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If your children are vaccinated, Tessa's unvaccinated child should not cause harm, right?
We take Damien to a pediatrician. There are 2 people in the practice and they work different days so you can choose to only see one or the other if you want. I really like both of them, though the male is a little more non-traditional. Either of them would have supported non vaccinating if we had chosen. They were not at all pushy about not getting the H1N1. I did choose to get all the rest of the vaccines on schedule, though I did debate at first about extending some. I didn't tell them I was co-sleeping for a long time, though, because the female doctor always asked whether Damien was sleeping alone and on his back. the male doctor never mentioned it.
They are not PERFECT doctors but they were very supportive of breastfeeding, not pushing me to start solids before 6 months, and enough of what I found important that I am overall happy with them.
We take Damien to a pediatrician. There are 2 people in the practice and they work different days so you can choose to only see one or the other if you want. I really like both of them, though the male is a little more non-traditional. Either of them would have supported non vaccinating if we had chosen. They were not at all pushy about not getting the H1N1. I did choose to get all the rest of the vaccines on schedule, though I did debate at first about extending some. I didn't tell them I was co-sleeping for a long time, though, because the female doctor always asked whether Damien was sleeping alone and on his back. the male doctor never mentioned it.
They are not PERFECT doctors but they were very supportive of breastfeeding, not pushing me to start solids before 6 months, and enough of what I found important that I am overall happy with them.
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I cannot honestly help if others are rude and go out of their way to personally attack others. I know kindness isn't much a virtue these days - people would rather be "honest" (honest meaning an excuse for just wanting to be rude). But the only peopel showing the inability to 'agree to disagree' it is everyone else that EVERY time it comes up, ridicules me for my parenting choice(s).
This thread wasn't about my choice to not vaccinate, it was a question asking mothers if they take their child to a pediatrician or a family doctor. However, some people would rather turn it into another thread attacking me, and even mocking and making fun of me. If someone would like to discuss teh vaccine issue again, fine. But it is never a discussion. It is always an attack, as shown here. (Not everyone. THANKYOU to those that expressed your concern and opinion politely without attacking!)
The only persons showing bad character and/or how confrontational they are, are those that can't agree to disagree. I can only sincerely hope those persons are not truly like that in real life. I know the internet has no tones of voice,.. and you can attack others behind a screen with no real consequences.. I don't know why people would do that. I can't understand it. Even when people attacked me and treat me badly time and time again, I can still go into their threads, sincerely care and wish them the best. I only wish others had that same compassion.
This thread wasn't about my choice to not vaccinate, it was a question asking mothers if they take their child to a pediatrician or a family doctor. However, some people would rather turn it into another thread attacking me, and even mocking and making fun of me. If someone would like to discuss teh vaccine issue again, fine. But it is never a discussion. It is always an attack, as shown here. (Not everyone. THANKYOU to those that expressed your concern and opinion politely without attacking!)
The only persons showing bad character and/or how confrontational they are, are those that can't agree to disagree. I can only sincerely hope those persons are not truly like that in real life. I know the internet has no tones of voice,.. and you can attack others behind a screen with no real consequences.. I don't know why people would do that. I can't understand it. Even when people attacked me and treat me badly time and time again, I can still go into their threads, sincerely care and wish them the best. I only wish others had that same compassion.
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Oh wow! I've got to move to where you live! 
I didn't tell Mason's first ped we were cosleeping, but Dustin let it slip, and I know we got lectured on that too! We can't cosleep anymore, so it is a non issue. And his ped was very adamant about saying NO solids until 6 months, which I do agree with ! Yay! for common ground.
I didn't tell Mason's first ped we were cosleeping, but Dustin let it slip, and I know we got lectured on that too! We can't cosleep anymore, so it is a non issue. And his ped was very adamant about saying NO solids until 6 months, which I do agree with ! Yay! for common ground.
Our family doctor sat down and talked with us about vaccines. we weren't planning on doing an altered schedule but she sat down and talked to us about all our options anyway. I guess just so we would know that we didn't have to be scared that she would balk at us or what have you. Brian doesn't see the same doctor... he sees someone else in the practice cause he would rather have a male doctor rather than having the doctor that sees our daughter have to deal with any of his male issues.
but I see her and she's wonderful. So easy going and laid back and easy to talk to. she didn't push the H1N1 vaccine and even said that Hannah should definitely not get it because of her egg sensitivity.
but I see her and she's wonderful. So easy going and laid back and easy to talk to. she didn't push the H1N1 vaccine and even said that Hannah should definitely not get it because of her egg sensitivity.
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I think the people who like confrontation are the ones who dont just block Tessa.
If you have this much of a problem with her that you feel the need to jump all over her every time she posts anything, just block her, its not that hard.
If you have nothing better to do then constantly come on here and belittle a young person over and over again about the same thing, I think you need to look deeper into your own life.
If you have this much of a problem with her that you feel the need to jump all over her every time she posts anything, just block her, its not that hard.
If you have nothing better to do then constantly come on here and belittle a young person over and over again about the same thing, I think you need to look deeper into your own life.
Tessa. I must agree with this. If you want to treat your body (and Mason's) as God's temple, you'll be doing EVERYTHING you can to make sure that he's healthy, and that may INCLUDES vaccinating him, so that he can AVOID being sick in the future.
God does not make mistakes, but.. he doesn't make magics like a magician with a wand either. He doesn't give us diseases nor makes us sick, for if you looked at the core of all diseases, you'll find that they're directly/indirectly consequences of our own doings. Because of this, when we're sick, we'd have to go to doctors, take medicines, endure surgeries, etc.. we'd have to take actions to correct/fix/cure the problems ourselves. God is there to guide us, support us, help us make the right decision - but HE won't do it for us. In another words, He won't magically cure us without us making every efforts to cure ourselves first!
Mason's entrusted to you & Dustin & you two are solely responsible for his well-being. You can't blame God should He got sick with an illness that is totally avoidable had he been vaccinated, as well as you can't blame God for your own decision NOT to vaccinate him in the first place.
God does not make mistakes, but.. he doesn't make magics like a magician with a wand either. He doesn't give us diseases nor makes us sick, for if you looked at the core of all diseases, you'll find that they're directly/indirectly consequences of our own doings. Because of this, when we're sick, we'd have to go to doctors, take medicines, endure surgeries, etc.. we'd have to take actions to correct/fix/cure the problems ourselves. God is there to guide us, support us, help us make the right decision - but HE won't do it for us. In another words, He won't magically cure us without us making every efforts to cure ourselves first!
Mason's entrusted to you & Dustin & you two are solely responsible for his well-being. You can't blame God should He got sick with an illness that is totally avoidable had he been vaccinated, as well as you can't blame God for your own decision NOT to vaccinate him in the first place.
3M--good post, very well said. I also believe that God is great enough that He can deal with and adjust to modern technology. Thus faced with a sick infant, yes, we still pray as hard as we can, but we do it while applying every bit of medical knowledge available.
I do think Tessa is doing the best she can to insure the health of her baby. I disagree with some of the things she does, but I understand she is trying her best.
I do think Tessa is doing the best she can to insure the health of her baby. I disagree with some of the things she does, but I understand she is trying her best.
And here comes Tessa's savoir, swooping in on a carriage pulled by a mixed horde of itty bitty dogs because they are just so much more awesome than those huge horses. You're one to talk.
Tessa, either go get your own medical degree and practice medicine however you see fit, make the decision to just quit going to the doctor in the first place, or realize that thousands of years of medical advancements can't be all wrong or bad. God gave us a functioning immune system and he also gave us the brains to create things to fill in the gaps. Smallpox and bubonic plague are both perfectly natural, God-created if you will and completely disfiguring, if not outright fatal if you don't have the immunity for it. And no one does outside of a vaccine.
I'm all for limited vaccines and I think that the push we have to vaccinate against EVERYTHING is completely counter-productive and I think that the combo vacc's do more harm than good in a growing number of cases. But there are some that are good and kind of necessary. They just need to be spread out and given in a form that isn't being proven to cause autism. That being said, the only reason it's even a slightly viable option that won't result in your child contracting something and dying before his 15th birthday is because of herd immunity. Don't look down on people who do vaccinate, because they are the ones allowing you to cobble together the worst excuse for not vaccinating I've seen yet. I'm sorry, I'm in a very blunt mood today, but I'm not being abrasive, rude or attacking, just honest. No, really. I'm not a confrontational person at all.
Find a competent doctor who will be able to treat Mason if something, God-forbid, does happen to him, either because it's the nature of kids to get hurt and sick or because of something related to the limited research you've done to base your "I hate doctors, they're all stupid" belief system. I'm 100% NOT saying I hope that something happens to Mason, not in the slightest. I hope he ends up being the healthiest kid on the planet.
You're one to talk. Tessa, either go get your own medical degree and practice medicine however you see fit, make the decision to just quit going to the doctor in the first place, or realize that thousands of years of medical advancements can't be all wrong or bad. God gave us a functioning immune system and he also gave us the brains to create things to fill in the gaps. Smallpox and bubonic plague are both perfectly natural, God-created if you will and completely disfiguring, if not outright fatal if you don't have the immunity for it. And no one does outside of a vaccine.
I'm all for limited vaccines and I think that the push we have to vaccinate against EVERYTHING is completely counter-productive and I think that the combo vacc's do more harm than good in a growing number of cases. But there are some that are good and kind of necessary. They just need to be spread out and given in a form that isn't being proven to cause autism. That being said, the only reason it's even a slightly viable option that won't result in your child contracting something and dying before his 15th birthday is because of herd immunity. Don't look down on people who do vaccinate, because they are the ones allowing you to cobble together the worst excuse for not vaccinating I've seen yet. I'm sorry, I'm in a very blunt mood today, but I'm not being abrasive, rude or attacking, just honest. No, really. I'm not a confrontational person at all.
Find a competent doctor who will be able to treat Mason if something, God-forbid, does happen to him, either because it's the nature of kids to get hurt and sick or because of something related to the limited research you've done to base your "I hate doctors, they're all stupid" belief system. I'm 100% NOT saying I hope that something happens to Mason, not in the slightest. I hope he ends up being the healthiest kid on the planet.
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And here comes Tessa's savoir, swooping in on a carriage pulled by a mixed horde of itty bitty dogs because they are just so much more awesome than those huge horses. You're one to talk.
You're one to talk.
Im sorry you have such an awful life... Im glad you can get your kicks on here belittling people over and over again.
Sorry, someone decided to step up for Tessa.
You may not notice this, but actually the way you simply state your opinion most often puts down others parenting choices.
You say you are being all nice about it but just your statements about your choices are judgmental. You don't say we chose not to get vaccinations. You said you are "protecting him from vax" which does not sound well to those who do vax, like we aren't "protecting" our children.
Same thing with all the other choices. You state your choices in a way that puts down others who do things different. Maybe you don't notice it, but you do it and I believe that is why most of your threads about your choices turns into debates.
You say you are being all nice about it but just your statements about your choices are judgmental. You don't say we chose not to get vaccinations. You said you are "protecting him from vax" which does not sound well to those who do vax, like we aren't "protecting" our children.
Same thing with all the other choices. You state your choices in a way that puts down others who do things different. Maybe you don't notice it, but you do it and I believe that is why most of your threads about your choices turns into debates.
Yeah, Tessa. Lots of 'crunchy' people and people who practice AP just skip the well-baby visits. Just dont go.
I have heard that if you are on assistance and skip the well-baby visits it DHS will pay close attention and may want to do a home visit.
If you really just dont agree w/ most of their advise why go? I only go to well baby visits for the vaccines. If it werent for that I would probably only go when she was actually sick. Other than the vax I really see no point in going to the doc w/ a healthy child. I can read about all the developmental stuff. I do like the peace of mind I get knowing that a doc gives her a clean bill of health but really they never tell me anything I didnt know.
I have heard that if you are on assistance and skip the well-baby visits it DHS will pay close attention and may want to do a home visit.
If you really just dont agree w/ most of their advise why go? I only go to well baby visits for the vaccines. If it werent for that I would probably only go when she was actually sick. Other than the vax I really see no point in going to the doc w/ a healthy child. I can read about all the developmental stuff. I do like the peace of mind I get knowing that a doc gives her a clean bill of health but really they never tell me anything I didnt know.
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Yes, and this could very well be true if you believed vaccines weren't dangerous. IT is my sincere belief that vaccines do more harm than good. That, indeed, vaccines can be more dangerous than the disease itself. Therefore, I must protect my son from these vaccines. It isn't as though I'm saying I'd refuse treatment if he were ill, or expect God to make him magically well if he did become sick with a VPD. I'd get him treated, just like those that DO vaccinate and their child still comes down with the VPD. The benefits do not outweigh the risks. I AM doing everything I can to make sure he is healthy, even if you do not agree.
I second this. I did roll my eyes at the "protecting" thing as I feel I am protecting my kid from disease. The way you state your opinion clearly communicates that you think you are right and have no respect for people who choose another way yet you demand respect for your radical choices. (when it comes to medicine i think, for the most part, maintstream is the mainstream for a reason.)
This ^^^^
Just as you hate people telling you that your way is wrong... that's how the rest of us feel too. I'm sure you don't MEAN to cmoe across that way but you do and it's not just a select few of us that feel this way. YOu just seem to have a way of voicing your opinion in a way that puts people off and comes across as "I know better than anyone else" and you essentially put down other parents who don't do what you do.
Your posts come across as confrontational even if that is not your intention. So that's likely why so many of us get our hackles up.
Just as you hate people telling you that your way is wrong... that's how the rest of us feel too. I'm sure you don't MEAN to cmoe across that way but you do and it's not just a select few of us that feel this way. YOu just seem to have a way of voicing your opinion in a way that puts people off and comes across as "I know better than anyone else" and you essentially put down other parents who don't do what you do.
Your posts come across as confrontational even if that is not your intention. So that's likely why so many of us get our hackles up.
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