20 week abortions...
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As if I needed another reason to be pro-choice, these people have decided to park themselves on my campus.
Comparing abortion to genocide (including pictures of the holocaust, etc..) , using FALSE grotesque pictures,lies , guilt, religion and trying to push women's rights back into the dark ages, all topped off with a creepy MAN in a microphone of course yelling
They also have a giant truck with the grotesque image they are circling the campus with.
Oh hey here's an idea, instead of using all that money for gas, the truck, billboards, the security.. How about using it to help children or women that need help with their newborns?
No? Oh yea, that because they don't really care once the baby is born. Once you are out of the womb, it's a success right?
It makes me sick.
Props to that guy and the women's right and the students for reproductive rights group that has since started protesting
My body. My choice.
and things like that ^ only make me even more set in remaining pro-life. Women are being compared to murders, at the same level of those who took part in the holocaust. And there are people who AGREE with that mentality.
You can't believe in women's rights and think they don't have a right or aren't competent enough to make decisions about their bodies.
There will NEVER EVER be such a thing as "Illegal abortions" there will only ever be "Illegal SAFE abortions"
Comparing abortion to genocide (including pictures of the holocaust, etc..) , using FALSE grotesque pictures,lies , guilt, religion and trying to push women's rights back into the dark ages, all topped off with a creepy MAN in a microphone of course yelling
They also have a giant truck with the grotesque image they are circling the campus with.
Oh hey here's an idea, instead of using all that money for gas, the truck, billboards, the security.. How about using it to help children or women that need help with their newborns?
No? Oh yea, that because they don't really care once the baby is born. Once you are out of the womb, it's a success right?
It makes me sick.
Props to that guy and the women's right and the students for reproductive rights group that has since started protesting
My body. My choice.
and things like that ^ only make me even more set in remaining pro-life. Women are being compared to murders, at the same level of those who took part in the holocaust. And there are people who AGREE with that mentality.
You can't believe in women's rights and think they don't have a right or aren't competent enough to make decisions about their bodies.
There will NEVER EVER be such a thing as "Illegal abortions" there will only ever be "Illegal SAFE abortions"
Do they use anesthesia when doing life saving operations in utero?
I do find that sad....just a couple decades ago they were doing major surgeries on newborns and preemies with no anesthesia too
I do find that sad....just a couple decades ago they were doing major surgeries on newborns and preemies with no anesthesia too
Interesting. I found one paper that said they didnt cross enough to numb when I was looking into it originally but cant find it now. Then you have all the docs saying that for c-sections the baby is unaffected? Wouldnt it be the same for that?
I want to look into this further when I have time. One of the reasons I dont like using drugs during labor is because they cross the placenta but so many say they are still safe or barely, etc....
I need to look into it, but I do remember a surgery about a baby having a heart surgery done while still in utero, and the baby was also given a mild anesthetic even though the mother was under general anesthesia.
I haven't delivered any babies, but I have delivered more puppies under c-section (and even a few kittens) than I can even begin to count. I will tell you this: if you do not revive the puppies, they die. They come out completely anesthetized, and it takes a lot of rubbing, slinging, and stimulation to get them breathing and going. This is why we always had 4-5 techs on hand during c-sections. A pup left forgotten was the one that never woke up.
To touch on how pro-lifers are selfish, I could turn the tables on that argument. You see, when there is another life involved, it's not just about you anymore. Whether you want to admit it, there is a life dependent upon you. YOU are the deciding factor on whether he or she lives or dies. And we'd all be fools to believe that selfishness (one's desire to not have to deal with a baby, or not have to deal with a baby that won't be "perfect") does not play a pary in many abortions.
I'm very anti-abortion. But that doesn't mean I'm going to stand outside a clinic and call women whores and throw things at them. It doesn't mean I'm going to murder doctors (seriously...I don't even get that). God instructs me to love and offer His grace through me. Not hate and condemn.
I am greatful that I've never experienced an ectopic pregnancy because I don't think I could've even handled that.
There was never any doubt in my mind with any of my 3 pregnancies, that I would give my life before I took the life of my child. My hubby was clear that if something happened to me, and a decision had to be made to save me or my baby, that the baby came first. If I ever woke up to find my baby had been aborted to save my life, someone would've paid a HUGE price.
And fwiw, I was raped when I was 18. I was a freshman in college. I was on a full ride academic scholorship as well as a full ride athletic scholorship. Getting pregnant would've cost me the athletic scholorship and my chance to play college soccer. It would've cost me many friends. And it may have cost me the academic portion as well. But taking the morning after pill, as I was urged in the hospital the morning after the rape occurred, was not something I was willing to do. Nor would I have had an abortion. Was I ready to raise a child? Absolutely not. But could I have killed a child all because I didn't like his/her father or because I didn't have lots of money? No. I will never punish a baby for another man's sins. JMO
I haven't delivered any babies, but I have delivered more puppies under c-section (and even a few kittens) than I can even begin to count. I will tell you this: if you do not revive the puppies, they die. They come out completely anesthetized, and it takes a lot of rubbing, slinging, and stimulation to get them breathing and going. This is why we always had 4-5 techs on hand during c-sections. A pup left forgotten was the one that never woke up.
To touch on how pro-lifers are selfish, I could turn the tables on that argument. You see, when there is another life involved, it's not just about you anymore. Whether you want to admit it, there is a life dependent upon you. YOU are the deciding factor on whether he or she lives or dies. And we'd all be fools to believe that selfishness (one's desire to not have to deal with a baby, or not have to deal with a baby that won't be "perfect") does not play a pary in many abortions.
I'm very anti-abortion. But that doesn't mean I'm going to stand outside a clinic and call women whores and throw things at them. It doesn't mean I'm going to murder doctors (seriously...I don't even get that). God instructs me to love and offer His grace through me. Not hate and condemn.
I am greatful that I've never experienced an ectopic pregnancy because I don't think I could've even handled that.
There was never any doubt in my mind with any of my 3 pregnancies, that I would give my life before I took the life of my child. My hubby was clear that if something happened to me, and a decision had to be made to save me or my baby, that the baby came first. If I ever woke up to find my baby had been aborted to save my life, someone would've paid a HUGE price.
And fwiw, I was raped when I was 18. I was a freshman in college. I was on a full ride academic scholorship as well as a full ride athletic scholorship. Getting pregnant would've cost me the athletic scholorship and my chance to play college soccer. It would've cost me many friends. And it may have cost me the academic portion as well. But taking the morning after pill, as I was urged in the hospital the morning after the rape occurred, was not something I was willing to do. Nor would I have had an abortion. Was I ready to raise a child? Absolutely not. But could I have killed a child all because I didn't like his/her father or because I didn't have lots of money? No. I will never punish a baby for another man's sins. JMO
This, is NOT true. Making statements like this when you obviously do not know about the pro-life movement & their unyielding efforts to save lives is just simply wrong. There are many, many organizations that are there to help the mothers & their child before and after they're born. Helps are plenty when one looks for it. Not to group all into one bundle, but many people who consider abortion do NOT even think about/explore other options. Unwanted/unplanned pregnancy automatically means abortion... and that makes me sick.
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Organizations? Yes, there are some. But, our politicians who vote pro-life are often also cutting social programs left and right. I see a local politician at a lot of "Abortion is murder!" rallies. The same guy votes to cut education, medical care for the elderly and poor, etc. It really does seem that the same politicians that are all up in my uterus don't really give a rip about the babies once they are born.
Depending what type of BC you normally use, it can prevent sperm from entering the uterus at all. Low dose progesterone is really finicky. If you are an hour late or early that could be enough to throw it off and allow stuff through. The way it works is by making a mucus barrier so nothing can get in. And because sperm live for a few days if you're late on your dose and you've been "active" you can't just abstain for a few days until it builds back up again. Those little dudes are just hanging out waiting for a chance.
Apparently if you take the morning after pill at the same time as your late pill, it prevents the mucus barrier from thinning out and letting anything in at all. Tada.
Apparently if you take the morning after pill at the same time as your late pill, it prevents the mucus barrier from thinning out and letting anything in at all. Tada.
Back in High School I found out ahead of time a prochoice group was going to be handing out fliers with picture of the result of abortions. I followed behind them handing out Korean Restaurant menus that had pictures of their entrées. At the time it seemed fitting.
I always wanted to go stand next to the prolife protesters with my own blown up pictures of neglected or abused American children. Its still on the list.
I said earlier in this thread Im neither prochoice or prolife, because I have no say in the matter. If our society actually valued personal responsibility, I would have a say if a child I fathered was born.
ETA: No objection to the morning after pill.
I always wanted to go stand next to the prolife protesters with my own blown up pictures of neglected or abused American children. Its still on the list.
I said earlier in this thread Im neither prochoice or prolife, because I have no say in the matter. If our society actually valued personal responsibility, I would have a say if a child I fathered was born.
ETA: No objection to the morning after pill.
As far as the father thing think about this though. In my case with Bev the father the entire pregnancy wanted her and threw a fit when I thought about adoption and refused to sign the paperwork yet left us when she was born. What about men who will do that to a girl/woman.
Im sure that Im not the only girl that happened to as well. In the end I didnt make any of my choices because of him I made my choice for ME and her.
Im sure that Im not the only girl that happened to as well. In the end I didnt make any of my choices because of him I made my choice for ME and her.