Fertility treatments, what are your opinions?
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I totally jumped for joy when I was told it was highly unlikely I would ever conceive. And if I didn't, I probably would miscarry before 10 weeks. I'm still on birth control, just to lessen the odds. No way I ever want to be a parent, and pregnancy really grosses me out. So I know exactly what I'm giving up, even being in a position where it's highly unlikely anyway. And I'm happy with it. Thrilled.
If others want to have kids, go for it. But just because you feel like you have that right, don't call the rest of us out for not wanting any or questioning the reasoning behind doing such things.
Two way street, folks.
If others want to have kids, go for it. But just because you feel like you have that right, don't call the rest of us out for not wanting any or questioning the reasoning behind doing such things.
Two way street, folks.
Yeah ... Sucks don't it?
Also having like 19 kids cuz the couple doesn't believe in birth control (like on that show "19 kids & counting" ) that has me doing a WTF.
For the record this thread was not a stab at those who have used fertility treatments WITH IN REASON like those that help a woman ovulate & whatever but things like embryo transfer & invetro I think need to be perfected before they are widely used.
I think it's that way with a lot of meds not just ones for fertility like my grandmother who has cancer & is 96 yrs old yet they keep insisting on doing chemo treatments on her ... If I was her I would just not do it but I don't say that but in my mind I don't think it's right to put her thru that, her last yes on earth should mnot be filled with pain & discomfort
Also having like 19 kids cuz the couple doesn't believe in birth control (like on that show "19 kids & counting" ) that has me doing a WTF.
For the record this thread was not a stab at those who have used fertility treatments WITH IN REASON like those that help a woman ovulate & whatever but things like embryo transfer & invetro I think need to be perfected before they are widely used.
I think it's that way with a lot of meds not just ones for fertility like my grandmother who has cancer & is 96 yrs old yet they keep insisting on doing chemo treatments on her ... If I was her I would just not do it but I don't say that but in my mind I don't think it's right to put her thru that, her last yes on earth should mnot be filled with pain & discomfort
I think it's a very personal choice, and "too far" can only be defined by the couple that is choosing to pursue or not pursue it
I would probably not be able to get pregnant naturally due to PCOS, but I have absolutely ZERO desire to have kids or have a partner at all. Others don't have the same opinion as I do.
I would probably not be able to get pregnant naturally due to PCOS, but I have absolutely ZERO desire to have kids or have a partner at all. Others don't have the same opinion as I do.
That's all I have been saying!!! & I get called an atheist & a 12 yr old for it!
The following is MY FEELINGS, not putting words into your mouth, Lyselle ... Just saying.
I'm glad you parents love being a parents that's great for you. BUT (& it's. big but) you have to understand there are ppl in this world (me) who do not like pregnancy & don't like kids (yes ... Even your kids) who don't want to be bothered by them & don't want to have to hear their tantrums in resturants or wAlmart. Just like not everyone likes dogs or cats or horses, I don't try to force my dogs on them or call them children or atheists for not liking dogs or animals, that is THEIR choice just like not liking parenting/kids is mine.
It's not that I am repulsed by it, I just don't see why it's "worth it". & I never will.
The following is MY FEELINGS, not putting words into your mouth, Lyselle ... Just saying.
I'm glad you parents love being a parents that's great for you. BUT (& it's. big but) you have to understand there are ppl in this world (me) who do not like pregnancy & don't like kids (yes ... Even your kids) who don't want to be bothered by them & don't want to have to hear their tantrums in resturants or wAlmart. Just like not everyone likes dogs or cats or horses, I don't try to force my dogs on them or call them children or atheists for not liking dogs or animals, that is THEIR choice just like not liking parenting/kids is mine.
It's not that I am repulsed by it, I just don't see why it's "worth it". & I never will.
Umm.. I'm an atheist lol and am certainly not insulted and the reason someone asked if you were was because we were discussing religious reasons you might oppose.
Yet, why do I even bother.. you do this all the time. Make an SWOOPING insulting statements like "I wish fertility treatments were never invented"
and then when people dare to say anything or point out the obvious reasons it is insulting.. you freak out over being attacked and backtrack and turn it into an issue over people attacking you for not wanting kids.
A FEW people in this thread have spoken up who don't want children. That is not the issue. Nobody cares if you don't want kids I assure you. Frankly, I'm glad you don't want them.
But yea, it is a two way street. You want people to respect the fact that you don't want children.. respect the right of other people to want and have them.
To wish that they had "never come up with fertility treatment" (even though it has nothing to do with you since you don't even want kids) is INSULTING to those who do want kids and had to pursue those avenues. To say you wish these treatments never existed is to say you wish their children conceived through these methods didn't exist either. How is that NOT insulting? I don't care if you like kids or not. ''
and frankly I never would've guessed you were a day above 16 age wise. From the spelling to the seemingly total lack of tact or understanding of the feelings of others...you do come off like a bratty teenager.
Yet, why do I even bother.. you do this all the time. Make an SWOOPING insulting statements like "I wish fertility treatments were never invented"
and then when people dare to say anything or point out the obvious reasons it is insulting.. you freak out over being attacked and backtrack and turn it into an issue over people attacking you for not wanting kids.
A FEW people in this thread have spoken up who don't want children. That is not the issue. Nobody cares if you don't want kids I assure you. Frankly, I'm glad you don't want them.
But yea, it is a two way street. You want people to respect the fact that you don't want children.. respect the right of other people to want and have them.
To wish that they had "never come up with fertility treatment" (even though it has nothing to do with you since you don't even want kids) is INSULTING to those who do want kids and had to pursue those avenues. To say you wish these treatments never existed is to say you wish their children conceived through these methods didn't exist either. How is that NOT insulting? I don't care if you like kids or not. ''
and frankly I never would've guessed you were a day above 16 age wise. From the spelling to the seemingly total lack of tact or understanding of the feelings of others...you do come off like a bratty teenager.
What all I said was that I really don't like it & I with they hasn't come up with it ... & I don't ... Because I think it's very over used & abused by drs in some cases: can't get pregnant? That's ok! We have treatments for that! I just think that ppl are waaaay to blinded by their own desires to have kids to think it they in some cases.
Fertility treatments like anything else medical should have counseling shut what happens if you have 10 kids from it or whatever.
Fertility treatments like anything else medical should have counseling shut what happens if you have 10 kids from it or whatever.
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Depends on what we're referring to. I don't necessarily have a problem with people using medical technology to override what nature decides to throw at us, to an extent. Call me strange, but I don't necessarily think that passing on defective fertility genes is necessarily a negative thing with our population as high as it is. I just wish nature had the ability to take it personally and be more selective, as someone suggested that I had implied it already was.
I'm not sure if this was directed at me (I don't mind if it was or wasn't) but I thought I would just say that I wasn't wanting a reason for her (or anyone else) not wanting a child. I can understand not wanting a child and not enjoying everything that comes with children. I don't think birth is a 'beautiful' thing. It's bloody and chaotic. No, your newborn isn't 'gorgeous'. It looks like an even more wrinkled Yoda. Without the green.
I was curious as to why the OP (or anyone) would not want fertility treatments to be available. (If this is not what you meant, then ignore that.) Not, would she personally use them. I don't care if she does not want children. I am not judging anyone for not wanting kids. I respect your choice on that.
To the OP, I'm not meaning to attack you and I'm sorry if you feel that I am. I am just genuinely curious.
So you want the right to do what you want with your body.. but you reserve judgement on what people will do with theirs?
Here's a tip. In order to get the kind of respect for women you seem to want.. it means respecting ALL WOMEN and believing they have the right to make the choices they have chosen.
Women who want kids, stay at home moms, engineers, scientists, teachers, women who breastfeed in public, women you don't agree with..all of them.
To respect women and to give women the right to their bodies means to respect the choices that women make for themselves PERIOD.
It doesn't mean wanting freedom for yourself and your body and then turning around and limiting the freedom of others.
Here's a tip. In order to get the kind of respect for women you seem to want.. it means respecting ALL WOMEN and believing they have the right to make the choices they have chosen.
Women who want kids, stay at home moms, engineers, scientists, teachers, women who breastfeed in public, women you don't agree with..all of them.
To respect women and to give women the right to their bodies means to respect the choices that women make for themselves PERIOD.
It doesn't mean wanting freedom for yourself and your body and then turning around and limiting the freedom of others.
Who is bothering you with their kids?
I have no issue whatsoever with you not liking kids, but for something you don't like, you sure do spend an awful lot of time talking about it. That's the part I don't understand.
Maybe, just allow yourself to not like kids, not like pregnancy, not like feet, not like boobs, not like pit hair... Just don't like it and be done with it. Don't obsess about it ya know?
I have no issue whatsoever with you not liking kids, but for something you don't like, you sure do spend an awful lot of time talking about it. That's the part I don't understand.
Maybe, just allow yourself to not like kids, not like pregnancy, not like feet, not like boobs, not like pit hair... Just don't like it and be done with it. Don't obsess about it ya know?