Chow Chow Attack
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I believe that Sarah breeds or use to breed and show Chow Chow's so she has more knowledge available than Manchesters does. Not sure on that but I think that is what she means. Perhaps when she comes on later she would clarify that for us so we know for sure whether it is Sarah who knows more or Manchesters who knows more. I'm pretty sure it is Sarah with the more knowledge though.
Lea,
The point Manchesters is trying to make has nothing to do with which one of them knows more. The point I think she is trying to make is Sarah believes there is only one thing to do with the dog. Manchesters tried to say it without really saying it in text. So just read between the lines.
Not that I agree or disagree, but just wanting you to understand.
Julie.
Manchesters
The point Manchesters is trying to make has nothing to do with which one of them knows more. The point I think she is trying to make is Sarah believes there is only one thing to do with the dog. Manchesters tried to say it without really saying it in text. So just read between the lines.
Not that I agree or disagree, but just wanting you to understand.
Julie.
Manchesters
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Sarah Heartbroken????????????/
There are some things denser than moonrock, I see.
Think about it, folks. The dog has become dangerous in spite of whatever the owner may have done or not done. The dog is only going to get more vicious with the passing of time. No trainer is going to bother with a dog like this because they know there is no redemption possible. The only safe and humane thing is to put the dog to sleep.
Now.......if the owner wants to try neutering, well....hey, go for it. But this type of aggression has already been allowed to get programmed into the dog's brain, and the chances of getting rid of the testosterone changing this behavior is slim. And the damage a dog like this can do to either an adult or a child is great. Too much of a risk to take. Tens of thousands of dollars in lawsuits is also a great risk.
Put it to sleep.
LEA said:
o i get it....
thanx
o my...didnt think it would come to that
poor sara must be heartbroken
thanx
o my...didnt think it would come to that
poor sara must be heartbroken
Think about it, folks. The dog has become dangerous in spite of whatever the owner may have done or not done. The dog is only going to get more vicious with the passing of time. No trainer is going to bother with a dog like this because they know there is no redemption possible. The only safe and humane thing is to put the dog to sleep.
Now.......if the owner wants to try neutering, well....hey, go for it. But this type of aggression has already been allowed to get programmed into the dog's brain, and the chances of getting rid of the testosterone changing this behavior is slim. And the damage a dog like this can do to either an adult or a child is great. Too much of a risk to take. Tens of thousands of dollars in lawsuits is also a great risk.
Put it to sleep.
P.S. Back in the late 50s when we were looking for a family dog, Tom and I had a real battle. I knew and loved golden Retrievers, in 1954 we got a Boxer, because he wanted a more " motcho " dog.. After he died in 1956, he wanted to get another dog too... all dogs I knew COULD be problems if and when we had children ....I couldn't bear the thought of having losing another dog because of temperment. He thought Goldens were " whimps" ....I said I like " Whimps "!! Anyway, I won out and we had our 1st golden ( my second) before our children came along. Yes, Chows are very beautiful animals ....I love them, but I was not ready to take the chance of maybe having to give up a family member.
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Perhaps
Sarah IS a behavoior expert. As am I. Now there is a chance that this dog is just full of b.s. and if a trainer works with him without the owners around it might be helped. It won't be fun to watch, but there are some things that can be tried. IF they can find a trainer willing to take on a two year old Chow.
Most vets won't even accept a dog like this as a client. And it would be really interesting to hear what a "behavior expert" would do.
The help should have been sought 1 1/2 years ago.
Sarah IS a behavoior expert. As am I. Now there is a chance that this dog is just full of b.s. and if a trainer works with him without the owners around it might be helped. It won't be fun to watch, but there are some things that can be tried. IF they can find a trainer willing to take on a two year old Chow.
Most vets won't even accept a dog like this as a client. And it would be really interesting to hear what a "behavior expert" would do.
The help should have been sought 1 1/2 years ago.
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Smkie...I worked at a boarding kennel for 11 years and based on my personal experience with the Chows we boarded, this is where I've formed my opinion. I know that in a kennel a dog is out of it's element and there is some stress involved but I always gave extra effort to befriend the unfriendly. It was always a "no-go" with the Chows. Every single one of them would have bitten your face off if given half the chance.
In keeping with the subject of the post, though, if it was my dog and I loved it, I would do everything possible to alter the behavior before using the last resort (euthanasia).
Pam
In keeping with the subject of the post, though, if it was my dog and I loved it, I would do everything possible to alter the behavior before using the last resort (euthanasia).
Pam
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But folks such as you or I come to this from a different perspecitve. If it WERE you, the problem would have never been allowed to develop. This owner is not going to find anyone to help him, unless he can get Caesar to come help him! You can bet this is a badly bred dog, with horrid temperament. It is a shame, but true. If the O.P. can afford a few lawsuits then he can afford to make the effort to take a last resort. Just what would you suggest, beyond neutering. Any training is going to have to involve physical confrontation between the trainer and the dog. And is going to cost boocoo bucks! IF they can find a competent trainer who will not just make matters worse.
This is a sad situation, and results purely from dog people not being able to reach out and educate the public, and the proliferation of back yard PUPPY PRODUCERS on the internet. These people do not even deserve to be called breeders.
The general public knows nothing about breed clubs, breed standards, temperament requirements, socialization, puppy raising, etc. It is overwhelming to even think about attempting to do all of this. Where do you start? Perhaps a pet column in the local newspapers??
I just hate to think of this dog injuring someone...ever. In the hands of the owner, this dog is a deadly weapon. No fault of the owner.......he/she just does not know. And there is no way to know how much of what we suggest is able to be absorbed?
It is a really drastic situation.
This is a sad situation, and results purely from dog people not being able to reach out and educate the public, and the proliferation of back yard PUPPY PRODUCERS on the internet. These people do not even deserve to be called breeders.
The general public knows nothing about breed clubs, breed standards, temperament requirements, socialization, puppy raising, etc. It is overwhelming to even think about attempting to do all of this. Where do you start? Perhaps a pet column in the local newspapers??
I just hate to think of this dog injuring someone...ever. In the hands of the owner, this dog is a deadly weapon. No fault of the owner.......he/she just does not know. And there is no way to know how much of what we suggest is able to be absorbed?
It is a really drastic situation.
Probably nemeysys is in a state of shock!! coming onto the site asking for advice and being told to put their dog to sleep, personally, and no insults intended here, if I was given this advice, I would probably ignor it and try my best to find someone qualified to help my in my situation. at the end of the day, we all of us, on here only know what people tell us about themselves, we do not have proof of their stated qualifications nor of their experience. so to go and do something so drastic as putting your dog to sleep on the advices of someone you dont know is I feel unrealistic.
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Geesh, if a vet won't accept this dog as a client how is he to go about doing the whole PTS business?
PLEASE bring your dog to a vet and MAKE SURE it isn't a medical reason for this recent aggression. Your dog may be in pain or sick and the only way to determine if that is where the aggression is coming from is to take it to a vet.
PLEASE bring your dog to a vet and MAKE SURE it isn't a medical reason for this recent aggression. Your dog may be in pain or sick and the only way to determine if that is where the aggression is coming from is to take it to a vet.
I would at least take this step first, just to check it out. There's a huge mastiff I'm working with right now that was an absolute horror before and after her knee surgery; you couldn't get near the kennel to let her outside. But now after it's healed (and she realizes that she can't bully you) she's a darling dog.
Hey, maybe the thread starter should call Ceasar Milan (The Dog Whisperer) and see if he can help.
But do keep in mind, that some dogs really are beyond help and will have to be put down.
Hey, maybe the thread starter should call Ceasar Milan (The Dog Whisperer) and see if he can help.
But do keep in mind, that some dogs really are beyond help and will have to be put down.