Breastfeeding mother kicked off plane, what would you do?

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Assuming they were ever compared doesn't speak highly of your literary perception. In places where it's a banned practive, meat-whistle tuning is just as illegal as breastfeeding.



That's your perogative...just don't expect to get away with breastfeeding a toddler on a plane...or many, many other places, without scrutiny.

And never confuse your inabillity to use a breast pump (or similar alternative) with the public's concern.
It's one thing to state your opinion, but don't appreciate you insulting me. I hope you can start voicing your opinion without making it personal.
 

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No I personally have not. But my cousin's wife breast fed when she had her baby with her, and she pumped for when he was not. I think it is probably something people should start 'conditioning' for or whatever you have to do when the babies are small. I know its not something anyone likes to think about, but what happens if something happens to you and you can't be there to breast feed? Your baby goes hungry cuz it can't take a bottle?

I also think it is a good idea for parents to get away from their children once in a while and if you are the only one that can feed your child, it's kind of hard to do that.

Now I dont understand why you just refuse to give your baby a bottle. But however if someone just flat out refuses to do that, well they should think about going on a plane or public places where you are not allowed to breast-feed before getting there and getting mad at the rules. So what if the rules are messed up. There are a million things in this world I don't agree with, but it's just the way things are and I have to deal with it.
 
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It's one thing to state your opinion, but don't appreciate you insulting me.
Make an atempt to improve your literary perception and it won't happen again.

Here, I'll help: click me

That's the first post in which a blowjob was mentioned. No where in that post, or any of the following, have blowjobs or breastfeeding been compared as similar practices outside of people stating (the obvious) that they're not comparable. The point that was mad eis that both practices, when done in public, in areas where it's obviously prohibited, or in situations in which others will complain, they are both viewed, by the law, as indecent exposure.

I hope this has helped.

Edit~ As you're not sure what an insult is, that would be an inflammatory remark aimed at another person. Insult can be found in anything. I find it insulting that so many people have a problem with following the rules of society, and from the fact that you insist that I'm insulting you. You finding insult in my postings is irellevent.
 
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:rolleyes:. . .
I already asked you politely to cease with insulting me and my "literary perception."
I'm done with this. I don't want to argue.
 

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Not sure what the problem is Makenzie? You sure seem passionate about this subject! Were you denied breastfeeding when you were little? :p Just a joke!


I am really not sure where I stand. One one hand I do see it as completely natural and no big deal. But then I think that if it make someone else THAT uncomfortable it should'nt be a big deal to cover up either. *shrugs*
 
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You sure seem passionate about this subject!
I could care less either way...I just find it entertaining that the best argument against "you just can't do it in some places" is "it's so natural"...and that people get so angry simply because another person disagrees with them while using more powerful arguements and simple logic.
 

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No I personally have not. But my cousin's wife breast fed when she had her baby with her, and she pumped for when he was not. I think it is probably something people should start 'conditioning' for or whatever you have to do when the babies are small. I know its not something anyone likes to think about, but what happens if something happens to you and you can't be there to breast feed? Your baby goes hungry cuz it can't take a bottle?

I also think it is a good idea for parents to get away from their children once in a while and if you are the only one that can feed your child, it's kind of hard to do that.

Now I dont understand why you just refuse to give your baby a bottle. But however if someone just flat out refuses to do that, well they should think about going on a plane or public places where you are not allowed to breast-feed before getting there and getting mad at the rules. So what if the rules are messed up. There are a million things in this world I don't agree with, but it's just the way things are and I have to deal with it.
You ARE allowed to breastfeed in public places on public property, there is nothing anyone can do to stop you. Private areas like the plane is a different story. They are privately owned.

There is nothing wrong with me choosing to not give my baby a bottle. I have my reasons and they are well researched and supported. Some people choose to and some people don't. There is nothing wrong with either choice. I am sure in the case of an emergency something could be figured out.
 

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Let's get back to the subject and not interject sexual functions . The only thing I see wrong with the whole story is ,seeing the baby was a toddler , why didn't the Mom feed before embarking or wait until after the plane was away from the gates. I wondered if this whole deal was planned . The family were boarded first , so I picture others just getting settled when she began . As to pumping , with the 1st I left a bottle once , in case the sitter needed it . Got home before the night feeding so it was never used. And yes, I used bottles for water and juices.
 

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You ARE allowed to breastfeed in public places on public property, there is nothing anyone can do to stop you. Private areas like the plane is a different story. They are privately owned.

There is nothing wrong with me choosing to not give my baby a bottle. I have my reasons and they are well researched and supported. Some people choose to and some people don't. There is nothing wrong with either choice. I am sure in the case of an emergency something could be figured out.
I consider places with a lot of people public, even if they are privately owned. Like stores and restaurants are "public places" to me. Even though they are privately owned.

I am sorry, but I am curious as to why you choose not to use a bottle at all though?
 
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You ARE allowed to breastfeed in public places on public property, there is nothing anyone can do to stop you.
There are certain public places in which it is prohibited. Far and few between, but existant. numerous public ordanances concerning the matter are brought up all the time...with unbelievable frequency in larger cities.

It's much like how playa lakes and duck ponds inside city limits, though on public land, have "no swimming" signs all around them. Sometimes it's just not allowed.
 

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I consider places with a lot of people public, even if they are privately owned. Like stores and restaurants are "public places" to me. Even though they are privately owned.

I am sorry, but I am curious as to why you choose not to use a bottle at all though?
I have my reasons and I refuse to argue them. I pulled this off the LLLI Breastfeeding website. It has a lot of my reasons summed up in paragraph from. Let me also add that it is a very short period of time in a baby's life where they exclusively breastfeed. Once they hit around 6 months, they can start with sippy cups and solid food. The first 6 months was a very precious time for my baby and me. I left her plenty of times and just made sure I was back by the next feeding. My mother never used a bottle on my sister and I and my sister never used a bottle with her two boys. It's just a personal choice.

"Just Give Him a Bottle"
Offering breast milk in a bottle is often suggested when the debate on breastfeeding in public hits television or radio talk shows. But that option offers problems for the mother and baby that may be overlooked by the general public. First, it takes extra time and care to pump, store, and transport milk - time that may be precious, particularly in the early weeks and months. Babies receive fewer of the benefits of breastfeeding when they receive human milk that is not fresh from the source. They also run the risk of developing nipple confusion - having trouble switching back and forth between breast and bottle. Mothers run a higher risk of developing a plugged duct or breast infection because of the delay between feedings at the breast, particularly in the early months. A mother who skips feedings will probably be very uncomfortable from full breasts. If she is unable to pump her breasts, her supply will probably decrease slightly. So she'll still be experiencing the consequences the next day, when her baby nurses more frequently to replenish her supply. She also loses the convenience of being able to soothe her baby quickly and easily while she is out. She may even run out of milk in bottles before she finishes her errands.

All of the challenges of offering human milk in a bottle while in a public place can be overcome. But the bottom line is that many women find it easier, healthier, more economical, more ecologically sound, and more relaxing to fit breastfeeding in with all their daily activities than it is to fit occasional bottle-feeding in with their breastfeeding.
 
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I could care less either way...I just find it entertaining that the best argument against "you just can't do it in some places" is "it's so natural"...and that people get so angry simply because another person disagrees with them while using more powerful arguements and simple logic.
Dude, if you think that your arguements are powerful I find that more than amusing, and you're right your logic is simple.

as for the attacks on others literary perception, I guess you could use a lesson in that as well, posting a link back to your post comparing breast feeding and blow jobs didn't help, when you say

Be it right or wrong, it's no different than if I were getting a blowjob in the back row.
What does it's represent?

I guess what we have here is a man from TX that has an unusual fear of boobs. Reminds me of a quote from a movie
 
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I don't see why she didn't just use the blanket like they asked her to. That was the issue, they asked her to use a blanket to cover herself a little and she refused to.

Yes today's society is far to concerned with hiding out bodies and far to embarrassed about the human body, but would it be so hard to use a blanket?
I agree with BB....just throwing a blanket over the shoulder for privacy is a good thing...that's what I did when I breast fed Jaime when she was a baby. I was modest myself and I also didn't want to offend anyone.
 

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I remember driving up to Canada with my Mom one year. This was when you could hold your baby in the front seat . We crossed over the boarder at Windsor , Ont. and Michael was hungry . I was nursing him when at a stop light a huge truck pulled up in the next lane and just starred down at us . I was mortified . I was covered too ! so glad times have changed , but I sure would hate long trips with 3 kids today !!
 

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About microwaving bottles... Microwaving denatures (unfolds) the proteins and renders them biologically inactive.
 

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I think it's the most ridiculous thing and I'm embarrassed to be an American in that one respect. What other country is as concerned about what is THE perfectly natural way to feed a baby? Can you imagine 3rd world countries worrying about such nonsense as covering up? I don't think covering with a blanket should even be an issue. If someone has a problem with the human body, it's phisiology and what it is designed to necessitate... the feeding of a child, then they're the ones with the abnormal perception and neurosis. This has nothing whatsoever to do with sex. There's nothing sexual about it. Whoever compared it to doing some sexual act in the back seat of a public place is way off base. This is not the same thing in any way, shape or form. If someone thinks it is, then he's the one with a deviant mind. It's feeding a baby! Yeah....what did they do before formula and bottles? Good grief. America or this kind of society needs to get over their skewed, Victorian, deviant mind set. Yes, they're the ones who are deviant....deviating from what is basic, feeding a hungry baby.

OK....my rant is over. LOL. I think she should sue!
 
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Dude, if you think that your arguements are powerful...
Defy them with realistic arguments. It'll be interesting to see you argue how it's perfectly legal and ok to tresspass against a private owner or governing body without consequences.

What does it's represent?
Simple sentence structuring. "It's" is a contraction of "it" and "is", "it" being "the punishment for indescent exposure".

Let me write it out for you the long way:

"Be it right or wrong, the punishment for breastfeeding on a plane against the wishes of that plane's owners and representatives is no different than if I were getting a blowjob in the back row."

The end result is the same.
 
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What other country is as concerned about what is THE perfectly natural way to feed a baby?
Denmark and Germany. No experience with any others so I can't say.

She can't really sue here because planes are private property. It's like if you came on my yard and pitched a tent. If I say no tents allowed you kind of have to adhere.
 
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Dober , isn't it a shame when some folks have no clue about natural , God given gifts ..... my daughter tried soooooooo hard to nurse Nash , he just wouldn't really latch on . Being her 1st , of course she worried and supplimented , which didn't help . At least he got some good out of it .
 

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