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If I thought it was worth a single life I would be there with a rifle, I wouldnt be sitting here talking about it. That goes for any conflict. I wont support any conflict that I wont take up arms for myself. I suppose that statement isn't true, I'm dumping several hundred dollars per week into conflicts that I say I dont support.

I am more afraid of pissing off the rest of the global community the way Germany did, and we all know how they came out. Im certain they didnt go into the second world war thinking they were bad or evil.

I am certain we will stay on the offensive until we stop. I dont know the reason we will stop, perhaps this apocalypse you speak of will end it, maybe we will go broke, perhaps we will dominate the world and make it one government, maybe someone big will get frightened and lash out.. who knows? I only know that the only way for peace is someone has to quit fighting. It wont be us unless we meet financial ruin ie. Soviet Union. I know as a leader backing off would be a hard thing to do as hard as saying "I was wrong".

I got this little chunk of dirt out in the middle of nowhere so that I can be with my family, where no one would want to target and I could stay here and watch the world consume itself with its fear, greed, power lust and any other human fault while I chew on deer jerky. I hope the people get what they want, those who want peace as well as those who want war.
 

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If I thought it was worth a single life I would be there with a rifle, I wouldnt be sitting here talking about it. That goes for any conflict. I wont support any conflict that I wont take up arms for myself. I suppose that statement isn't true, I'm dumping several hundred dollars per week into conflicts that I say I dont support.

I am more afraid of pissing off the rest of the global community the way Germany did, and we all know how they came out. Im certain they didnt go into the second world war thinking they were bad or evil.

I am certain we will stay on the offensive until we stop. I dont know the reason we will stop, perhaps this apocalypse you speak of will end it, maybe we will go broke, perhaps we will dominate the world and make it one government, maybe someone big will get frightened and lash out.. who knows? I only know that the only way for peace is someone has to quit fighting. It wont be us unless we meet financial ruin ie. Soviet Union. I know as a leader backing off would be a hard thing to do as hard as saying "I was wrong".

I got this little chunk of dirt out in the middle of nowhere so that I can be with my family, where no one would want to target and I could stay here and watch the world consume itself with its fear, greed, power lust and any other human fault while I chew on deer jerky. I hope the people get what they want, those who want peace as well as those who want war.


I don't even know what any of that means....Are you, like countless other people now a days, comparing the USA to Nazi Germany?? How can people even say that crap....We don't invade...we liberate! Big difference. Who doesn't want peace? Of course we all do.

I don't like nukes at all they scare the heck outta me. I'd like for there to be a global nuclear disarmament....but the simple fact is, that ain't gonna happen.
 
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I don't even know what any of that means....Are you, like countless other people now a days, comparing the USA to Nazi Germany?? How can people even say that crap....We don't invade...we liberate! Big difference. Who doesn't want peace? Of course we all do.

I don't like nukes at all they scare the heck outta me. I'd like for there to be a global nuclear disarmament....but the simple fact is, that ain't gonna happen.
We eat, we breathe, we crap. Nazis did those things too, does it make you a Nazi? There are many parallels that can be drawn. I didnt say that we are invading other countries. We are providing a military presence in many nations, that just so happens to include bombings, soldiers on the ground, setting up a government that we agree with, which is very different from what the German military did...right? looking at it from a selfish stand point it isnt cheap and it can cause a country to go broke and over stretch its military.

They call it liberation, if they called it something unpleasant it would be hard to gain civilian support, wouldnt it? The communists tried to force their type of government on other nations and they didnt want it. Who is to say that all of the Iranians want our government. Didnt we also fear the spread of communism? Do you think other nations may fear the spread of our government?

If it is liberation I would rather my tax dollars went to liberate my state. Strip the government of power here and allow us to create a place where I can not be forced to pay income taxes. It would allow the people to have privacy in their documents and banks, the right to form militias and to bear arms suitable for combating a military presence, the right to govern itself, the right to fair speedy trials where you face your accuser and G-man not having the power to come in the middle of the night and kick down your door. Basically just hand us the Bill of Rights and allow us the freedoms old America used to have before everyone let the media scare them into a frenzy.

And No we dont all want peace. We want control and that aint gonna happen either. You probably wouldnt want another country coming over here uninvited and fixing us.
 
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Wow...I'm happy I don't have that kinda hate for my country to say "Strip the government of power here and allow us to create a place where I can not be forced to pay income taxes."

"You probably wouldnt want another country coming over here uninvited and fixing us."

If I lived in the middle east and was oppressed by my government I would...
 
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I dont have hate for my country. I love it. I hate fascists and socialists who are turning my country from a place of great freedom to a huge prison where we dont get to see our full earnings because it is stolen by these pigs to soothe their fears. The same pigs who want to strip us of arms so that when they have all of our freedoms removed we dont have the means to fight our way out of their mess.

I suppose you would have been born a modern America lover even if you were born in Iran? Those folks dont know how we live any more than we know how they live.
 
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Well of course I would prefer Anarchy over any government. I think the Native Americans had it made before we arrived. The men hunted and fished all day, the natives had sex all night, the women did all the work.. Now thats freedom!

I would however, compromise by having our government stripped down to the power allowed it by the Constitution. Reading the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights just makes me giddy. Thats the America I love. The one that was independent and free before we made it rich enough to deal with countries outside our borders.
 

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On this I do have to nitpick Zoom, my question was solely in dealing with Iran.
But that's my point. No, I don't think the Nation of Iran having nukes sounds like a good idea, because I don't think anyone having nukes sounds like a good idea.
 

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