For the pro-firearm crowd.
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the tiger didn't "TURN" on his best friend. he probably got scared and confused, imagine being on a stage with 100000 people watching, blinding bright lights, people clapping, loud noises, all those stage effects.. He probably just got spooked
I dont approve of tigers being "performance animals" or "pets" but No, i dont think that they just turn on people.
I dont approve of tigers being "performance animals" or "pets" but No, i dont think that they just turn on people.
If that tiger had been trying to kill Roy, he would have been dead less than a second after her mouth was on his throat. You have no concept of how incredibly powerful their jaws are. The fact that he survived is really a testament to her self control.
It was bad judgement on the tigers part, but she was demonstrating a very natural instinct to remove Roy from what she perceived as a dangerous situation. She did what any good mother would do, carry him out by the neck scruff. It just doesn't work so well on humans.
It was bad judgement on the tigers part, but she was demonstrating a very natural instinct to remove Roy from what she perceived as a dangerous situation. She did what any good mother would do, carry him out by the neck scruff. It just doesn't work so well on humans.
The tiger was a male and was not a mother. 
Here is more info for you.
"On October 3, 2003, during a show at The Mirage, Roy Horn was bitten on the neck by a seven-year-old male tiger named Montacore. Crew members separated Horn from the tiger and rushed him to the only Level I trauma center in Nevada, University Medical Center. Horn was critically injured and sustained severe blood loss. While being taken to the hospital, Horn said, according to sources, "Don't shoot the cat!""
Here is more info for you."On October 3, 2003, during a show at The Mirage, Roy Horn was bitten on the neck by a seven-year-old male tiger named Montacore. Crew members separated Horn from the tiger and rushed him to the only Level I trauma center in Nevada, University Medical Center. Horn was critically injured and sustained severe blood loss. While being taken to the hospital, Horn said, according to sources, "Don't shoot the cat!""
You can't beat them but you can sic your attack dog on them? Weird laws.
That's a parenting problem. On the flip side, many kids don't die because their parents took the time to properly educate their kids about guns and lock them up (Edit: Erm, the guns, not the kids. Though I suspect the latter would work too).
I'm living proof!
Also, I'm not going to say I'm world-class or anything, but I've been drunk a....couple of times in my life, and never once thought of shooting someone. I've been pretty **** pissed off at people while drunk but never once, even with a gun upstairs in my room (if we're at my place), thought of shooting anyone.
You don't lose all sense when you're drunk. Thought processes still occur, they're just impaired. But you don't suddenly have a wanton disregard for life when you're in a stupor.
But, then again, maybe the thought of navigating the stairs was a deterrent.
That's a parenting problem. On the flip side, many kids don't die because their parents took the time to properly educate their kids about guns and lock them up (Edit: Erm, the guns, not the kids. Though I suspect the latter would work too).
I'm living proof!
Also, I'm not going to say I'm world-class or anything, but I've been drunk a....couple of times in my life, and never once thought of shooting someone. I've been pretty **** pissed off at people while drunk but never once, even with a gun upstairs in my room (if we're at my place), thought of shooting anyone.
You don't lose all sense when you're drunk. Thought processes still occur, they're just impaired. But you don't suddenly have a wanton disregard for life when you're in a stupor.
But, then again, maybe the thought of navigating the stairs was a deterrent.
The tiger was a male and was not a mother. Here is more info for you.
"On October 3, 2003, during a show at The Mirage, Roy Horn was bitten on the neck by a seven-year-old male tiger named Montacore. Crew members separated Horn from the tiger and rushed him to the only Level I trauma center in Nevada, University Medical Center. Horn was critically injured and sustained severe blood loss. While being taken to the hospital, Horn said, according to sources, "Don't shoot the cat!""
Here is more info for you."On October 3, 2003, during a show at The Mirage, Roy Horn was bitten on the neck by a seven-year-old male tiger named Montacore. Crew members separated Horn from the tiger and rushed him to the only Level I trauma center in Nevada, University Medical Center. Horn was critically injured and sustained severe blood loss. While being taken to the hospital, Horn said, according to sources, "Don't shoot the cat!""
I kinda look at this issue the same way I look at illegal drugs: if guns were illegal, those who have no regard for the law (mainly criminals) would still have them. And they would make everone else's life hell. Don't know about you, but I don't want to only have pepper spray and my dogs to defend me against a gun.
A small fact that a lot of people don't realize: Mace/pepper spray isn't instantaneous. It takes about 5-10 seconds to kick in, and in that 5-10 seconds, you have an extremely pissed off person at very close range with a firearm. Is that a situation you want to be in?
Now think to after it kicks in. You now have a person with a firearm that is in a lot of pain, raging, blind, and probably out for blood at this point. Firing off shots wildly at anything she/he hears? I'm pretty sure that will happen. Again, does this sound like a situation you want to be in? I think not.
New scenario: Person breaks in, has a gun. They hear the infamous sound of a shotgun cocking and loading a shell into the chamber. They probably have some sort of a handgun, so they know the homeowner has more firepower then them and doesn't have to aim to hit them. They'll probably run unless they don't care for their own life, in which case you should gladly deprive them of it.
Now think to after it kicks in. You now have a person with a firearm that is in a lot of pain, raging, blind, and probably out for blood at this point. Firing off shots wildly at anything she/he hears? I'm pretty sure that will happen. Again, does this sound like a situation you want to be in? I think not.
New scenario: Person breaks in, has a gun. They hear the infamous sound of a shotgun cocking and loading a shell into the chamber. They probably have some sort of a handgun, so they know the homeowner has more firepower then them and doesn't have to aim to hit them. They'll probably run unless they don't care for their own life, in which case you should gladly deprive them of it.
Very good point. Another thing to remember, is if you are at home, you are in an enclosed room full of pepper spray.
When I worked as a cashier at McDonalds *shudders* the other cashier was being a dumb bum and spritzed a little pepper spray "to see if it worked" :wall:
Well, it did work. On her about 30 seconds before it hit me. So if I had been a gunman, I would have had 30 seconds of no resistance to do the deed.
When I worked as a cashier at McDonalds *shudders* the other cashier was being a dumb bum and spritzed a little pepper spray "to see if it worked" :wall:
Well, it did work. On her about 30 seconds before it hit me. So if I had been a gunman, I would have had 30 seconds of no resistance to do the deed.
Canada does not suck. There is less violence here than in the U.S. even though guns are not allowed. I'm not saying that guns are always the problem, but let's say that a regular citizen (not a criminal) who owns a gun in the U.S. was drunk and got mad at someone and had a gun, what would stop them from using that gun since they cannot think rationally? Also many kids die because their parents do not hide their guns properly. Pretty sad.
By the way, since our wonderful registry came in, just how many crimes have been traced to a "Registered" gun?? Do you really believe all those shootings in Toronto are done with properly "registered" guns? I also guarantee you that out here in the country, There is no way any registry will ever stop people from owning guns.....
Oh MY God..... You are hitting a nerve with me, maybe it's cause it's 5 am and I am up not feeling well, but.... My father was a Game Warden, and I grew up with guns hanging on a rack on our wall.. No one ever hid them, I was, however taught to RESPECT them.... Though we now keep ours in a Gun Cabinet, my kids were taught the same way.. The percentage of kids killed that way, is low, the cases are sensational though, so they get lots of play in the media. Many more children in Canada drown every year, should we ban Lakes? Or Cars? Or the TV's that fall on them?
As for getting drunk and killing someone, well, I have been drunk and mad before, very mad.... and in a situation where I felt powerless over someone, something I WILL not get into with you, and I did not grab the gun off the rack and blow his brains out... If you are drunk and so inclined, then a Big ole knife may do the job too... Want to ban them?
I need to walk away from you, I hate our firearm registry, and I Love my Country, but hate that we are supposed to not defend ourselves. I also have news for you... Someone breaks into this house in the Night... They will be held for Police after Hub gets done with using them for a punching bag first... People do defend themselves here and will continue to do so...
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Excuse me, but here in America the right to keep and bare arms has nothing to do with hunting. Guns in general 'round here and protected by the 2nd are in fact to oppose abusive government. In America we have the ballot box, jury box, cartridge box ... NOT a soap box. It's no wonder traitors want to abolish guns in America. BTW, double wammy with our dogs. LMAO
I like how people so conviently forget this.
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I like how people so conviently forget this.
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Because banning handguns in the UK REALLY worked.. Now there are just as many if not MORE handguns residing in the UK to unlicenced, unqualified, and irresponsible people..
Making something illegal doesn't solve the problem, it just creates 100 more problems.. When they were legal there was at least a hope of controlling the vast majority of handguns and handgun owners, in the form of licencing, police background checks, armory checks, gun safe controls, correct stockage of ammuniton, and even the amount of ammo purchased was controlled.. Now they actually have NO idea how many handguns are in the UK, or who owns them.. It's incredibly easy to make handgun ammo, I know because my dad used to make his own.. My dad was an expert marksman in Police Pistol competitions (you should see the amount of trophies he has won).. Until the government took his guns and his right to shoot them away.
We've had guns in the house for over 30 years, and NEVER once had an incident.. Sometimes just knowing that someone has a gun, and is trained to use it is enough of a deterrent.
It's even become one of those MUST HAVE items, there's a certain "Caché" to owning a handgun illegally. Make something illegal and everyone rebels and does it anyway, but more riskily, with less safety controls.. Infact there ARE no real means of controlling illegal weapons. If someone wants a gun badly enough, they are gonna get one by any means possible. FACT!
Prostitution is also illegal in the majority of places.. Does that stop it? Nada!
Now there are just as many if not MORE handguns residing in the UK to unlicenced, unqualified, and irresponsible people..Making something illegal doesn't solve the problem, it just creates 100 more problems.. When they were legal there was at least a hope of controlling the vast majority of handguns and handgun owners, in the form of licencing, police background checks, armory checks, gun safe controls, correct stockage of ammuniton, and even the amount of ammo purchased was controlled.. Now they actually have NO idea how many handguns are in the UK, or who owns them.. It's incredibly easy to make handgun ammo, I know because my dad used to make his own.. My dad was an expert marksman in Police Pistol competitions (you should see the amount of trophies he has won).. Until the government took his guns and his right to shoot them away.
We've had guns in the house for over 30 years, and NEVER once had an incident.. Sometimes just knowing that someone has a gun, and is trained to use it is enough of a deterrent.
It's even become one of those MUST HAVE items, there's a certain "Caché" to owning a handgun illegally. Make something illegal and everyone rebels and does it anyway, but more riskily, with less safety controls.. Infact there ARE no real means of controlling illegal weapons. If someone wants a gun badly enough, they are gonna get one by any means possible. FACT!
Prostitution is also illegal in the majority of places.. Does that stop it? Nada!
