Chow Chow Attack
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Maybe because there's some shred of truth to it? Nobody is insinuating that they are ALL "nasty" but from those in the know it was stated that you must know what you are doing with the breed before getting one.
Rotties and Pits share an equally notorious rep. but as people in here know, they do not deserve it. Chows, on the other hand, are a "horse" of a different color.
Pam
Rotties and Pits share an equally notorious rep. but as people in here know, they do not deserve it. Chows, on the other hand, are a "horse" of a different color.
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Unfortunately......
Those NOT in the know have no concept of what is being dealt with here. Chows are not little Mimis or Fifis. When one is allowed to get away with attacking people, and is not dealt with appropriately, there is no turning back. It will not get better. This dog has displayed behavior typical for 2 year old mutt Chow breeding.
I have not seen ONE post that shows even an IOTA of understanding of this situation. Not one other poster has had any experience dealing with a situation like this.......and has nothing to offer, but they sure can criticize.....based on NOTHING.
If the O.P. wrote that his/her two year old son keeps getting their 9mm and playing with it, and shooting at other people without warning, I wonder what all the politically correct posters would have to say????? This dog is exactly the same thing as a loaded gun, and equally as potentially dangerous.
THIS IS NOT A DOG THAT A CASUAL PET OWNER SHOULD HAVE AROUND. What part of that does not make sense????? No one is going to take the dog to re-home it. No trainer will get near a truly dangerous dog. So, other than some lame posts about taking it to a vet to see if it is in pain (that suggestion was HALF right, anyway...at least about taking it the vet.....only for a different reason).
So come on, folks. Let's hear some solid suggestions. Let's hear what this person can look forward to with this dog!!! Let's go, go, go!!!
Those NOT in the know have no concept of what is being dealt with here. Chows are not little Mimis or Fifis. When one is allowed to get away with attacking people, and is not dealt with appropriately, there is no turning back. It will not get better. This dog has displayed behavior typical for 2 year old mutt Chow breeding.
I have not seen ONE post that shows even an IOTA of understanding of this situation. Not one other poster has had any experience dealing with a situation like this.......and has nothing to offer, but they sure can criticize.....based on NOTHING.
If the O.P. wrote that his/her two year old son keeps getting their 9mm and playing with it, and shooting at other people without warning, I wonder what all the politically correct posters would have to say????? This dog is exactly the same thing as a loaded gun, and equally as potentially dangerous.
THIS IS NOT A DOG THAT A CASUAL PET OWNER SHOULD HAVE AROUND. What part of that does not make sense????? No one is going to take the dog to re-home it. No trainer will get near a truly dangerous dog. So, other than some lame posts about taking it to a vet to see if it is in pain (that suggestion was HALF right, anyway...at least about taking it the vet.....only for a different reason).
So come on, folks. Let's hear some solid suggestions. Let's hear what this person can look forward to with this dog!!! Let's go, go, go!!!
M
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Good grief!!!!! I know some folks are inexperienced in dealing with homicidal dogs but........the vet hands the owner a muzzle and has the OWNER put it on the dog. Simple, huh?????
And by all means, take a homicidal Chow to a vet's office. But be sure to wait out in the car. Anyone seeing its behavior would likely call Animal Control and report it as a dangerous dog.......WHICH BY THE WAY IT IS??!!
Good grief!!!!! I know some folks are inexperienced in dealing with homicidal dogs but........the vet hands the owner a muzzle and has the OWNER put it on the dog. Simple, huh?????
And by all means, take a homicidal Chow to a vet's office. But be sure to wait out in the car. Anyone seeing its behavior would likely call Animal Control and report it as a dangerous dog.......WHICH BY THE WAY IT IS??!!
Shame on you Manchester, this dog could have a medical problem and be in some serious pain. It needs to be seen by a vet to determine the correct course of action. You have no place to suggested dismissing this option...or can't you wrap your head around the idea that a dog in pain can become aggressive? Did you read his first post? The dog has been socialized around a lot of different people and always had good manners. I understand that 2 is maturity for a breed this size but that does not mean that there isn't an underlying medical problem to be dealt with.
EDIT to add: original poster didn't claim whether or not the dog had been nuetered so maybe he has been. Also states all of sudden dog will just sit in the corner wanting to be left alone after it had always been friendly and social. Did you read the post at all or just jump on the "slam the Chow" bandwagon?
EDIT to add: original poster didn't claim whether or not the dog had been nuetered so maybe he has been. Also states all of sudden dog will just sit in the corner wanting to be left alone after it had always been friendly and social. Did you read the post at all or just jump on the "slam the Chow" bandwagon?
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Good Morning to you too, lol.
Since you seem to have never seen a Chow in pain, let me explain it to you........if you can envision a cat with its tail on fire, that is how Chows react to pain. Pure, unadultered PANIC. It will scream if you try to make it move and that movement causes pain. It will scream if it even thinks you are GOING to make it move, rofl. And then it will eat you to pieces. We are dealing with typical 2 year old male behavior. It is asserting itself, and so far nothing has been done to curtail this behavior. It has been going on for a month that the O.P. is aware of.
The O.P. can certainly do whatever he/she feels is right. BUT nothing is going to change for the better. It will only escalate.
Good Morning to you too, lol.
Since you seem to have never seen a Chow in pain, let me explain it to you........if you can envision a cat with its tail on fire, that is how Chows react to pain. Pure, unadultered PANIC. It will scream if you try to make it move and that movement causes pain. It will scream if it even thinks you are GOING to make it move, rofl. And then it will eat you to pieces. We are dealing with typical 2 year old male behavior. It is asserting itself, and so far nothing has been done to curtail this behavior. It has been going on for a month that the O.P. is aware of.
The O.P. can certainly do whatever he/she feels is right. BUT nothing is going to change for the better. It will only escalate.
Good Morning to you too! Just because some chows (and you couldn't have met them all) have that kind of reaction to pain doesn't mean all will. A lot of dogs will not show signs of pain because they don't want to appear weak, weakness=death for most dogs. I just think it was rather obtuse of you to recommend such a severe charge to a dog you don't know all the in's and out's about. Reading on a forum and interacting with the dog in real life are two very different circumstances. You just can't make a good judgment call via the internet on problems like this. That is why the dog should be taken to a vet, someone qualified to rule out other problems first before making such a final decision as having the dog PTS.
M
But........
Then the poster should not have waited a month if his/her dog were in pain. As in my other post......if a Chow is in pain, people WILL know about it. And if that pain is bad enough to make the dog aggressive, you can be sure people will know. It is possible the dog might have a brain tumor. Or it could be because of generations of BYBing with no attention paid to temperament.
And most EVERY male Chow when it hits the magic 2 year old point will try to challenge its owner. Even the best bred ones. It is typical behavior. If the owner quashes the challenge, that ends the problem. If not, the result is a treacherous dog. It is not an option to leave this problem in the hands of an inexperienced pet owner.
Then the poster should not have waited a month if his/her dog were in pain. As in my other post......if a Chow is in pain, people WILL know about it. And if that pain is bad enough to make the dog aggressive, you can be sure people will know. It is possible the dog might have a brain tumor. Or it could be because of generations of BYBing with no attention paid to temperament.
And most EVERY male Chow when it hits the magic 2 year old point will try to challenge its owner. Even the best bred ones. It is typical behavior. If the owner quashes the challenge, that ends the problem. If not, the result is a treacherous dog. It is not an option to leave this problem in the hands of an inexperienced pet owner.
M
Don't Mind Me!!
The squirrels have stopped leaping off bird feeders, and life has become rather dull around here, lol.
You are correct...it is impossible to know every dog of every breed. BUT when one reads of a behavior that is TYPICAL for the breed, that makes it very easy to recognize. And to realize that this is not something that the average pet owner is mentally, emotionally or pschologically equiped to deal with.
I would love for the owner to take the dog to the vet, providing he/she can afford a few thousand dollars for tests that will provide no information. Except perhaps a brain scan showing a tumor.
As I said, Chows "don't do" pain....period. It would be clear to all around this dog if it were in physical pain. They are cowards when it comes to pain. There is not a stoic bone in any Chows body, rofl.
My concern is for those this dog may end up maiming. As I said about the loaded gun.....this is a dangerous situation that needs to be ended.
I have expressed my opinion......and that of Sarah.......who is an expert on the breed and on 2 year old males. So....I will put my soapbox away. Since the O.P. has no clue as to the danger involved, someone had to put forth the warning. Nobody else here did, so I felt it behoved me to do so.
The squirrels have stopped leaping off bird feeders, and life has become rather dull around here, lol.
You are correct...it is impossible to know every dog of every breed. BUT when one reads of a behavior that is TYPICAL for the breed, that makes it very easy to recognize. And to realize that this is not something that the average pet owner is mentally, emotionally or pschologically equiped to deal with.
I would love for the owner to take the dog to the vet, providing he/she can afford a few thousand dollars for tests that will provide no information. Except perhaps a brain scan showing a tumor.
As I said, Chows "don't do" pain....period. It would be clear to all around this dog if it were in physical pain. They are cowards when it comes to pain. There is not a stoic bone in any Chows body, rofl.
My concern is for those this dog may end up maiming. As I said about the loaded gun.....this is a dangerous situation that needs to be ended.
I have expressed my opinion......and that of Sarah.......who is an expert on the breed and on 2 year old males. So....I will put my soapbox away. Since the O.P. has no clue as to the danger involved, someone had to put forth the warning. Nobody else here did, so I felt it behoved me to do so.
So by suggesting to the O.P. that he muzzle the dog until it can be evaluated we were not clear enough that the dog was acting in a dangerous manner? As for the stoic part the breed is known to be stoic...if they had shown signs of pain they would never have been used the way they were when they were first developed over 2,000 years ago.
"More than 2,000 years old, the Chow was bred to be an all-around working dog capable of surviving in a hostile environment. Hunting, herding, guarding, pulling sleds the Chow could do it all. First kept by fierce Mongolian tribes in China as a hunting and guard dog."
I will now step off of MY soapbox as well. All the information has been presented and I can only hope the O.P. can make the right decision for their dog.
"More than 2,000 years old, the Chow was bred to be an all-around working dog capable of surviving in a hostile environment. Hunting, herding, guarding, pulling sleds the Chow could do it all. First kept by fierce Mongolian tribes in China as a hunting and guard dog."
I will now step off of MY soapbox as well. All the information has been presented and I can only hope the O.P. can make the right decision for their dog.
M
One little detail.......
Some things do seem insurmountable at times.........but..........I hate to be the one to point it out, but this is 2000 years LATER, and Chows are now being bred either for showing or to make money. Their genetics are being manipulated and controlled by humans. 2000 years ago the dogs were allowed to run together and kill each other off until only the strongest survived and bred.
Chows have NO tolerance for pain.....period. And in reacting, they will try to eat whatever or whomever is closest. B!tches will try to kill their puppies while giving birth, because the pain response over rides any other part of their brains!!!!! You really can trust me on this one! If not, try Sarah, lol. Although I doubt she would even respond. Her attitude is........They will learn.......one way or the other they will learn.........just hope no one gets killed while they are learning.
For a moment I thought a squirrel was going to take the plunge (literally!) but he turned around and hopped back off the feeder onto the branch. Whewwww......he was on the 30 foot high feeder. I just like watching their destructive, thieving butts slide off thru the air. I wouldn't want any of them to really get hurt. Then I would have to waste money taking a spastic squirrel to the vet. UUUgghhhhh!
Oh.....your soapbox seems to be missing a few nails. (Roflolololololololololol)
Some things do seem insurmountable at times.........but..........I hate to be the one to point it out, but this is 2000 years LATER, and Chows are now being bred either for showing or to make money. Their genetics are being manipulated and controlled by humans. 2000 years ago the dogs were allowed to run together and kill each other off until only the strongest survived and bred.
Chows have NO tolerance for pain.....period. And in reacting, they will try to eat whatever or whomever is closest. B!tches will try to kill their puppies while giving birth, because the pain response over rides any other part of their brains!!!!! You really can trust me on this one! If not, try Sarah, lol. Although I doubt she would even respond. Her attitude is........They will learn.......one way or the other they will learn.........just hope no one gets killed while they are learning.
For a moment I thought a squirrel was going to take the plunge (literally!) but he turned around and hopped back off the feeder onto the branch. Whewwww......he was on the 30 foot high feeder. I just like watching their destructive, thieving butts slide off thru the air. I wouldn't want any of them to really get hurt. Then I would have to waste money taking a spastic squirrel to the vet. UUUgghhhhh!
Oh.....your soapbox seems to be missing a few nails. (Roflolololololololololol)
M
Muzzling A Chow
Forgot to mention that Chows cannot breathe worth a flip. They have fatty throats that cuts down on the amount of air passing thru. They can be muzzled if kept inside in 60 degree temperature. Now, if they have a somewhat smushed in face, forget trying to muzzle it. It won't stay on worth a flip. Chows are very close to Pugs in their breathing abilities....or lack thereof.
Forgot to mention that Chows cannot breathe worth a flip. They have fatty throats that cuts down on the amount of air passing thru. They can be muzzled if kept inside in 60 degree temperature. Now, if they have a somewhat smushed in face, forget trying to muzzle it. It won't stay on worth a flip. Chows are very close to Pugs in their breathing abilities....or lack thereof.
guess what made me think that? plus you quoted me when you said that so i know. sorry hun, but you gotta know me first if ur gonna call me dense.do not call me it agian in my mind(yea i have one) this is rude ok? well actually itrs not that big of a deal to me,c onsidering what ur like but do not say something about me if its just ur opinion...what did i evr do to u?
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Lea, ignore her!!!! She isnt worth it.
The breathing problems of Chows is why you have your "coyote" chows. Some breeders think the health of the chow is more important than your show look.
As for a Chow eatting you alive when it hurts......ask my husband what his best baby did when it was hit by a car? Bleeding and hurt, it stumpled it's way back to him. It died in his freakin' arms! It ate no one.
You are nothing more than a mean old hag. People actually got along on this board until you came along with all your wonderful wisdom. I question how you treat animals. If we were to come watch you care for animals, what would we find? If you treat animals the same way you treat people then no wonder you know so much about out of control dogs!
Lets just make a thread and name it "go ask the wiseone". I personaly think your all wind.
The breathing problems of Chows is why you have your "coyote" chows. Some breeders think the health of the chow is more important than your show look.
As for a Chow eatting you alive when it hurts......ask my husband what his best baby did when it was hit by a car? Bleeding and hurt, it stumpled it's way back to him. It died in his freakin' arms! It ate no one.
You are nothing more than a mean old hag. People actually got along on this board until you came along with all your wonderful wisdom. I question how you treat animals. If we were to come watch you care for animals, what would we find? If you treat animals the same way you treat people then no wonder you know so much about out of control dogs!
Lets just make a thread and name it "go ask the wiseone". I personaly think your all wind.