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Breastfeeding mother kicked off plane, what would you do?
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This kind of stuff infuriates me! 
I myself am a breastfeeding mother. When are people going to grow up about the issue. If formula was never invented, it would be the only way to feed babies. It's particularly helpful to nurse babies on air planes because it helps keep their ears from popping on take off. I swear, we live in such a prude and tempermental society. I just don't understand what is so offensive to some people. It's the most nutritious method of feeding babies and don't even start the argument on the baby being 22 months old! I plan on nursing my daughter until she's two. In fact, we are the only country in the world that stops nursing as early as we do.
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I myself am a breastfeeding mother. When are people going to grow up about the issue. If formula was never invented, it would be the only way to feed babies. It's particularly helpful to nurse babies on air planes because it helps keep their ears from popping on take off. I swear, we live in such a prude and tempermental society. I just don't understand what is so offensive to some people. It's the most nutritious method of feeding babies and don't even start the argument on the baby being 22 months old! I plan on nursing my daughter until she's two. In fact, we are the only country in the world that stops nursing as early as we do.Rant over.
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I don't see why she didn't just use the blanket like they asked her to. That was the issue, they asked her to use a blanket to cover herself a little and she refused to.
Yes today's society is far to concerned with hiding out bodies and far to embarrassed about the human body, but would it be so hard to use a blanket?
Yes today's society is far to concerned with hiding out bodies and far to embarrassed about the human body, but would it be so hard to use a blanket?
Well, I can tell you it's very annoying and not to mention HOT for the baby when you use a blanket to cover up while nursing. It's just as easy to be discreet without a blanket. I can nurse my daughter and show nothing. Anytime I cover up with a blanket she starts to sweat and gets distracted which can be really annoying when you are just trying to feed your child and be done with it. Plus, it's pretty uncomfortable for baby when they are dripping with sweat while trying to eat.
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Hmm....well I can see how that could create a problem for a nursing infant. As you know, or at least should know lol, I'm not, nor have I ever been, a mother so really I have no experience with nursing a baby
Really, I wouldn't care if someone was nursing their baby on an airplane as long as they where covered and I couldn't actually see anything. Then really.....why would anyone complain?
I wonder if she wasn't doing this very descretly, what I mean is, was she or was she not showing a little skin? lol That's really the only reason I could see someone complaining about, but then again......people are far too squirmish about naked skin
*edit* after reading the article a second time over, it seems to me the airline attendant just didn't like the woman not following her orders, but I hate articles because you just Know they aren't telling you everything and therefore can't make a completely educated opinion.
Really, I wouldn't care if someone was nursing their baby on an airplane as long as they where covered and I couldn't actually see anything. Then really.....why would anyone complain?
I wonder if she wasn't doing this very descretly, what I mean is, was she or was she not showing a little skin? lol
That's really the only reason I could see someone complaining about, but then again......people are far too squirmish about naked skin *edit* after reading the article a second time over, it seems to me the airline attendant just didn't like the woman not following her orders, but I hate articles because you just Know they aren't telling you everything and therefore can't make a completely educated opinion.
It's indecent exposure according to the United States. Be it right or wrong, it's no different than if I were getting a blowjob in the back row...regardless of the purpose or end result, it's far too kin to the stuff you see late at night on Cinimax.
Secondly, a plane is private property. You follow the rules and adhere to what the owners, or what teh representatives of the owners, say or you leave. She didn't adhere. She left.
Never heard of a bottle?
Yet I'd bet a dollar that the second sentence in this very post offends you.
But it's uncomfortable for everyone around you. I'm sure you've noticed this.
(btw, I'm not trying to just pick apart the posts and argue with everyone...simply pointing out that there's a rebuttal to every argument in favor of breastfeeding in public. Bottom line is sometimes it's against the rules...just have to deal with it...)
Secondly, a plane is private property. You follow the rules and adhere to what the owners, or what teh representatives of the owners, say or you leave. She didn't adhere. She left.
Never heard of a bottle?
Yet I'd bet a dollar that the second sentence in this very post offends you.
But it's uncomfortable for everyone around you. I'm sure you've noticed this.
(btw, I'm not trying to just pick apart the posts and argue with everyone...simply pointing out that there's a rebuttal to every argument in favor of breastfeeding in public. Bottom line is sometimes it's against the rules...just have to deal with it...)
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This kind of stuff infuriates me! I myself am a breastfeeding mother. When are people going to grow up about the issue. If formula was never invented, it would be the only way to feed babies. It's particularly helpful to nurse babies on air planes because it helps keep their ears from popping on take off. I swear, we live in such a prude and tempermental society. I just don't understand what is so offensive to some people. It's the most nutritious method of feeding babies and don't even start the argument on the baby being 22 months old! I plan on nursing my daughter until she's two. In fact, we are the only country in the world that stops nursing as early as we do.
Rant over.
I myself am a breastfeeding mother. When are people going to grow up about the issue. If formula was never invented, it would be the only way to feed babies. It's particularly helpful to nurse babies on air planes because it helps keep their ears from popping on take off. I swear, we live in such a prude and tempermental society. I just don't understand what is so offensive to some people. It's the most nutritious method of feeding babies and don't even start the argument on the baby being 22 months old! I plan on nursing my daughter until she's two. In fact, we are the only country in the world that stops nursing as early as we do.Rant over.
They might be true but it being true that it's irrelevant doesn't do you much good.
And too lazy to make a baby a bottle? Come now, I've made some myself and they do not take long to make. About 10 seconds to heat it up, one second to make sure it's not scalding, and 20 or so to mix everything together (not in that order of course). I don't buy that argument.
And too lazy to make a baby a bottle? Come now, I've made some myself and they do not take long to make. About 10 seconds to heat it up, one second to make sure it's not scalding, and 20 or so to mix everything together (not in that order of course). I don't buy that argument.
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You don't have to make up bottles every day...just on days like when you know ahead of time you'll be surrounded by a substantial number of strangers who have to deal with your actions...like on a plane, for example...you can't tell me she wasn't aware she'd be on a plane that day. Fact of the matter is that breastfeeding in public makes people uncomfortable...hell it makes me uncomfortable and I'm not shy nor do I really see anything wrong with it...it mostly has to do with all of the situations in which I've had the pleasure of witnessing the event it ALWAYS seemed like a really bad place to do it...like in church and on a crowded tram.
If you do it you're going to catch flak...it's part of being a rebel.
You don't have to make up bottles every day...just on days like when you know ahead of time you'll be surrounded by a substantial number of strangers who have to deal with your actions...like on a plane, for example...you can't tell me she wasn't aware she'd be on a plane that day. Fact of the matter is that breastfeeding in public makes people uncomfortable...hell it makes me uncomfortable and I'm not shy nor do I really see anything wrong with it...it mostly has to do with all of the situations in which I've had the pleasure of witnessing the event it ALWAYS seemed like a really bad place to do it...like in church and on a crowded tram.
If you do it you're going to catch flak...it's part of being a rebel.
This is only the second response I've ever read by you and oddly enough neither one of them were a pleasant one. First of all... "it's no different than if I were getting a blowjob in the back row" That is about one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard. A blow job no matter how discreet, is sexual in nature and can be viewed as explicit behavior which is unacceptable outside a private setting. How can it be indecent exposure if they're not exposing themselves? Have you ever seen a mother discreetly breast feed?
I feel far more uncomfortable with someone around me picking their nose, or hacking up sputum or some other nasty bodily function than I would ever be of a breastfeeding mother. I find it absolutely ridiculous that this is even an issue. A mother is feeding her child... what's the big deal?
And for you to say "ever hear of a bottle?" is proof that you haven't got a clue about a breast fed baby. MOST breast fed babies haven't got a clue what to do with a bottle. Sucking on the breast is totally different than the nipple on a bottle. Unless her baby learned to eat from a bottle as well as the breast.... a bottle would not have been an option.
And as far as the blanket thing goes..... it's true, they get all hot and sweaty under there. I personally would have probably used the blanket just to keep the peace on the plane, but it was her choice not to make her child endure eating under a blanket.
I have never breast fed, but I teach it all the time. And women can breastfeed their children very discreetly.
That is about one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard. A blow job no matter how discreet, is sexual in nature and can be viewed as explicit behavior which is unacceptable outside a private setting. How can it be indecent exposure if they're not exposing themselves? Have you ever seen a mother discreetly breast feed? I feel far more uncomfortable with someone around me picking their nose, or hacking up sputum or some other nasty bodily function than I would ever be of a breastfeeding mother. I find it absolutely ridiculous that this is even an issue. A mother is feeding her child... what's the big deal?
And for you to say "ever hear of a bottle?" is proof that you haven't got a clue about a breast fed baby. MOST breast fed babies haven't got a clue what to do with a bottle. Sucking on the breast is totally different than the nipple on a bottle. Unless her baby learned to eat from a bottle as well as the breast.... a bottle would not have been an option.
And as far as the blanket thing goes..... it's true, they get all hot and sweaty under there. I personally would have probably used the blanket just to keep the peace on the plane, but it was her choice not to make her child endure eating under a blanket.
I have never breast fed, but I teach it all the time. And women can breastfeed their children very discreetly.
you should NEVER heat a bottle up in the microwave... I'm assuming that's how you did it when you said "heat it up". And glass... you can mix all the bottles you want, but if you're baby has always been breast fed it won't have a clue how to eat from a bottle. And I can just about guarantee you that baby was soley a breast feeder since she was 22 months old.
So is breastfeeding...hence the reason it's banned in many public places for being views as "indecent exposure".
You < society. Sorry.
A baby's inabillity to use a bottle is not the public's concern. It's an issue that should have been addressed by the mother before entering a hostile enviroment.
Right...which she chose over riding on the plane to where ever she thought she would go that day.
She chose not to do it discreetly, though...I believe that's the issue here.
You < society. Sorry.
A baby's inabillity to use a bottle is not the public's concern. It's an issue that should have been addressed by the mother before entering a hostile enviroment.
Right...which she chose over riding on the plane to where ever she thought she would go that day.
She chose not to do it discreetly, though...I believe that's the issue here.
if you go back and read the article AGAIN you will see that it says she was discreetly breast feeding her child. Many women soley breast feed their babies... which means NO BOTTLES. That is not a crime for wanting what is best for your child. It would be different if she just whipped out a tit and started breast feeding with her whole breast exposed for the world to see. But have you ever seen an experienced mom breast feed her baby? You can't see ANYTHING. I don't buy the argument that it's indecent exposure.
When ever I see an opportunity to educate, I do. People need to know how unsafe it is to heat a bottle in a microwave and it also breaks down the nutrients that are very much needed. I mentioned this to glass because he may not be aware of it and should he need to make a bottle in the future he might think twice before heating it in the microwave... so how does this make little difference?