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Yeah, Tessa. Lots of 'crunchy' people and people who practice AP just skip the well-baby visits. Just dont go.

I have heard that if you are on assistance and skip the well-baby visits it DHS will pay close attention and may want to do a home visit.

If you really just dont agree w/ most of their advise why go? I only go to well baby visits for the vaccines. If it werent for that I would probably only go when she was actually sick. Other than the vax I really see no point in going to the doc w/ a healthy child. I can read about all the developmental stuff. I do like the peace of mind I get knowing that a doc gives her a clean bill of health but really they never tell me anything I didnt know.

I'm not going to go to every well baby. I just kidn of wanted to go to his 6 month to get an accurate weight/height and the developemental evaluation. Not sure if we'll go to 9 month well baby. Might not go again until 12 months, and then yearly.
 
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Yes, and this could very well be true if you believed vaccines weren't dangerous. IT is my sincere belief that vaccines do more harm than good. That, indeed, vaccines can be more dangerous than the disease itself. Therefore, I must protect my son from these vaccines. It isn't as though I'm saying I'd refuse treatment if he were ill, or expect God to make him magically well if he did become sick with a VPD. I'd get him treated, just like those that DO vaccinate and their child still comes down with the VPD. The benefits do not outweigh the risks. I AM doing everything I can to make sure he is healthy, even if you do not agree.
The reason there isnt a huge risk in not vaxing is b/c most others are vaxed. The more people who choose not to the higher the risk is getting.

The risks from most vax are very close to 0.
 
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IF you can sit there and say you are protecting yoru baby from disease (implying that I am not), then why is it rude for me to say that I'm protecting my baby from vaccines? pot meet kettle.
 

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You seriously need to get over yourself.

Im sorry you have such an awful life... Im glad you can get your kicks on here belittling people over and over again.

Sorry, someone decided to step up for Tessa.
I'm short, it's really easy to get over myself. :rofl1:

I would sincerely love to hear what evidence you have gathered to make the statement that you think my life is awful. In fact, I'm pretty sure you can't. I think my life is rather awesome. But hey, I can't be held responsible for people projecting their own feelings. :cool:
 

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Actually I'm going to have to agree with Zoom here. Tessa makes more threads about the same thing, to complain or whatever, then feels "attacked" constantly (let's look at the baby talk thread shall we) and gets defensive.

Tessa, you do what you want to do anyway, you know it's an unpopular opinion with doctors et. al. You seem to be confrontational enough on the internet, why not just put it flat out there for your doctor? Or are you an internet only badass?

You harp about vaccinations, but if no children were vaccinated they'd still be dying from measels, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, polio, etc. The only reason Mason will most likely not be susceptible to those diseases is because all the other little kids will have had been vaccinated. So you might want to think about the fact that other parents who are willing to vaccinate their child are the ones giving you the opportunity to not do so with yours.

Sorry, I don't buy it. My parents didn't have me vaccinated and I caught nearly everything in the book, minus measles. The problem with that was, I caught a lot of them as an ADULT, which is far worse than as a child. Try being in your 20's and catching chicken pox. They really didn't do me any favors.
 

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I'm not going to go to every well baby. I just kidn of wanted to go to his 6 month to get an accurate weight/height and the developemental evaluation. Not sure if we'll go to 9 month well baby. Might not go again until 12 months, and then yearly.
I've heard the 9 month is really a "catch-up" one for if you had been delayed for some reason on vaccines from before that, so it's really not an essential one. We went because I actually like going to the pediatrician just to have assurance everything is well, but you won't miss anything if you don't go to that one. It was VERY short--just a few minutes with the doctor for us
 

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What on earth could be wrong with well baby check ups? I think a good well baby exam is the way to pick up on problems that are not evident at birth. For example, many cardiac defects are picked up this way. And the person doing the exam certainly doesn't hurt the baby in any way. Wow, doctors have sure done a poor job with PR if this is where we are now.
 
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The reason there isnt a huge risk in not vaxing is b/c most others are vaxed. The more people who choose not to the higher the risk is getting.

The risks from most vax are very close to 0.
in your opinion. I have to disagree.

I accept that you think the vaxes are safe. That is your right to believe that. I won't critisize you for that. I only ask for the same in return. :)
 

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I also find it hard to put much stock in some saying that kids arent ready for overnight with grandparents until they are 2 or 3. A well adjusted kid that is close to the people they are overnighting with then there shouldnt be a issue. Bev went on one before her first birthday. you know what she had a GREAT time. Me not so much but she did. Along with other kids I know. OR that children wont be bonded to you i they dont sleep with or right next to you. Bev slept next to me for the first month more out of my convience. I couldnt get out of bed to BF without help. After that she slept in another room away from me some nights and she is extremely bonded to me. But she knows she can do things on her own.

The whole Dr. Sears site scares me it takes extremist to a whole new level if you read the FAQ section.
 

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Yeah, Tessa. Lots of 'crunchy' people and people who practice AP just skip the well-baby visits. Just dont go.

I have heard that if you are on assistance and skip the well-baby visits it DHS will pay close attention and may want to do a home visit.

If you really just dont agree w/ most of their advise why go? I only go to well baby visits for the vaccines. If it werent for that I would probably only go when she was actually sick. Other than the vax I really see no point in going to the doc w/ a healthy child. I can read about all the developmental stuff. I do like the peace of mind I get knowing that a doc gives her a clean bill of health but really they never tell me anything I didnt know.

Yeah we went for the vaccines and stuff but I also liked going to the well baby visits because it allowed us to get to know the doctor and for her to get to know us outside of a "she's sick and needs help" scenario. It was just a chance to talk and get familiar and for Hannah to get familiar with her doctor at a young age. Plus I liked having her weighed and measured :D

but yeah that's why I liked the well baby visits. there wasn't really a need (other than us getting her the vacc's) but just provided a time that we could become familiar and friendly with her doctor and her with us :)
 

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WHen your child has sores the size of your palm and can't even blink or lick his lips because of the blisters, you will get down on your knees and pray for a vaccine so this will never happen to another child. THey didn't have a vaccine back then. I couldn't get Hyia in quick enough for her chicken pox vaccine. Yes I had it, yes I survived it. Tom ended up not being able to add one plus one and was 250 lbs with a horrible temper. At 46 he was a real joy to be around. All because he got a secondary infection because of his chicken pox.

I get the autistic worry. TO think your going to put a magic blanket over your baby by giving him no protection at all opens doors to other risks. It's a moot anyway because your on medicaid and your hopes for finding a doctor that will pat you on the back..say woot a real knowledgeable one this Mother is. WOw I wish ALL parents would come to this conclusion, isnt' going to happen. Mason will end up with no medical care at all. ANd that is even more scary. Bury your pride Tessa. It will be the best thing you can do for your whole family. IF it helps at all, i thought I knew alot at your age too. Now i know i knew NOTHING at all.
 

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3M--good post, very well said. I also believe that God is great enough that He can deal with and adjust to modern technology. Thus faced with a sick infant, yes, we still pray as hard as we can, but we do it while applying every bit of medical knowledge available.
Oh yes He is :). I've known enough doctor/pharmacist Priests or Priests with Ph.D. in sciences to believe that God & sciences can co-exist peacefully :). In fact, they go hands-in-hands & against common beliefs, they actually support each other!!

I do think Tessa is doing the best she can to insure the health of her baby. I disagree with some of the things she does, but I understand she is trying her best.
I never doubt Tessa is doing her best for her child... but sometimes, I do have to question "her best". She's very young, still in school, inexperienced & new at motherhood - all knowledges she gained are through reading researched papers & forums?? - and we all know how biased, even fabricated some reseaches can be!! - When "her best" are against her doctors' best (and/or everyone's best), and she's stubbornly fixated on her way, it may cause more damages than good.
 
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You are taking this way, way too far. Bringing up somethign from an ENTIRELY different thread is just .. well, I'm not the one being confrontational.

It is NOT at all uncommon for peopel to believe the same about overnights.

And have you ever thoguht that maybe I have a very, very valid reason for not wanting any particular family member to have my baby over night?

And like I said, I have not coslept with him for a long time because Dustin didn't feel comfortable. Probably since he was 1 month old, he was either in the swing , then the playpen, now his crib. Please, please get your information straight before you start attacking
 

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My lyme doctor has scripture on the wall and on the form you fill out he asks if you wish to pray together.


I wrote no, i was not raised with religion and have no idea what is out there ..but in my head i thought ..i hope he does anyway. He is also teaching about what I have at Columbia University and is a big wig in the study of long term infectious disease.

My children had to overnight at GG's because I had to work double shifts at the nursing home because I was attending college monday through thurs. THey were just fine and developed a fine relationship with her.
 
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Autism is NOT the only thing to worry about. It wasn't the reason I decided not to vax.
 

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WHy don't you share with us your plus vs negatives. IT would be an interesting read.
 

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You are taking this way, way too far. Bringing up somethign from an ENTIRELY different thread is just .. well, I'm not the one being confrontational.

It is NOT at all uncommon for peopel to believe the same about overnights.

And have you ever thoguht that maybe I have a very, very valid reason for not wanting any particular family member to have my baby over night?

And like I said, I have not coslept with him for a long time because Dustin didn't feel comfortable. Probably since he was 1 month old, he was either in the swing , then the playpen, now his crib. Please, please get your information straight before you start attacking
Um that wasnt directly about you. I read the dr sears site just now and saw that along with the vacs and that is another reason I will not put much stock in him some of it yes its ok but most of it. Yeaaaaaa.
 

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Um that wasnt directly about you. I read the dr sears site just now and saw that along with the vacs and that is another reason I will not put much stock in him some of it yes its ok but most of it. Yeaaaaaa.
You forget that it is ALWAYS about her though.
 

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Oh yes He is :). I've known enough doctor/pharmacist Priests or Priests with Ph.D. in sciences to believe that God & sciences can co-exist peacefully :). In fact, they go hands-in-hands & against common beliefs, they actually support each other!!



I never doubt Tessa is doing her best for her child... but sometimes, I do have to question "her best". She's very young, still in school, inexperienced & new at motherhood - all knowledges she gained are through reading researched papers & forums?? - and we all know how biased, even fabricated some reseaches can be!! - When "her best" are against her doctors' best (and/or EVERYONE's best), and she's stubbornly fixated on her way, it may cause more damages than good.
But she won't change her mind based on what we say. I was a young, opinionated parent with very little peer guidance once. I did my best, and my kids survived and thrived. I think we hope that God especially looks out for young parents.

When you are young and have thus awesome responsibility, it is natural to read all kinds of stuff and believe that you are among the smarter and better informed. So we develop these parenting fashions like not vaccinating and others. It makes people feel like they are in control and smarter than everyone else. Fortunately there IS herd immunity, and kids are sturdy and it usually all ends well.
 
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