I am sorry if my last post was missunderstood. I was not saying that it is her responsibility to find them a new dog. What I meant was that if she was worried about the kids being hurt by her taking back her dog, then maybe she could find them a puppy to help ease her own hesitations to their reactions. While I totally agree that the end decision is her husbands, I will respect her for whatever decision she makes. It was just a suggestion made by my 4 kids as to how she could make herself feel better. Another idea would be for her to bring Maverick home for a few days, and see how he reacts to being there. If he does mope, appear sad, then maybe she could take him back to them.
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I remember when we found a huge male chocolate lab...I can't say I ever was really "attached" to him but he was interesting. When his owners came to get them they were so relieved. They had been looking for him for a few days and were worried sick. They're little daughter was so relieved to get her dog back. I felt glad that their dog was safe and sound and that he was going home.
just my opinion...but a lot of people on here are saying its so wrong for the mom to ask if they could buy mav from julie...
i have been taught (although i am terrible at doing this) that you cannot get anything unless you ask...
unless the mom was being very rude, and not at all understanding, and using her kids to manipulate julie by being like "c'mon, are you sure?? look how much my kids love him though...you have to sell him, blah blah" then i really dont see how it is wrong....
from julie's post, it seems like the mom asked...and then was understanding when julie refused.
anyways, that was just starting to bug me though
i have been taught (although i am terrible at doing this) that you cannot get anything unless you ask...
unless the mom was being very rude, and not at all understanding, and using her kids to manipulate julie by being like "c'mon, are you sure?? look how much my kids love him though...you have to sell him, blah blah" then i really dont see how it is wrong....
from julie's post, it seems like the mom asked...and then was understanding when julie refused.
anyways, that was just starting to bug me though
I don't think it's wrong that she asked necessarily. I totally understand what you are saying Dreeza and I wasn't there so I dont' really know.
I do think that you have to consider the consequences of what you are asking. She put Julie in a horrible position. She made her feel quilty for taking her dog back. Would you ask for something if it made someone else feel bad? You're right, you won't get it if you don't ask. But would you ask?
I do think that you have to consider the consequences of what you are asking. She put Julie in a horrible position. She made her feel quilty for taking her dog back. Would you ask for something if it made someone else feel bad? You're right, you won't get it if you don't ask. But would you ask?
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Very true Dreeza, I have chatted with Julie about this because she is abit torn at what to do and she said the lady simply asked to buy Maverick. Julie left him there because she wanted to discuss it with her husband and think about it. She was having problems with Maverick and it was to be her husbands choice. The lady never once complained about this, nor did she say now or never. She just said ok think about it he is here and he is safe for when the decision is made. Also remember that Julie and her husband did not get Maverick nor did they want him, he was dumped on them and before that Julie had planned to buy a poodle pup. I think, not positive but I think a down payment was made for a poodle pup and when Maverick was dumped on them she lost that down payment. So if it is decided to keep Maverick then I think that is very courageous to give up your wnats and dreams for a dog that was dumped on you. If you decide to let the lady have him then I think you are again very courageous and I also think it opens up the chance for your dreams and wants to take place again.
I agree with Saje.. I think it was rude to ask. She did it for her kids, but I really think she is just spoiling them. I don't know, I would feel terrible asking that from someone who lost their dog for several days though!
But yeah, I agree with Yuck, I'll totally understand if they decide to leave him there too.
But yeah, I agree with Yuck, I'll totally understand if they decide to leave him there too.
honestly, yes, i would...but i would never ever push it or anything...
you really never know what you may get by asking...one time when i was in europe with my parents, our flight was overbooked, and we werent allowed on...my dad was, but my mom and i were pretty much stuck...my dad randomly asked some guy if he could go on standby, and he agreed!! Course, maybe i had an influence, because i was totally terrified...i was a lot younger, and didnt really understand that another plane would come later...so i was crying, and i thought i was never going to see my dad again or something (wow, now that i look back on that...lol, i wasnt too smart or something)
I really dont think the mom was trying to make her feel guilty...i mean, after reading yuk's post, maybe this situation will allow julie to get her poodle that she wanted so badly.
if julie does decide to let them keep mav...i think there needs to be a LONG talk involved...a sort of 'screening' process...any bad vibes...then mav stays with julie for sure
you really never know what you may get by asking...one time when i was in europe with my parents, our flight was overbooked, and we werent allowed on...my dad was, but my mom and i were pretty much stuck...my dad randomly asked some guy if he could go on standby, and he agreed!! Course, maybe i had an influence, because i was totally terrified...i was a lot younger, and didnt really understand that another plane would come later...so i was crying, and i thought i was never going to see my dad again or something (wow, now that i look back on that...lol, i wasnt too smart or something)
I really dont think the mom was trying to make her feel guilty...i mean, after reading yuk's post, maybe this situation will allow julie to get her poodle that she wanted so badly.
if julie does decide to let them keep mav...i think there needs to be a LONG talk involved...a sort of 'screening' process...any bad vibes...then mav stays with julie for sure
sorry if my post came across as telling her to let him go, or imply that yuk was encouraging that, or that she has all the correct facts!...
i am just giving my opinion...i would never argue with what her and her husband's final decision is on this matter
and i am sometimes really optimisitic about people...so even before, it never crossed my mind that the mom could be trying to manipulate julie so she could spoil her kids...i like to think that people usually have good intentions (unless it is just so obviously bad, lol)
i am just giving my opinion...i would never argue with what her and her husband's final decision is on this matter
and i am sometimes really optimisitic about people...so even before, it never crossed my mind that the mom could be trying to manipulate julie so she could spoil her kids...i like to think that people usually have good intentions (unless it is just so obviously bad, lol)
I think it was comlpetely wrong of her to ask that and put Julie in that position. I would never ask someone if I could buy their child, and I would never ask someone if I could buy their dog. The only way that could even be feasibly to a point of not being rude and selfish is if you thought the dog and owner were suffering considerably by being together. That was not the case here. I think it was rude of that woman, selfish, and I dare someone to ever ask me if they could buy Brady. I will not be tactful, I will not be nice, and I will not be understanding. It is completely WRONG to teach your kids that their happiness is ok even if it comes from someone else suffering. Obviously these children are going to end up with the same lack of morals and empathy as their dimwitted mother. Sorry, but I think it is rude and I think it was wrong of that woman to put Julie in that position. Your family comes first, Julie, and those kids will get over it when their mom buys them some shiny new toy to dry their spoiled tears away.
If it were me, and I knew someone had Rocky; I'd go get him without a seconds thought. But that's probably cause the Rock and I have been through so much and I feel a strong connection with him.
And IMO, I think if anyone, Hannah needs him.
Maybe this was the case with Maverick but the fact that there was hesitation and things to be thought about; kinda makes me wonder... I hope whatever decision y'all decide to make is for the best.
And IMO, I think if anyone, Hannah needs him.
Maybe this was the case with Maverick but the fact that there was hesitation and things to be thought about; kinda makes me wonder... I hope whatever decision y'all decide to make is for the best.
If it was a ball she had lost,then its no big deal. But the childrens mom should be teaching them that this is someones family pet,not just an object they can ask for. But if they don't want the dog then go ahead and give it to the kids. Just make sure that if they get sick of it they have your number.
First of all in reference to the very first post, Julie you are not a bad owner with Maveric escaping!!! It happens to the best of us! I remember when OC was a pup I came home from school to find him sitting on the roof of a 1/2 built house with a bunch of construction workers on their break sharing sandwiches with him! The kennel door hadn't been closed properly and the gate was left open so he went on an adventure! Made for a funny story but wandering around a construction site like that I was very lucky he didn't end up getting hurt by the big machinery!
As for the lady requesting to keep mav, I think that's very childish on her part. She should be able to teach her kids that you can't just keep anything you find and not to get attached so quick to something that isn't yours. I'd bring OC home without a second thought. Heck I've had kids holding his collar for dear life and screaming that they want to keep him (happened at a dogsled race) and the parents prepared to lay down hundreds of $$$ for him and I was just like "Forget it!!!!!". The kids were seriously frantic and saying they loved him and needed him and the parents said I was greedy not to let him go and being so heartless in the face of a child and I was just like "Excuse me????? I'm a child myself and I've raised this boy from a puppy! He means more to me than anything. Tell you what, I'll trade you him for your oldest daughter!" That shut the parents up right quick and they stomped off. I was still in shock that they would even think I'd give him up just like that! My dog is my dog, end of story! He isn't even PARTIALLY my parents, 100% mine! My name's on his registry papers, i pay for everything, I care for him, I'm not just going to give up all that cause some parent allowed their kids to think he was theirs merely because he spent a night with them!
As for the lady requesting to keep mav, I think that's very childish on her part. She should be able to teach her kids that you can't just keep anything you find and not to get attached so quick to something that isn't yours. I'd bring OC home without a second thought. Heck I've had kids holding his collar for dear life and screaming that they want to keep him (happened at a dogsled race) and the parents prepared to lay down hundreds of $$$ for him and I was just like "Forget it!!!!!". The kids were seriously frantic and saying they loved him and needed him and the parents said I was greedy not to let him go and being so heartless in the face of a child and I was just like "Excuse me????? I'm a child myself and I've raised this boy from a puppy! He means more to me than anything. Tell you what, I'll trade you him for your oldest daughter!" That shut the parents up right quick and they stomped off. I was still in shock that they would even think I'd give him up just like that! My dog is my dog, end of story! He isn't even PARTIALLY my parents, 100% mine! My name's on his registry papers, i pay for everything, I care for him, I'm not just going to give up all that cause some parent allowed their kids to think he was theirs merely because he spent a night with them!
oh WOW, see now that is REDICULOUS...and that is totally not right...i dont want people to think i support that type of behavior!! that isnt the proper way to ask...
if it is done right, i dont think it is rude really. Even though it was obvious that julie had to care enough about mav to put up signs, the mom may have been hoping that maybe julie really didnt care all that much..or had financial issues, and would be almost relieved of the responsibility...
sorry, i dont know why the bashing of the mom is getting to me, lol, i just feel the need to defend her, since my initial reaction of her was that she went about it in a very civil way, and i dont have enough info to tell me anything otherwise, because it is not implied that the kids are spoiled, or that their mom was acting in a malicious manner (if thats the case, then i totally agree it is wrong)...most kids who love animals would become quickly attached to a dog they found...no matter how many times they are told not too...i think that is a tough thing for a kid to understand
anyways!
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The mother was very civil and was very understanding if Julie wants Maverick back there would be no problem and no hard feelings. She never mentioned the kids she just said if you ever want to get rid of Maverick it would be our pleasure to buy him. She never used any guilt tripping or anything. The problem is that Julie is not the one making the decision it is her husband so really Julie has no say either way. She only posts what she can and leaves the rest up to him. I have talked with Julie about this alot and she is stuck on the fence really. She wants him back because it is her responsibility; but he was destructive and he was not happy with her. She wants her poodle so bad, so maybe this is a blessing in disguise. Again it is strictly her husbands choice and until Julie posts the answer there is nothing really that we can do. I just hope if she posts that her husband choose to let them keep Maverick that no one gives Julie a hard time because she has suffered enough tragedy with loosing Shelby and loosing Mack. I think she really needs our support right now as her family and friends.
First off, I just have to say that no dollar amount in the world would convince me to sell or re-home one of my dogs. 100 crying children or not! In fact, if my dog went missing, I would probably have to check into a mental hospital until he or she was found! But, each of us has our different opinions and I can respect that. If you are even considering letting these people have Maverick then maybe he's not the right dog for you? You say it's your husband's decison, but it's really not. You guys live in the same home, share the same money and ultimatley have the same dogs. Besides, you did most of the raising and training with Maverick, so if anything you should have more of a bond with him.
Whatever you decide is your business, but I will remind you of one thing and that is a whole bunch of children crying over a dog is by no means a guarantee that he'll have a good home! What will they feed him? Will they neuter him? Are you sure? If the kids love dogs so much, then why don't they have one already? How do you know the excitement won't wear off and they will be sick of the work involved and he'll end up in a shelter again? I would be very concerned about his future with these people, afterall, you don't know them.
Good luck with you decision...
Whatever you decide is your business, but I will remind you of one thing and that is a whole bunch of children crying over a dog is by no means a guarantee that he'll have a good home! What will they feed him? Will they neuter him? Are you sure? If the kids love dogs so much, then why don't they have one already? How do you know the excitement won't wear off and they will be sick of the work involved and he'll end up in a shelter again? I would be very concerned about his future with these people, afterall, you don't know them.
Good luck with you decision...