




OMG Jess, I'm soo sorry.

 

[LabBreeder]

I guess media propaganda affects people and they don't even know it. Labs do go around biting people as often or MORE so than pit bulls, cocker spaniels have long been on the top of the list for bites to children, golden retrievers are responsible for maiming and injuring kids and adults at a rate much higher than you'd believe, BUT because of pit bulls being singled out most people never even realize this and that is the point of this whole thread.

by the above post and your comment on "if people want to get an aggressive breed", which seems to me your inferring pit bulls, it seems that you're not seeing the point people are trying to make.

Where did I say "agressive breed" hmmm? Quote that for me.

 

[whatszmatter]

Apparently I do get it, and dont you DARE bring that into this , that has nothing to do with this topic....so why even bring it up...



Thank you ma'am

I agree that has absolutely NOTHING to do with this topic

 

[Roxy's CD]

LabBreeder
I don't think anyone's ganging up on you.

As I just said, I don't think any breed should be banned. Although it does seem that a lot of drug dealers, convicts whatever do flock to the pittbull. But is it really the breeds fault? Of course it isn't and we all know that.

Certify the PEOPLE.

whatszmatter that is very true. People have no idea that when they get a family pet, normal family breeds (goldens, labs, cockers) that they are just as prone to be aggressive, if not trained properly. I don't think any breed is fool proof per say.

If people were just generally educated before they got a dog, I'm sure a lot of "family attacks" would decrease in numbers. People would do whatever they could to ensure their families safety as well as the dogs. BUT, when it comes to a lot of the riff raff that have pitts (like drug dealers) because their aim is to have an agressive dog, education I don't think would do anything. Maybe help them to train a more aggressive dog.

 

[LabBreeder]

You all want to single me out cause I said the owners/breeders were the problem...that it's not right to ban a breed...people should prove they can handle/train them...and why spotlight other breeds that don't have as big a problem or as bad a rep as pits. It seems like even when someone agrees about no BSL that you STILL find a way to attack. Go figure.

 

[whatszmatter]

I don't see why you'd want to tell someone to "stop now" when they are on the side of ANTI-BSL. I am all for having potential dog owners show that they can teach basic obedience (or take a class on how to) before getting any breed. If you want to get a "agressive" breed...or one that has had a bad history with a previous owner/breeder...you should be required to have no history of drug use, assault, violence or previous cruelty charges as well as being able to train a dog to behave properly. It would mean more work getting a dog, but it would be worth it if you really wanted him/her.

*edit - I know others have responded, it seems no one see's I'm frickin agreeing with anti BSL (for pits and any other breed)...geez*

Is that ok?

 

[Roxy's CD]

That was a low blow.... totally uncalled for...

Nevermind that Jess... Everyone says things...

 

[LabBreeder]

LabBreeder
I don't think anyone's ganging up on you.

As I just said, I don't think any breed should be banned. Although it does seem that a lot of drug dealers, convicts whatever do flock to the pittbull. But is it really the breeds fault? Of course it isn't and we all know that.

Certify the PEOPLE.

whatszmatter that is very true. People have no idea that when they get a family pet, normal family breeds (goldens, labs, cockers) that they are just as prone to be aggressive, if not trained properly. I don't think any breed is fool proof per say.

If people were just generally educated before they got a dog, I'm sure a lot of "family attacks" would decrease in numbers. People would do whatever they could to ensure their families safety as well as the dogs. BUT, when it comes to a lot of the riff raff that have pitts (like drug dealers) because their aim is to have an agressive dog, education I don't think would do anything. Maybe help them to train a more aggressive dog.

Why is it that when you say the same thing I say no one has a problem with it?
My problem started with Buddy's Parents telling me to "stop now before I blow a gasket" and I didn't even HAVE a problem then. Since then....well, all of this crap happened.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

Wow....

~Tucker

 

[Roxy's CD]

and why spotlight other breeds that don't have as big a problem or as bad a rep as pits.

This I will dispute. There are a couple of breeds that are notorious for getting old and cranky and mauling the family toddler. To me that is a big problem.

Edit (me slow posting) - No one's disagreeing with the idea of certifying the people. I think the bottom line here is that you feel as though people are attacking your breed. BP and jess don't mean to attack your breed, but other breeds that have cases of attacks also. No one wants any other breeds to be banned, but just perhaps let's get ALL the information out there, just not the horrible terror stories of pitts. Just to show, that pitts aren't the only dogs that can cause damage, or attack or bite or whatever.

 

[LabBreeder]

Is that ok?

Well, considering agressive breed was in quotes...no, it's not. That's the whole reason for the quotes...meaning, 'so called' agressive breed. I never actually said any breed was agressive...just 'so called' agressive...hence the quotation marks.