So I'm trying to sort out 14 pages of thoughts into something that makes sense when I type it.
Everyone has remarked on the fact that Millan said "Oh, this could be a problem" when the dogs started posturing. I noticed that too, before he said it. Anyway, so what would you (general 'you') have done?
Me? I tend to freeze up just like he did. I have tried calling one of their names. If I'm lucky and get one of them to look at me, generally the other dog immediately jumps on the dog who just looked/moved away. I have used the water hose, it works, when you are in the vicinity of one. I have tried grabbing a leash and trying to somehow wrap it around one dog and drag it away, that usually doesn't work for me. I would honestly like some other advice on this type of scenario. What do you do in that instant where you see it coming?
I am not a Cesar supporter by any means. My mom bought two of his books for me and I did read them, if nothing else to figure out what the hell he's thinking. I do not get NatGeo, but I have watched the show. I agree, he cannot read dogs. His idea of 'calm submissive' is a scared/shut down dog. You want a lesson in calming signals? Watch Dog Whisperer.
He has mellowed a little in the newest episodes I have caught. Still uses the same methods, but he does seem to promote positive training more often.
The idea of flooding was brought up. While I'm not a fan of flooding a few well respected people on here use a version of flooding. Its the CAT method. Flood the dog with something it hates/is scared of then remove said scary thing when the dog ceases reacting. IMO this is a type of flooding. While it is taken a lot slower and more calculated than what Cesar does, it's still a type of flooding.
Millan DOES offer some good advice. Exercise your dog. A lot. Also, NILIF. Of course, does JQP get the message? Probably not, but that's because Cesar doesn't explain it well, or at all. He offers plenty of bad advice as well.
Lots of people mentioned being ticked that they would air the fight scene. Well, I'm kinda w/ Bahamutt on this, until I have seen a clip of the actual episode I'm not 100% sure it was aired on TV. The clip we all saw could be an extra, or something that slipped out on the internet. There may be missing elements that we didn't see. What I saw wasn't good, but a dog fight can break out anywhere, anytime.
Is it bad for pit bulls? I don't really know. Is it better to NEVER show what can happen when two mature pit bulls don't get along? Is it better to shield the public from the breed's past or hide the fact that many PB owners DO seperate their dogs? Everyone *should* research a breed before getting one, but we all know that a lot of people don't.
ETA- He doesn't say no dog needs love, or anything like that. What he said is "Love and affection come after exercise and discipline" Basically "Positive is not permissive"
Everyone has remarked on the fact that Millan said "Oh, this could be a problem" when the dogs started posturing. I noticed that too, before he said it. Anyway, so what would you (general 'you') have done?
Me? I tend to freeze up just like he did. I have tried calling one of their names. If I'm lucky and get one of them to look at me, generally the other dog immediately jumps on the dog who just looked/moved away. I have used the water hose, it works, when you are in the vicinity of one. I have tried grabbing a leash and trying to somehow wrap it around one dog and drag it away, that usually doesn't work for me. I would honestly like some other advice on this type of scenario. What do you do in that instant where you see it coming?
I am not a Cesar supporter by any means. My mom bought two of his books for me and I did read them, if nothing else to figure out what the hell he's thinking. I do not get NatGeo, but I have watched the show. I agree, he cannot read dogs. His idea of 'calm submissive' is a scared/shut down dog. You want a lesson in calming signals? Watch Dog Whisperer.
He has mellowed a little in the newest episodes I have caught. Still uses the same methods, but he does seem to promote positive training more often.
The idea of flooding was brought up. While I'm not a fan of flooding a few well respected people on here use a version of flooding. Its the CAT method. Flood the dog with something it hates/is scared of then remove said scary thing when the dog ceases reacting. IMO this is a type of flooding. While it is taken a lot slower and more calculated than what Cesar does, it's still a type of flooding.
Millan DOES offer some good advice. Exercise your dog. A lot. Also, NILIF. Of course, does JQP get the message? Probably not, but that's because Cesar doesn't explain it well, or at all. He offers plenty of bad advice as well.
Lots of people mentioned being ticked that they would air the fight scene. Well, I'm kinda w/ Bahamutt on this, until I have seen a clip of the actual episode I'm not 100% sure it was aired on TV. The clip we all saw could be an extra, or something that slipped out on the internet. There may be missing elements that we didn't see. What I saw wasn't good, but a dog fight can break out anywhere, anytime.
Is it bad for pit bulls? I don't really know. Is it better to NEVER show what can happen when two mature pit bulls don't get along? Is it better to shield the public from the breed's past or hide the fact that many PB owners DO seperate their dogs? Everyone *should* research a breed before getting one, but we all know that a lot of people don't.
ETA- He doesn't say no dog needs love, or anything like that. What he said is "Love and affection come after exercise and discipline" Basically "Positive is not permissive"