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Discussion in 'The Fire Hydrant' started by tessa_s212, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. tessa_s212

    tessa_s212 Guest

    Anyone else seen this?

    You know, my sister has been a vegetarian for over 3 years. I've known for some time some things about it. I know enough from my sister that I should have cared. I just never quite had the motivation. I've always felt the food industry was wrong, but how was I supposed to help that? starve myself? I couldn't afford organics, and if I tried to eat better I'd be eating far less.

    But after watching that movie... they finally had the right idea. They just barely touched on the idea of the poor treatment of the animals, and focused more on the poor treatment of the people in the industry, and of course focused majorly on just how unhealthy it all is for YOU and for your CHILDREN. People should care about the animals, but they don't. But if you turn it around and show them how it could be hurting their children, maybe that'll make them rethink it all. I already know that I never wanted Mason to have formula, I know that he won't get the jarred baby foods (I want to make it at home from fresh produce), I'm not vaccinating him.. I'm already doing so much to provide him the healthiest start possible.. I think I just needed that little extra nudge to put that plan into action.

    It's been in the back of my head for many years that I'd like to eat better or ONLY eat/buy meat from humane, local, small farms. Walmart is convenient.. but it is time I start looking for places that take foodstamps that sell local products.

    If you're like me, and have had that little voice in the back of your mind wondering about all the horrors of factory farming and the food industry.. this is an excellent movie/documentary to watch!!! I highly recommend it.
     
  2. JessLough

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    Never seen it... but i am a vegetarian.....
     
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    sparks19 I'd rather be at Disney

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    It was pretty good, I've seen it. It's really sad and it some of it is really unhealthy, but I can't stop eating meat, and I won't.
     
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    Dekka Just try me..

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    Haven't seen it. But if you watch documentaries you won't eat anything except maybe what you find in pristine areas grown by hermits.
     
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    GlassOnion Thanks, and Gig 'em.

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    Feh, didn't like it. Way, WAY biased, misleading, and full of misinformation.


    I loved the part where they were talking about all the things from corn and how our food is just 're-shaped corn' now a days. They may have a beef with high fructose corn syrup but after that it was just comical. Flashing a bunch of scary sounding words like 'diglycerides' and 'ascorbic acid' without explaining them. Really? This is quality documentaries? Diglycerides are perfectly natural AND healthy and ascorbic acid is just 'Vitamin C'. What a load of bullshit.

    Then they're talking about the big time chicken producer people and they say something like 'this guy makes only $13,000 a year'. And they're right, he does! But that's PURE PROFIT after he's paid back the company and that's PER CHICKEN HOUSE. He had 4 of those bad boys, so he's making $13,000/yr * 4 and then whatever else he does on the job, because taking care of those chickens isn't a full time job. Oh and that big 'bust' they had where they're clearing out the dead chickens? Chickens die all the time, they're not very hardy creatures AND they peck each others eyes out, there's going to be casualties regardless of how dense you pack them.

    Also I loved their idea of an ideal farmer. They're vehemently against chickens being 'crowded' together but shoving a chicken head first through a shoot and sawing its head off? PERFECTLY FINE! DO IT DO IT DO IT! Hypocrisy, thy name is.

    It'd be one thing if they chose to target the companies that own the seeds (and thus the farmers have to harvest them and return them, and should the seeds spread through natural means [like they're supposed to] and cross-pollinate with other strains, the company can sue them for copyright infringement) but they didn't. They went for flashy, meaningless **** that only told half the story and tried to make it sound credible. And they did a good job at making it sound factual and honest, it's just a shame it isn't.
     
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    eddieq Silence! I ban you! Staff Member

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    Have no interest whatsoever. I've found that those "documentaries" are really editorials that are spun to favor the opinion of the film maker.

    I eat meat. I know where it comes from. I simply don't care ;)
     
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    Dekka Just try me..

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    I know.. monsanto is MUCH scarier than any meat producing company I have heard of.

    And most of the documentaries on Monsanto aren't 'out there' most of the science isnt' thrown around in a scare tactic way either.
     
  9. tessa_s212

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    This movie is NOT about making you a vegetarian. NOT at all. Never once did it discourage meat eating, it just encourages you to know where your food is coming from, and to get it from good, reputable, honest, humane sources.
     
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    Same here. I eat meat, I use animal products, and I like leather and fur........don't see that changing anytime soon. I also know I won't be living in the country growing/raising my OWN food anytime soon (if ever) either so I'd rather not see ;)
     
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    That may be true. I still have no interest in an editorial film about food. I know enough about the process. As I stated above, I simply don't care.
     
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    My grandpa raised beef cattle and my stepdad took me to a small slaughter facility (local guy) when I was like 6 or 7 (much to the horror of my mother) where they had fresh carcasses hanging, etc. I know where my food comes from and still do eat meat and use leather. Fur just creeps me out though--no thanks.

    I do wish that there was grass fed meat more readily available. I have no issue with meat, but am not a big fan of mass produced meat, as it tends to be nutritionally inferior than grass fed. To be honest, I also feel like a big fat hypocrite when I refuse to buy stuff from Petland because they sell puppies but buy factory farmed meat. If I didn't detest most veggies I think I would actually be able to get by well on a small enough amount of meat that I could afford grass fed. One of my goals for 2010 is to increase the amount of grass fed locally grown stuff and we are growing a veggie garden this year.

    I think it's great that you are making your own baby food Tessa. My mom did that, and it is cheaper.
     
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    Almost all of the meat in our grocery store (ok well not the seafood) is local. It doesn't make sense to ship it when we grow so much right here. The roasts I buy at the store are the same cows I drive past in the fields in the summer (well they are out there other times too) just saying they get grass.

    I even go to the farmers market to get very local produce (some produce comes from further away just due to land and soil types.. easier to grow in the Holland Marsh)

    Last summer there were signs all over grocery stores about the push to provide local produce and meat when they can as it is better for local economies and better for the environment (less transporting)
     
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    I totally agree with, and support this as often as I possibly can! The problem with that is, we can only eat so much corn! :rofl1: But seriously though, I do always try to buy the food grown/raised closest to home........Michigan apples/tomatoes, local dairy and eggs, etc etc :)
     
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    Even high-fructose corn syrup is not a big deal in moderation ... just like any other sugar since that's how the body processes it. But they're trying to say "ascorbic acid" is something scary or to be avoided? What's their slogan, "Bring Back Scurvy"? :yikes:

    I hate it when "documentaries" are nothing more than re-packaged propaganda. Seems to be the trend lately though. ::sigh::
     
  16. sillysally

    sillysally Obey the Toad.

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    But in your MEAT? I'm not OK with that. There's enough sugar out there to try to avoid as it is without worrying about it being in beef.....
     
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    Not sure the referenced film (loathe to call it a "documentary" <g>) was just about meat? But no, hidden sugars in meat doesn't sound like the greatest of ideas. 'Course some people freely choose to eat meat with sugar ... i.e, turkey with cranberry sauce, pork chops with apple sauce, etc. ::shrug::

    I just don't think sugar is the diabolical evil it's made out to be ... as long as it's consumed in moderation ... recognizing of course that it may need to be excluded by people who have specific health problems that preclude sugar, etc. Which is why hidden sugars seems like a bad idea.

    But I have found that people with specific health problems that include strict dietary restrictions become pretty adept at finding hidden sources of prohibited substances in food.

    Example: SIL's kid has a deadly peanut allergy ... and she is an absolute wiz at finding peanut sources, including peanut oil, in foods that it might not be expected to be there. She doesn't fuss about it or expect everyone else to protect her kid though ... she just views her own diligence as part of parenting her own kid. She's taught her kid to be just as diligent, and now that he's at an age where he sometimes eats at his friends' homes he's never had any problems ... he knows what to look for and avoid.
     
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    sillysally Obey the Toad.

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    "They may have a beef with high fructose corn syrup" I have not seen the film so I could be misinterpreting but it seemed like there were hidden sugars in the meat.

    I don't think sugar is "evil" but I am trying to eat healthier and it sucks when there is sugar is in TONS of things.
     
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    I haven't seen it. I already know that grocery stores aren't the best place to get food from. Yet, our options are somewhat limited, since we live in the city. At this point all we can do is have a small garden in the backyard, and try to buy local.

    I want to have a hobby farm at some point. For our next house we're planning on buying some acreage as well, so hopefully I'll have the room for a huge garden, fruit trees, a couple cows, a couple horses, a bunch of chickens, maybe a pig, maybe some ducks, maybe a bee hive... Who knows, the possibilities are endless :) I just LOVE the idea of being independent and self-sufficient.
     
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    Glass Onion's posted reply said "They may have a beef with high fructose corn syrup."

    "Have a beef" = To have an argument or concern with something.

    I don't think the OP said there were hidden sugars in meat though? If it's one of those packaged pre-cooked or ready-to-cook meats and has flavoring .... say, like "Honey Teriyaki Beef" or something ... then yeah, that would have sugar in it. But by law it would have to be listed in the ingredients.
     

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