Cruel neighbor hurt Mocha!! I'm SO MAD!!

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Oh, give her a break. I've had nuts neighbors, haven't we all? She's a Chazzer, so we should give her and her suspicions the benefit of the doubt. She's decided not to call the police about the neighbors, it's not like she's running down the street being a nutcase. She's emotional and upset because her dog got hurt. I can relate to that.

Wow is all I can say to that.

There are times when, if you have nothing generous to say, it's decent to keep your thoughts to yourself.

It's a good thing she didn't call the police as they have better things to do. I can understand she is emotional and upset her dog got hurt... but she flew off the handle and deduced that her neighbor somehow lured the dog in the house and torturously clipped its nails too short. That is simply ridiculous in my opinion.

I think that a part of the reason she is so upset is because she does understand that ultimately whatever happened to the dog is due to the fact that it was not properly fenced in and/or supervised.

That is the real lesson here. Make sure your pooch is fenced in.
 

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How long was the dog out left alone anyhow? Also a vet confirmed it was most likle NOT an accident. And looked something like nail clippers. So give her a break.

Also I am wondering why the police were not called. Also just follow the blood trail back to wherever it came from and you will most likely have your answer. Good luck getting to the bottom of this.

Sad thing is that mean people like that DO exist.
 

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It's a good thing she didn't call the police as they have better things to do. I can understand she is emotional and upset her dog got hurt... but she flew off the handle and deduced that her neighbor somehow lured the dog in the house and torturously clipped its nails too short. That is simply ridiculous in my opinion.

I think that a part of the reason she is so upset is because she does understand that ultimately whatever happened to the dog is due to the fact that it was not properly fenced in and/or supervised.

That is the real lesson here. Make sure your pooch is fenced in.

it's wonderful to have an opinion. it's wonderful to have the freedom to voice your opinion. However, we aren't always blessed with the common sense to not voice every opinion we have. Is belittling her making this situation better? I think not. If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all :D

Obviously she has fixed the fence and taken action against something like this ever happening again. We may not always agree on everything but deep down we are all dog lovers and should treat each other with respect because some day you are going to be in a less than desirable situation and I hope no one makes a post like yours towards you.
 

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it's wonderful to have an opinion. it's wonderful to have the freedom to voice your opinion. However, we aren't always blessed with the common sense to not voice every opinion we have. Is belittling her making this situation better? I think not. If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all :D

Obviously she has fixed the fence and taken action against something like this ever happening again. We may not always agree on everything but deep down we are all dog lovers and should treat each other with respect because some day you are going to be in a less than desirable situation and I hope no one makes a post like yours towards you.
I agree. I wish people would have more compassion for others.
 

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and im telling you, nails that are worn down to the point that they bleed, are straight and flat - and wear down evenly.

nail trims NEVER come out evenly, take it froms someone who trims nails every single day. nails come out splintery (unless of course, your neighbor also chose to not only quick the nails, but them dremel afterwards).

my dog has worn his nails down to the point of bleeding numerous times - in fact, with every session of fetch he tends to have at least one bleeding.
 

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my dog has worn his nails down to the point of bleeding numerous times - in fact, with every session of fetch he tends to have at least one bleeding.
that's not "normal" :( I hope he's not hurting ;)
 

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Again how long was the dog left out? It takes more than5-10 mins to wear down nails. And I've seen vet clips my dogs nails and they were even. Maybe there clippers were sharper I don't know...
 

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Again how long was the dog left out? It takes more than5-10 mins to wear down nails.
Not if the dog was running on a rough surface--that's all it would take to tear up a dog's nails, if they weren't being especially careful, or if the nails were long to begin with.
 

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Thanks for all the comments. I stated it very clear on my first post that I just needed someone to listen to me at the time, because I was too disturbed and shaken by the sight of blood, and my strembling wet little boy. I had just got back from the emergency vet, and he was the one who told me that it looked more likely his nails were cut than an accident. That, and the way I found Mocha running from the neighbor's house was just too much for me.

It has become a morning routine that Mocha & Missy were let out to do their business, and they always came back right away. Something must have tempted Mocha to venture into the front and got lost into the neighbor's side (I've never said that the neighbor lured him there), and got hurt. Well, I may never know for sure what has happened to Mocha that morning. The only thing I know for sure is it will never happen again ever.

By the way, my husband came over to the neighbor today and asked about this. You know what they said? "We don't know, and we don't care. It's your dog, you have to take care of it. We didn't see nor hear anything that morning". My husband initially thought I was nut and over-reacted when I told him I suspected the neighbor, but after this confrontation, he was more sure than I am that the neighbor did it!

Once again, thanks for all the well wishes. Mocha is doing well (he doesn't let me touch his paws yet though :(, I just hope that it doesn't have any lasting effect on the way he trusts his people.
 

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Poor puppy. :( I'm sorry you & Mocha had to go through this. Hopefully he will be feeling better soon!!

I know how it feels to have a wierd neighbor that you cannot trust. The best thing you can do for your pups is watch them while they are outside. Now that Mocha has gone exploring, he will probably continue to roam. Thankfully, he wasn't injured more seriously, like hit by a car! I also would be cautious about keeping my dogs outdoors alone in an unlocked pen, when your yard is not fully fenced in. IMO, it would be safer if they stayed inside during the day.
 

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I hope Mocha is feeling better. I am sorry that some people felt the need to be so cruel to you on this thread. There is nothing more scary then having your baby hurt!
 
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sparks19 said:
If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all
I am curious why you have not yet posted the same advice to others in this thread that have said bad things about the neighbor??? They are blasting the neighbor with absolutely no proof as to what happened. I think your advice applies to them as well...
 
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I agree. I wish people would have more compassion for others.
I see no compassion for the neighbors. Some have decided to believe that the neighbors lured the dog into the house and torturously clipped its nails to the point of bleeding. They have gone on to absolutely blast the neighbors. How is that compassion?
 

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I see no compassion for the neighbors. Some have decided to believe that the neighbors lured the dog into the house and torturously clipped its nails to the point of bleeding. They have gone on to absolutely blast the neighbors. How is that compassion?
I never stated anything negative toward the neighbors. I, like the rest of us, don't know what happened to Mocha. It's no use biting someone's head off about anything. The OP hasn't done anything wrong. She's just concerned for her dog.
 
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I never stated anything negative toward the neighbors. I, like the rest of us, don't know what happened to Mocha. It's no use biting someone's head off about anything. The OP hasn't done anything wrong. She's just concerned for her dog.
In post #9 of this very thread you stated:

"But still, I can't believe someone would hurt an innocent animal! It makes me so mad! If it were my dog I'd flip out and march over there!!"

Again you stated you would "flip out and march over there". You clearly have come to the conclusion that the neighbors lured the dog to them and then torturously clipped his nails too short.

Deciding that someone tortured a dog is clearly a negative statement about that person. There is absolutely no evidence anything of the sort happened. I find it absolutely ridiculous anyone would believe such a cockamamie story.

I feel bad that the dog was hurt. I would never want to see someone's beloved pet injured. But it does happen. And going off the deep end with some crazy drama about what transipred does not at all help the situation. It only makes it worse. The real reason the dog was injured is because it was not properly fenced in and/or supervised. That is the real lesson to be learned here.
 

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I can't deny I said that, I said that before I read thoroughly and found out what really happened. I have a different view now. The OP made it sound like someone was torturing her dog and she saw it. Now I know no one knows what happened. Poor dog, but I have no idea how Mocha was hurt and I withdraw my conclusion.
 
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M&M's Mommy said:
Thanks for all the comments. I stated it very clear on my first post that I just needed someone to listen to me at the time, because I was too disturbed and shaken by the sight of blood, and my strembling wet little boy.
No you really didn't. You titled the thread "Cruel neighbor hurt mocha". You then went on to immediately pass judgement that your neighbor tortured your dog.


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(I've never said that the neighbor lured him there)
The neighbor would have had to lure your dog there. You were outside calling his name. If your dog was trained well (which I am assuming he must surely be), he would have come when you called him if he was outside. You immediately went by your neighbors house and were calling for the dog. He didn't come, which means he wasn't in the neighbors yard. Now you and others are walking around the neighborhood looking for the dog. If the neighbor was indeed torturing your dog, it had to have been inside the neighbors house or garage. Some type of enclosed area - else you would have heard the dog yelping in excrutiating pain.

When you first went by the neighbors house, the dog was not there. Where do you presume the dog was at this time? If it was outside in the neighbors yard, why didn't he come when called?

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By the way, my husband came over to the neighbor today and asked about this. You know what they said? "We don't know, and we don't care. It's your dog, you have to take care of it. We didn't see nor hear anything that morning". My husband initially thought I was nut and over-reacted when I told him I suspected the neighbor, but after this confrontation, he was more sure than I am that the neighbor did it!
You blame your neighbors for not being friendly. I promise they feel the same way about you. You don't even know their names. You have never gone over there to introduce yourself. That is not very neighborly or friendly in my opinion. I would bet that your husband went over there with an accusatory and confrontational attitude. Remember - they have the same perception of you as you have of them. They more than likely feel the same way about you - that you are not very friendly neighbors. How would you feel if they came over to your house with a very confrontationl and accusatory attitude about something? My guess is you would not be that friendly to them - as they weren't to your husband.

I am glad your dog is feeling better, and I hope he makes a quick and complete recovery.
 
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Momof2Pups said:
I can't deny I said that, I said that before I read thoroughly and found out what really happened. I have a different view now. The OP made it sound like someone was torturing her dog and she saw it. Now I know no one knows what happened. Poor dog, but I have no idea how Mocha was hurt and I withdraw my conclusion.
You did deny you said anything negative - until I reminded you that you did.

The OP NEVER made it sound like she saw someone torturing her dog. How in the world did you come to that conclusion when the OP stated:

"I wanted so badly to report this neighbor to the police or animal control, but I have no evidence. Anyone in her household could have done this, and I have no proof."

You and a few others jumped on the bandwagon with the "mob mentality" that the neighbor tortured this dog. You and others were emotional about the story. I understand. It happens.

The most important thing here is that the dog is feeling better and that the owner has taken the proper steps to ensure the dogs are adequately fenced in. (Which if they were to begin with, this injury never would have happened.)
 
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stickner, all threads aren't created equal. Some are simple question & answers, some are debates, and some are emotional sinks. This one was clearly a case of someone looking for sympathy and kindness in a painful situation. I realize the tone might not be to your liking, but you could have just avoided the whole thing by shrugging and going on to something else. There's no reason anyone here has to be 'fair' to the neighbors. The OP hasn't done anything to them other than suspect them of being creepy. She hasn't accused them, called the police, gone running to other neighbors to 'tell' on them, etc. People come here to blow off steam sometimes, and get some sympathetic noises from others, and pull themselves back together. I can understand if you don't particularly like the emotion and upset of this sort of thread - they sometimes bother me too - but I don't understand why you've been so determined to take everyone to task. You've been calling the OP an accusatory drama queen with a cockamamie story and an untrained dog, complained that various other people were wrong to side with the OP, and bitched unmercifully about fencing. It's one thing to argue that maybe people should give the neighbors the benefit of the doubt - attacking a fellow poster over it is another thing.
 
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