I haven't heard of arsenic being used a pesticide on organic labeled food, I have heard of nightshade being used. Which I honestly don't think is great. In Germany we have different levels of organically grown food. Natural or partial organic, organic where the use of natural chemicals ect. is allowed and demeter, where there is no use of chemicals allowed what so ever. Demeter farmers use meathodes like Polycultures, crop rotation and planting crops according to where they are regionally ment to grow.
Espcially now that the Organic boom (Im not sure what its like in the states, but here its become a trend) is "upon us", we need to be careful that orgnically labeled foods, really are organic.
There are organic foods out there in us as well that avoid the use of nightshade & arsenic. I think the company that makes black and green chocolate do.. Im not sure though.
Espcially now that the Organic boom (Im not sure what its like in the states, but here its become a trend) is "upon us", we need to be careful that orgnically labeled foods, really are organic.
There are organic foods out there in us as well that avoid the use of nightshade & arsenic. I think the company that makes black and green chocolate do.. Im not sure though.
There's a big difference in my mind..........I could not go out and wring a pup's neck and skin him and then throw him in my pot to eat. I could (and have) done the same to a chicken though, and would again if I had the chance to grow my own.
Different emotional attachment. What would you think about cutting up a cat on your plate and dipping it in sauce and savoring the flavor? I would think the very idea is outrageous to you (and me, and most people in the western world at least) but yet it's nothing to do the same to a cow, pig, chicken, goose, fish, deer, lamb, I could go on.
There IS a difference to any person who eats meat. And if you are one of those who eats meat, you cannot say there is no difference in your mind unless you are willing to eat dogs, cats, hamsters, whatever kind of "pet"
Different emotional attachment. What would you think about cutting up a cat on your plate and dipping it in sauce and savoring the flavor? I would think the very idea is outrageous to you (and me, and most people in the western world at least) but yet it's nothing to do the same to a cow, pig, chicken, goose, fish, deer, lamb, I could go on.
There IS a difference to any person who eats meat. And if you are one of those who eats meat, you cannot say there is no difference in your mind unless you are willing to eat dogs, cats, hamsters, whatever kind of "pet"
Speaking of horse manure, don't put it on potatoes or tomatoes...no matter if it's old or fresh. It will kill them. Yes, almost all veggies need full day sun to thrive. I think having a garden is the best. I always had one until I moved to north Idaho. I don't have a long enough growing season where I am. It's really tough to grow good veggies unless one can start them indoors or have a green house. I don't have enough space inside to do that. But anyhow....they're the best....fresh, home grown veggies.
I'd love to have my own chickens...for the eggs, although, eggs have a lot of cholesterol so I don't eat many. There is one breed of chicken, (forget the name) that lays eggs lower in cholesterol. I'm afraid I'm one of those people who is a wuss about killing any animals I'd raise. That would be so good if I weren't that way. LOL. It would be so great to have your own animals for meat that you could feed the way you find is best.
Organic is expensive. I wonder about going to a butcher to find healthier meat. I keep thinking about it, but not looking into it. Ugggg. Such a procrastinator.
I'd love to have my own chickens...for the eggs, although, eggs have a lot of cholesterol so I don't eat many. There is one breed of chicken, (forget the name) that lays eggs lower in cholesterol. I'm afraid I'm one of those people who is a wuss about killing any animals I'd raise. That would be so good if I weren't that way. LOL. It would be so great to have your own animals for meat that you could feed the way you find is best.
Organic is expensive. I wonder about going to a butcher to find healthier meat. I keep thinking about it, but not looking into it. Ugggg. Such a procrastinator.
But that chickens whole purpose to them is to be a chicken. Sure its easy for us to shut off any emotional attachment but whether or not we do doesn't effect that the animal could be suffering.
I understand some animals need to be raised for meat, we just need to be doing it in a way that doesn't mean the animal suffers all the way to the slaughter. Nothing wrong with letting them be a chicken or a pig before we kill them, LOTS wrong with running a "farm" like a production like simply to pump out product so people get cheap meat.
If the only difference is if we get emotianally attached or not, that really has nothing to do with the animals suffering, its about giving us piece of mind while we support it.
I understand some animals need to be raised for meat, we just need to be doing it in a way that doesn't mean the animal suffers all the way to the slaughter. Nothing wrong with letting them be a chicken or a pig before we kill them, LOTS wrong with running a "farm" like a production like simply to pump out product so people get cheap meat.
If the only difference is if we get emotianally attached or not, that really has nothing to do with the animals suffering, its about giving us piece of mind while we support it.
I find it strange that factory farming is such an issue. Ok most chickens are factory farmed around here. But cows sure aren't. Neither are sheep or goats. You drive a long and see them standing in fields. Our neighbours run a few 100 cattle and sell to the butches that supply local grocery stores. So buying beef in at the local grocery store (as long as its not price choppers) is buying local for the most part.
These cows, and sheep etc get to be cows and sheep etc till they become plastic wrapped portions on display.
These cows, and sheep etc get to be cows and sheep etc till they become plastic wrapped portions on display.
Here, Dekka, there are still some smaller beef farms, but they don't get to sell directly to stores. Young beef cattle are sold to large feed lots in the midwest, usually after being sold and moved to larger lots several times or through brokers.
At the feed lots they're pumped full of hormones, antibiotics, etc., before they're hauled to large slaughterhouses.
It's a brutal life after that first farm.
At the feed lots they're pumped full of hormones, antibiotics, etc., before they're hauled to large slaughterhouses.
It's a brutal life after that first farm.
Yes, unfortunately, Renee is right. For some reason, despite all the amazing pasturage in Iowa/Nebraska/Kansas/parts of Missouri, they instead cram 1000's of cattle into crowded, smelly feedlots. It really affects the taste of the meat too! I can always tell you if that steak is grass fed or a feedlot cut. I'm having a hard time finding good steak out here in Colorado because it's cheaper for pretty much everyone to buy the feedlot stuff instead of good grass-fed beef.
I despise buying produce at the stores anymore, because none of it has any taste. It's all picked too early, grown in depleted soil and then waxed up to show well while in the store. I can't wait until I can grow a tomato plant this year. And green peppers...OM NOM NOM.
I do buy my eggs and milk from a local place though, they even deliver!
I despise buying produce at the stores anymore, because none of it has any taste. It's all picked too early, grown in depleted soil and then waxed up to show well while in the store. I can't wait until I can grow a tomato plant this year. And green peppers...OM NOM NOM.
I do buy my eggs and milk from a local place though, they even deliver!
something like 80% of the cholesterol in your body is made by your liver. Dietary intake of cholesterol doesn't have much to do with your levels, so eat away if you like eggs.
in addition, I really believe the levels aren't whats so important, but rather the other foods you eat that cause chronic internal inflammation that cause the oxidation of cholesterol that causes the problems. That and the foods that reduce the elasticity of your blood vessels and cause tears that need to patched with cholesterol so you don't die. Those don't help either.
But anyway, eat eggs, they're a fine food source.
in addition, I really believe the levels aren't whats so important, but rather the other foods you eat that cause chronic internal inflammation that cause the oxidation of cholesterol that causes the problems. That and the foods that reduce the elasticity of your blood vessels and cause tears that need to patched with cholesterol so you don't die. Those don't help either.
But anyway, eat eggs, they're a fine food source.
you know why? because they can't keep them alive that long. You think i'm joking, but i'm not.
They pump them with antibiotics and meds because their diets are so shitty they'd all be sick and die cramped together like that. The amount of corn they eat literally will rot their stomachs from the inside out. But it gets them nice and fat fast, to the point of obesity and then they do them a favor and kill them.
It's sickening to see how the quality of stuff I get from butchers has changed over the years from what I did when I was younger on my grandparent's farm and my friends dad's butcher shop, to what I get from butchers today. There is so much fat hanging off the beef hearts they're probably double the weight for the same heart they were before just from the fat.
They pump them with antibiotics and meds because their diets are so shitty they'd all be sick and die cramped together like that. The amount of corn they eat literally will rot their stomachs from the inside out. But it gets them nice and fat fast, to the point of obesity and then they do them a favor and kill them.
It's sickening to see how the quality of stuff I get from butchers has changed over the years from what I did when I was younger on my grandparent's farm and my friends dad's butcher shop, to what I get from butchers today. There is so much fat hanging off the beef hearts they're probably double the weight for the same heart they were before just from the fat.