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What an accredited breeder with the LAA agrees to:
http://www.laa.org.au/breeders_why.htm
http://www.laa.org.au/breeders_why.htm
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Quote from the post at the top of the puppy forum :
I put in bold what that labradoodle.com site lacks, which makes it a dog factory as far as I am concerned.
If you can find any breeder that 1-does health testing on the parents, 2- doesn't breed them before they are 2 year old, 3- doesn't leave the mom and puppies in cages, 4- spends time with each puppy, 5- inquires about the buyer instead of just asking for a check, 6- doesn't charge the price of a pure bred puppy, 7- doesn't have over 5 litters a year, 8- doesn't have over 10 dogs for breeding, 9- doesn't breed the bitches more than once every 2 years
then maybe I will change my mind about labradoodle breeders only being in it for the money. Feel free to send me a link to convince me that I am wrong.
And I don't know about the others, but you saying we are as ignorant as you is definitely an insult... I think lots of people here have proven that they are far from being ignorant, you're just too bnarrow minded and blind to see it.
Why do I even bother posting anyway...
I put in bold what that labradoodle.com site lacks, which makes it a dog factory as far as I am concerned.
If you can find any breeder that 1-does health testing on the parents, 2- doesn't breed them before they are 2 year old, 3- doesn't leave the mom and puppies in cages, 4- spends time with each puppy, 5- inquires about the buyer instead of just asking for a check, 6- doesn't charge the price of a pure bred puppy, 7- doesn't have over 5 litters a year, 8- doesn't have over 10 dogs for breeding, 9- doesn't breed the bitches more than once every 2 years
then maybe I will change my mind about labradoodle breeders only being in it for the money. Feel free to send me a link to convince me that I am wrong.
And I don't know about the others, but you saying we are as ignorant as you is definitely an insult... I think lots of people here have proven that they are far from being ignorant, you're just too bnarrow minded and blind to see it.
Why do I even bother posting anyway...
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the problem is that you are totally unwilling to concede that anyone might know more than you. labradoodles are nothing new, ttheyve been around for atleast a few years. you still havnt answered the most significant question jason. what do you like about the labradoodle that you cant find in ANY other breed???
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Im pretty sure someone posted the question already, but Im not going to go back and read 17 pages of all this. maybe he missed the question, replies came in pretty fast a few times. I'll post it again just incase he missed it that time too....what do you like about the labradoodle that you cant find in ANY other breed???
forget for the moment wether they should be bred, before arguing any further wether they are responsible breeders or not, answer that question for us. maybe we'd be a little more willing to get off your case and just tell you what questions to ask, and what answers to find acceptable, if we understood why you think so highly of this mutt????
forget for the moment wether they should be bred, before arguing any further wether they are responsible breeders or not, answer that question for us. maybe we'd be a little more willing to get off your case and just tell you what questions to ask, and what answers to find acceptable, if we understood why you think so highly of this mutt????
I have done my research. That is what caused me to formulate my opinions. I don't state my opinion on something unless I know what I am talking about. If I don't know, then I go and find out, from different resources.
When I was out walking my dogs (again), I thought of something else that doesn't seem quite right about these people. They said something about you being put on a waiting list for a certain color, sex, coat type, etc. and then as soon as they have one, they will let you know. That just doesn't seem quite right.
When I was out walking my dogs (again), I thought of something else that doesn't seem quite right about these people. They said something about you being put on a waiting list for a certain color, sex, coat type, etc. and then as soon as they have one, they will let you know. That just doesn't seem quite right.
Maybe you have missed this...there are a LOT of posts. lol But because the "doodle" breeds don't have fixed genes, some shed a LOT just like a Golden would, and some shed normally. The reason these breeds were discontinued in the Companion dog thing was because they did shed.
And one of these mutts sound much more higher matience than a Golden. More like, Poodle matience.
And one of these mutts sound much more higher matience than a Golden. More like, Poodle matience.
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I don't think you've ever really researched Labradoodle breeders. You don't need to unless you are going to make claims you can't back up. Understand something here, I haven't done the research either. I'm not saying anything definitively pro or con about the breeders themselves. All I keep saying is that making blanket statements and assumptions about people are wrong. Believing what you believe about breeder vs. rescue is fine, that's a subjective thing. Saying 99.9% of LD breeders are irresponsible is objective and incorrect.
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your right rose, you should never pick a dog based on those criteria. health and temperment should be #1, everything else a distant 2nd 3rd etc. and according to MY "research" labradoodles shed just as much as goldens. but few labradoodles look like a golden. considering that fact, why not go with a golden, lab, chesapeake bay retriever, wire haired pointing griffon, chinook, flat coated retriever, brittany spaniel, and a lot of others??? you are looking at the labradoodle because you want a golden, but you want something that sheds less. most labradoodles shed just as much as goldens, some shed more. I just dont understand.
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I said in a previous post, a thousand pages ago, that I HAVE contacted quite a few labradoodle breeders, read about them online, and read about them in a veterinary journal, where the OFA quoted that they have only certified 10 labradoodles. all 10 were a while ago, part of the original breeding experiments/programs, and ALL 10 have been spayed or neutered because the experiment failed.
since many labradoodles shed as much or more than a golden, WHY NOT LOOK AT REAL BREEDS!!!!!!!
since many labradoodles shed as much or more than a golden, WHY NOT LOOK AT REAL BREEDS!!!!!!!
I don't understand either Stirder. He wants a Golden, so he wants a Lab/Poodle mix, that looks like a Huge Bichon Frise or a Bouvier Des Flandres? That befuses (confused mixed with befuddled. lol) me.
I have done research about the "Doodle" breeders. That is why I have written who knows how long of pages about the subject! I've looked at countless breeders of these "doodles" and I have yet to find one that I'm happy with! I don't recall, out of all of my experience with dogs and different breeds, anyone ever telling me, "Hey, I just found a really good responsible Doodle breeder!" Never.
I have done research about the "Doodle" breeders. That is why I have written who knows how long of pages about the subject! I've looked at countless breeders of these "doodles" and I have yet to find one that I'm happy with! I don't recall, out of all of my experience with dogs and different breeds, anyone ever telling me, "Hey, I just found a really good responsible Doodle breeder!" Never.
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