For the pro-firearm crowd.
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I'm not sure how having a gun is supposed to be to protect the house, when most people have the guns locked up (often times pieces in separate places).
If someone was about to attack me, I don't think they'd wait for me to run into my closet and open the safe, pull the ammunition off the top shelf in the other room, and load the gun. There's just not time. Nor do I imagine that I'd be thinking straight enough to do it without screaming or shaking so hard i couldn't open the safe.
It just seems like a weak argument. Although I guess if I lived in a huge house where it would take an intruder 5 minutes to find me instead of 5 seconds like in my current apartment, there'd be more validity to it.
If someone was about to attack me, I don't think they'd wait for me to run into my closet and open the safe, pull the ammunition off the top shelf in the other room, and load the gun. There's just not time. Nor do I imagine that I'd be thinking straight enough to do it without screaming or shaking so hard i couldn't open the safe.
It just seems like a weak argument. Although I guess if I lived in a huge house where it would take an intruder 5 minutes to find me instead of 5 seconds like in my current apartment, there'd be more validity to it.
No, it is the reason. There's this strange mentality, and I see it all the time, that if you make something illegal, people won't do it. Well, of course that's true with law-abiding citizens, but not with criminals. The assumption, I assume, is that criminals are deterred from doing illegal things fore fear of punishment . . . except that they aren't, which is why they are criminals . . . there's also the urge to "do something" whether it is useful or no. I don't see conspiracy here . . . I see futile attempts to try and remedy problems by controlling what CAN be controlled . . . namely people who respect the law. The fact that they are, generally, not the problem, doesn't dawn on the lawmakers . . . I suspect because most of them DO obey the law . . . and don't understand why other people don't.
That said, there are other policy reasons, I just disagree with them . . . if gun sales are illegal, there will, eventually, be fewer physical guns around. That's true, though here it would take forever. If people don't have guns in their houses, there will be fewer gun accidents and gun suicides . . . also true, but I don't think that's really the government's business. Then there's just the assumption that guns are dangerous (true enough) and no one has a really legitimate reason to have one (they usually arent' fond of hunting either) and the police are there to protect you, so why let people have one? Those are all valid enough reasons, if impractical (like the police protecting you . . I don't keep an officer in my back pocket), and nannish . . . but they aren't irrational.
That said, there are other policy reasons, I just disagree with them . . . if gun sales are illegal, there will, eventually, be fewer physical guns around. That's true, though here it would take forever. If people don't have guns in their houses, there will be fewer gun accidents and gun suicides . . . also true, but I don't think that's really the government's business. Then there's just the assumption that guns are dangerous (true enough) and no one has a really legitimate reason to have one (they usually arent' fond of hunting either) and the police are there to protect you, so why let people have one? Those are all valid enough reasons, if impractical (like the police protecting you . . I don't keep an officer in my back pocket), and nannish . . . but they aren't irrational.
Yep, we don't have all our guns locked up either. My dad's green handgun (yes, it's green for some ungodly reason) is accessible. My two guns are locked up and so are most of the others. Since my dad shoots competitively we have enough guns here to arm a small army. He always buys a new shotgun and never sells the old ones.
In all honesty, I think the majority of traitors who want guns banned are the legislative, judicial and executive branches of our gubment.
Who else would really have logical reasons to see the American people disarmed ?
Americans after 233 years of collecting heat to protect the 2nd, you bet the gubment's scared. The only guns they ever encountered on the streets were criminals guns ... it's not the criminals they fear, it's the law abiding Americans.
With all due respect, they should be.
Who else would really have logical reasons to see the American people disarmed ?
Americans after 233 years of collecting heat to protect the 2nd, you bet the gubment's scared. The only guns they ever encountered on the streets were criminals guns ... it's not the criminals they fear, it's the law abiding Americans.
With all due respect, they should be.
Teach your kids to properly handle and respect guns and you lessen the risk of them accidently shooting themselves or others. I learned at an early age how to properly load and shoot a .22 rifle and learned about handguns when I went to college. I intend on taking a firearm course at some point in the near future and getting a firearm, even though I'll probably have my Fila before the firearm. I don't want to put my dogs in a situation where they can be destroyed for doing what I wanted them to do, which is just ridiculous...but sadly true.
Marijuana is legal in Canada...maybe that's why you seem to have lower crime rates?
Marijuana is legal in Canada...maybe that's why you seem to have lower crime rates?
The internet is fascinating to me, because you get to "talk" to so many people you'd never meet or associate with in real life. (Not that I'd consciously choose not to talk to you guys, we'd just never cross paths).
I can't imagine owning a gun. I've never known anyone who did, except an ex boyfriend in high school, and that's 'cause his dad collected WWII stuff, so the guns were OLD. I've never lived anywhere where I was so worried for my personal safety that I'd want to have a firearm in my possession, nor have I ever lived where people went hunting, really.
It's just fascinating. I will never own a gun (at least, I don't plan to), but the different lifestyles and mentalities are interesting to me, even if I don't understand them.
I can't imagine owning a gun. I've never known anyone who did, except an ex boyfriend in high school, and that's 'cause his dad collected WWII stuff, so the guns were OLD. I've never lived anywhere where I was so worried for my personal safety that I'd want to have a firearm in my possession, nor have I ever lived where people went hunting, really.
It's just fascinating. I will never own a gun (at least, I don't plan to), but the different lifestyles and mentalities are interesting to me, even if I don't understand them.
We can't fight the government anymore no matter what kind of guns we have. The governement's technology is over the top so in this day and age, we're screwed. But without guns in the hands of regular citizens, we'd never have won the revolutionary war. But I agree with this:
And the rest who oppose guns in the hands of law abiding, American citizens are traitors to what America has always stood for, even if unintentional. They want the government to take care of everything and do nothing for themselves. They tolerate the governement's excessive control and oppressive tactics on the citizens. This is exactly reminescent of what happened in communist countries. We are becoming a police state. I say if that is what people want, they should go live in a communist or over-the-top socialistic country. America was never meant or designed to be the way it is becoming. Sad.
My mom, even though she grew up with farm guns, was for some reason very against us kids learning how to use them. She could never give a good reason why, she just was. After my dad got a handgun for home defense, we were never told where it was kept, so I kept a Louisville Slugger under my bed in the event something should happen. And I lived in a good neighborhood. Doesn't mean there still wasn't a chance. I refuse to end up as a statistic.
Now, I'm living on my own (or soon will be again, taking a small regrouping time) and I'm a fairly attractive, small-statured female. In a criminals eyes, I'm a prime target. I plan on making sure anyone who is dumb enough to come after me (and through my dogs) will really, really regret it.
Now, I'm living on my own (or soon will be again, taking a small regrouping time) and I'm a fairly attractive, small-statured female. In a criminals eyes, I'm a prime target. I plan on making sure anyone who is dumb enough to come after me (and through my dogs) will really, really regret it.
For the record, I don't own a gun because I'm actively concerned about my safety. I own a gun because I live with other people in this world and have no direct control over their actions: people do odd things, no matter where you are.
Same reason we have fire insurance, flood insurance, car insurance, and life insurance. Think of a gun as ante-mortem life insurance.
Same reason we have fire insurance, flood insurance, car insurance, and life insurance. Think of a gun as ante-mortem life insurance.
