dreaded posting this

[gaddylovesdogs]

I think it was dumb of that woman to go out and buy him a load of stuff when she's had him for just one day. She should have realized that maybe he had a home (which he does). I don't think it was rude of her to ask to purchase Maverick, if her kids like him and all, but she can't say that he is the dog for them when she's had him for only a few days. But she should think about you and your family - about your daughter, about your other dog, about you and your husband - not just her family.

 

[AmberwayGSD]

Well that is a very tough one.A decision I would be balling while making.I think you should take him back.You love him and he is your familys dog not theirs.Just my 2 cents though.

 

[poodlesmom]

As others have said it is Julie & her husband's decision and, that being said, whatever decision they make will be the right one for them & for Maverick.

I'm with Dreeza as far as the bashing of the mother and the calling of her children spoiled. Being a mother & grandmother I can thoroughly understand wanting to give your children what you can that will bring them happiness and to try to keep sadness away from them if it is within your power. I think that is what this mother was trying to do. Missing posters convey an owner is accepting responsibility for the missing pet - it doesn't necessarily mean love and a true desire to have the pet returned - it does show the desire to assure the well-being of the pet.

Many years ago I had a litter of kittens. A young mother and her son came to look at the kittens as the cat the mother had had for years was lost due to old age. Her young son had grown up with the cat. When he walked into my house he immediately starting smiling and said "Mommy, here's our cat!". The mother cat looked identical to the cat they had recently lost. He had no interest whatsoever in any of the kittens - I brought each & every one over to him and explained they were the ones looking for a new home, not the mommy cat. He started crying (he was only about 5 yrs old). I started crying right along with him as did his mother while my cat was snuggled up just as cozy as could be in his lap & purring her utter contentment. I didn't have the heart to deny him and I knew Blackie would be totally spoiled and well loved. That day they left with Blackie and my phone number. For the next 10 yrs I'd get 1-2 calls a year from Timmy to tell me thanks and give me an update on how Blackie was doing. He also called me when Blackie passed away and thanked me for letting him have her to love for all those years.

Was that mother being unreasonable and was Timmy spoiled? I don't think so! Was I an owner who really didn't want her cat? No!

Would I do it again? I don't know - it would totally depend on the situation I would imagine. I do pray that I never find myself in that situation again as it is a hard one to be in.

OK, I'm off my soapbox and I hope I didn't offend anyone - that was not my intention.

 

[RD]

My point is that this seems to promote the 'finders keepers' idea. They didn't even go to Julie with the intention of getting a new dog, they just found him and said "whoops, we're gonna keep him!".

Did he have his tags on? I'm willing to bet they took them off. It's what happened when someone found Buster and decided they wanted to keep him.

 

[Saje]

If they wanted to keep him that badly RD they wouldn't have called Julie when they saw her posters. I don't think they are horrible people I just don't think you should try to buy someone's dog. And I don't think they can know that much about each other in such a short time.

Julie, how are you doing? Have you come to a decision yet? What are your husband's thoughts?

 

[avenlee]

Have you all noticed, that Julie hasn't replied to all this turmoil. Julie, hun, don't shy away. We're here with whatever you decide. (((((HUGS))))) I know you've been through alot this past month. PM me if you need to.

 

[Saje]

lol Julie's not one to run away. She always posts no matter what people are saying! That's our Julie. She's probably just got her hands full. Kids... dogs... husbands...well just one husband I assume

 

[yuckaduck]

Her daughter has been sick lately too so she is very busy, I am sure she will post when she has time too!

 

[Saje]

She hasn't been on since yesterday so I'm not worried that we scared her off. She knows what we're like. I do hope she's ok though

 

[bubbatd]

Come back Julie !!! When I had my one day " visiter" I absolutely fell in love with her !! Even the vet who found the micro chip hoped that they'd let me find a home for her as they didn't had tags on her. Yes, she was chipped, but do you know how many people there are out there who wouldn't think or bother to have her checked for one ?? I had checked on Petfinder, all local shelters , animal control etc and it was my last resort. I still miss her, as she was a lovely dog.

 

[juliefurry]

I'm still here and we are still considering. He is my husband's dog afterall. Maverick was never a dog that we would have went and picked out on our own he was given to us without any warning by a couple of friends who didn't care about him. We had been looking into poodles before Maverick had come and had been seeing breeders and researching before Maverick came to us. We took Maverick out of the kindness of our heart. As much as we love him, he causes a lot of destruction that my husband just doesn't know how to deal with and we can't control. The shelter was not willing to help us and shortly after he disapeared contacted us because we are not the original adopters of the dog and he should not be living with us. If we do decide to let the woman keep him we will make sure she gets in contact with the shelter and goes and files out the proper paperwork with them and pays them the adoption fee and the neuter fee as well. That way he is not being given to them for free they will have to pay $150 for him. If they do not feel that strongly about him and do not want to pay the adoption fee and the neuter fee than we will most certainly pay it and keep him with us. We don't know what we are going to do yet, as really the decision is not mine. I appreciate everyone's suggestions but really he has not come to a decision yet. As for the bed and bowls they were the old dog's stuff that she was using for him. And I gave her some of our food and she still feeds it to him, I have went to see him and they have the Eagle Pack and are feeding it to him just as I did. This is a really painful decision that we are facing here and I know it will be hard to let him go if we decide to but I think whatever we do we are not doing out of convience of not having to care for him anymore it's for what is best for him. I don't think the lady was tyring to do anything sneaky by asking to buy him she just figured it was worth a shot. The kids were just being kids, not spoiled brats. I was the same way at their age and I do not blame them for being like they were. I don't think the mother and children had some "evil plan" put together to sucker me into giving them Maverick. Sorry my daughter is not feeling well and I haven't been home all day because she has been at the doctor's and unfortunetely we don't have a doctor where we just moved so I have to travel to the next state over (where we used to live) to see her regular doctor.

 

[love4dogs]

Ok, I know this is my third post but I am going to make it good. Julie is my tutor, I was the one the did bad on her account and now I have made my own. I have seen first hand the sacrifices that Julie has done for this puppy Maverick and what Maverick has put them through. I think they shouldn't have even took him to begin with should have sent him home with the people who originally adopted him, but unfortunetely her husband wouldn't allow it. There is a lot of stuff about him that she didn't tell you (or maybe didn't want to tell you). He has bit her daughter in the face numerous times and Julie just doesn't feel that he is safe around her anymore. He is aggressive to Hannah to the point where Hannah is afraid of him. She tries to work with him and he just falls further and further behind. I wouldn't blame Julie one bit for getting rid of him the first time he bit Emily he should have been gone. He causes nothing but troubles for them Julie is too nice of a person. Even after all the trouble I caused she still tutors me and is a friend to me. I may not know what I am talking about but I think Julie should put her daughter first. Julie has been wanting a poodle for a long time and I think she should let Maverick have his home that he has found and get her poodle. How many of you would keep a dog around after he has repeatedly bit your child (not a puppy playful bite a vicious bite)? All the work that Julie had to done with her daughter to get her to be not afraid of dogs went down the tubes when that dog bit her. Please do not be mean or made at them for making a good decision, they are doing the best for their daughter and the dog. That is all I have to say. I know if Julie gets rid of Maverick she might leave this forum and if she goes I will go too. I know I am new and have only posted three times but I will. She really enjoys this forum and I think that I will too but I have no problems standing by her choice.

 

[juliefurry]

Thanks for your support. I didn't know that I got through to you that much. I guess it's better that an outside source explains the Maverick problems. I didn't want to mention his faults but since you did yes he did have many faults that worried me concerning my Hannah and more importantly my daughter.

 

[skyhigh]

Oh,
Well, i didn' know about that. that changes the whole story. Im leaning towards getting a poodle. Emily will probably be scared of him now. Do what you think is best Julie

 

[avenlee]

First off, I hope your daughter is feeling better. I will stick by you with any decision you make. I hold the utmost respect for you and value your opinion and contribution to this forum. I think this thread took a whole new life of its own when really it was your family's sole decision to make.

 

[yuckaduck]

Julie you know my feelings and you know I will stick with you no matter what.

love4dogs you should not post things that are learned in confidence, Julie does have a big heart and I too knew of these problems. I felt it was Julie's place to post it though not mine. I take honesty in friendship very seriously and I think it may be best if you support your friends but not post for them. This is not meant to be mean at all just a friendly warning because there are some people who would be extrmemly angry with you if you did that to them. I think it is great for Julie to have a friend like you though.

 

[Fran27]

I agree with Yuck, although it makes us understand the problem better.

Julie, I know you won't change my mind about the family, children often behave like they do only because the parents encourage it. I don't have that much experience in children but I see my nephew all the time, and his parents just pass him anything. But that doesn't mean we don't understand the problem and we won't support you if you decide to give him to them, after all you never asked for that dog in the first place, and I'm sure he would be happy there.

I just hope you won't leave the forum if you decide not to get him back, NOBODY will resent you for that and I'm personally really looking forward to hearing about your adventures with your poodle.

 

[Becca_]

I'd understand you giving Maverick up, but it might be a good thing to explain the troubles you have had to that mother. It might be wiser to find Maverick a home with no small children and someone who can work with him. If I had a dog bite my child, I'd never give it up to someone with children. You have to think of the safety of your child but dont forget the safty of the other kids. If he bites them the mother might not be so caring and just have him put down.

 

[pig ears!]

Wow, I just got back on track with this thread. I read from page 4-8 and in the beginning, more people were saying that she should give the dog to the family. Then, as the posts went on, everyone was saying to take Mav back.

I totally agree. Mav was your dog from the beginning. You and your husband raised him and it was definitely not your fault he got lost. The family should have known that it was raised from another family by the way the pet acted. They should have called shelters or vets to see if any missing dogs were reported. They chose to act like they were going to keep him when it seems like they did not do any research.

I agree with posters saying that it is the mother's fault of why her kids were crying. Yes, I would feel bad taking the dog away but it would be MY DOG I would be taking back. They never raised it and Hannah would miss him too much. I coudn't just let some people keep my dog if they found it. There is no way.

 

[bogolove]

Maverick biting your daughter does change everything. If you are not happy with him, then you should find another home for him. I agree with Becca, though, that it may be best to find him a home with no children, unless you are absolutely certain he wouldn't bite them because the mother may have him put down if he bites them. Whatever you decide though, we will support your decision.