So I found this add in the paper yesterday..
"Golden Doodle pups, males & females, ready 3/19, $1,000, PD246, ID #103034, 376-3734 www.zehrgoldens.com"
These people make me sick. So I sent them an email.
"You make me sick selling mutts for $1,000. There are enough mutts in shelters without more being purposely bred. You should be ashamed of yourselves. 5 millions animals are put down by pounds every year and here you are contributing to an already out of hand problem. I hope no one is stupid enough to buy your mutts when they can get one from the shelter for $150 thats spayed/neutered and up to date on shots with a clean bill of health.
Sincerely,
Disappointed and Disgusted."
And they write me back which makes me even more sick....
"Melissa,
You sound like someone I might be able to make friends with -- someone with conviction and desire to make the world a better place. You certainly have a right to your own opinion. You might also be interested in knowing a bit about our thinking and why we do what we do.
To start with, these puppies are not the result of a neighborhood accident. They are called "designer" breeds rather than mutts because they are bred deliberately for the desirable traits that result. Most likely Goldendoodles will become a standardized breed since they are becoming popular for their outstanding traits as a family pet. They originated in Australia as a result of international breeding for an assistance dog. The high level of resulting success has caught on. One of our great satisfactions is supplying a marvelous pet to families with allergies who cannot handle the reactions from dogs with dander and shedding hair. Some of our puppies are purchased with the additional intent to train them as therapy dogs for nursing homes or work with children or adults. They are carefully bred with high quality registered Golden Retrievers and Standard Poodles. One of the problems with dogs from the pound is that sadly enough some have been mistreated and as a result are too unpredictable to be safe around children. Some of the people who purchase our puppies have first tried a pound dog. And in some cases they make that choice and that's okay. But if they need a carefully bred dog to fit their family there are always designer breeds. Take care.
Milton J. Zehr"
So I reply... ~_~;
"List of Hypoallergenic dog breeds
* Airedale Terrier
* American Hairless Terrier
* Barbet (dog)
* Basenji
* Bedlington Terrier
* Bergamasco
* Bichon Frisé
* Bolognese
* Border Terrier
* Bouvier des Flandres
* Cairn Terrier
* Chacy Ranior
* Chinese Crested
* Coton De Tulear
* Dandie Dinmont Terrier
* Fox Terrier (Wire)
* Greyhound
* Havanese
* Hungarian Vizsla
* Irish Water Spaniel
* Italian Greyhound
* Kerry Blue Terrier
* Lagotto Romagnolo
* Maltese
* Miniature Poodle
* Miniature Schnauzer
* Peruvian Inca Orchid
* Portuguese Water Dog
* Puli
* Samoyed (dog) [1]
* Scottish Terrier
* Shih Tzu
* Silky Terrier
* Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier
* Spanish Water Dog
* Standard Poodle
* Standard Schnauzer
* Tibetan Terrier
* Toy Poodle
* Welsh Terrier
* West Highland White Terrier
* Wirehaired Dachshund
* Yorkshire Terrier
* Xoloitzcuintle
There is no reason to use that your breeding for a good pet quality dog that is Hypoallergenic when there is a large enough list of responsibly bred dogs that have been bred for years towards this purpose already. You can't just breed two separate breeds together and call them a new "Designer Breed". A Golden Retriever x a Standard Poodle will always be a Mutt. You can add the fancy "Desginer Breed" name to it all you want it still doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of those mutts available in shelters without more being bred - and they dont cost $1,000!!
Hypoallergenic dog breeds, are those breeds that are considered the most suitable for those who suffer from allergies. Though they do produce dander, the amount is so small that very few people experience allergy symptoms when in contact with these breeds.However, no dog is completely 100% hypoallergenic. With the recent trend in poodle mixes (goldendoodle, labordoodle ect.) It is best to purchase a second or third generation puppy. Often puppies produced from the first generation lack the characteristics of a poodle, which make them less ideal for allergy suffering owners.
If you were even remotely serious in helping this become a real breed you would have imported from Australia. Where there have been generations and generations of these mutts being bred. They would be closer to being considered maybe 30 years from now a breed. What you are doing is creating mutts and selling them under false pretenses that they are a breed and hypoallergenic at this point when realistically there is no guarantee that any of your pups are unless you bred your Standard Poodle to a Standard Poodle. Personally I don't see a problem to ruin two perfectly good breeds for a reason that has already been bred for and into many other wonderful breeds that are available out there for pets.
You can't classify all dogs from shelters unpredictable and mistreated. Most shelters perform very strict temperment testing to be able to classify if this dog is able to be adopted and what type of families it should be considered for. And not every dog that walks in there was ever abused. Most are Unwanted mothers that are pregnant and their owners don't want to deal with the litters, older dogs, people who bought a breed that wasn't suitable for their personality or life style, a dog thats been abandoned and found on the streets ect. Not all come from abuse cases!
The only "Carefully bred" part that is true to what you say is you "Carefully" bred your Golden Retriever and your Poodle to make mutts and sell them at an outrageous price to convince people that your mutts are a breed and hypoallergenic when they are truly in fact not. That is sad and outrageous to have took mans best friend and used them to manipulate people so you can make money on a dog that is available in many shelters who is just as wonderful and needs a family to love them too.
- Melissa"
I am disgusted to say the least... They assume that just because their dogs are AKC registered that they are quality bred dogs. And they do OFAs? HAH. I'd really like to see proof of that. What about other health testing for problems that are apparent in both breeds? *Grumbles and shakes head*
- Abstrax
"Golden Doodle pups, males & females, ready 3/19, $1,000, PD246, ID #103034, 376-3734 www.zehrgoldens.com"
These people make me sick. So I sent them an email.
"You make me sick selling mutts for $1,000. There are enough mutts in shelters without more being purposely bred. You should be ashamed of yourselves. 5 millions animals are put down by pounds every year and here you are contributing to an already out of hand problem. I hope no one is stupid enough to buy your mutts when they can get one from the shelter for $150 thats spayed/neutered and up to date on shots with a clean bill of health.
Sincerely,
Disappointed and Disgusted."
And they write me back which makes me even more sick....
"Melissa,
You sound like someone I might be able to make friends with -- someone with conviction and desire to make the world a better place. You certainly have a right to your own opinion. You might also be interested in knowing a bit about our thinking and why we do what we do.
To start with, these puppies are not the result of a neighborhood accident. They are called "designer" breeds rather than mutts because they are bred deliberately for the desirable traits that result. Most likely Goldendoodles will become a standardized breed since they are becoming popular for their outstanding traits as a family pet. They originated in Australia as a result of international breeding for an assistance dog. The high level of resulting success has caught on. One of our great satisfactions is supplying a marvelous pet to families with allergies who cannot handle the reactions from dogs with dander and shedding hair. Some of our puppies are purchased with the additional intent to train them as therapy dogs for nursing homes or work with children or adults. They are carefully bred with high quality registered Golden Retrievers and Standard Poodles. One of the problems with dogs from the pound is that sadly enough some have been mistreated and as a result are too unpredictable to be safe around children. Some of the people who purchase our puppies have first tried a pound dog. And in some cases they make that choice and that's okay. But if they need a carefully bred dog to fit their family there are always designer breeds. Take care.
Milton J. Zehr"
So I reply... ~_~;
"List of Hypoallergenic dog breeds
* Airedale Terrier
* American Hairless Terrier
* Barbet (dog)
* Basenji
* Bedlington Terrier
* Bergamasco
* Bichon Frisé
* Bolognese
* Border Terrier
* Bouvier des Flandres
* Cairn Terrier
* Chacy Ranior
* Chinese Crested
* Coton De Tulear
* Dandie Dinmont Terrier
* Fox Terrier (Wire)
* Greyhound
* Havanese
* Hungarian Vizsla
* Irish Water Spaniel
* Italian Greyhound
* Kerry Blue Terrier
* Lagotto Romagnolo
* Maltese
* Miniature Poodle
* Miniature Schnauzer
* Peruvian Inca Orchid
* Portuguese Water Dog
* Puli
* Samoyed (dog) [1]
* Scottish Terrier
* Shih Tzu
* Silky Terrier
* Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier
* Spanish Water Dog
* Standard Poodle
* Standard Schnauzer
* Tibetan Terrier
* Toy Poodle
* Welsh Terrier
* West Highland White Terrier
* Wirehaired Dachshund
* Yorkshire Terrier
* Xoloitzcuintle
There is no reason to use that your breeding for a good pet quality dog that is Hypoallergenic when there is a large enough list of responsibly bred dogs that have been bred for years towards this purpose already. You can't just breed two separate breeds together and call them a new "Designer Breed". A Golden Retriever x a Standard Poodle will always be a Mutt. You can add the fancy "Desginer Breed" name to it all you want it still doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of those mutts available in shelters without more being bred - and they dont cost $1,000!!
Hypoallergenic dog breeds, are those breeds that are considered the most suitable for those who suffer from allergies. Though they do produce dander, the amount is so small that very few people experience allergy symptoms when in contact with these breeds.However, no dog is completely 100% hypoallergenic. With the recent trend in poodle mixes (goldendoodle, labordoodle ect.) It is best to purchase a second or third generation puppy. Often puppies produced from the first generation lack the characteristics of a poodle, which make them less ideal for allergy suffering owners.
If you were even remotely serious in helping this become a real breed you would have imported from Australia. Where there have been generations and generations of these mutts being bred. They would be closer to being considered maybe 30 years from now a breed. What you are doing is creating mutts and selling them under false pretenses that they are a breed and hypoallergenic at this point when realistically there is no guarantee that any of your pups are unless you bred your Standard Poodle to a Standard Poodle. Personally I don't see a problem to ruin two perfectly good breeds for a reason that has already been bred for and into many other wonderful breeds that are available out there for pets.
You can't classify all dogs from shelters unpredictable and mistreated. Most shelters perform very strict temperment testing to be able to classify if this dog is able to be adopted and what type of families it should be considered for. And not every dog that walks in there was ever abused. Most are Unwanted mothers that are pregnant and their owners don't want to deal with the litters, older dogs, people who bought a breed that wasn't suitable for their personality or life style, a dog thats been abandoned and found on the streets ect. Not all come from abuse cases!
The only "Carefully bred" part that is true to what you say is you "Carefully" bred your Golden Retriever and your Poodle to make mutts and sell them at an outrageous price to convince people that your mutts are a breed and hypoallergenic when they are truly in fact not. That is sad and outrageous to have took mans best friend and used them to manipulate people so you can make money on a dog that is available in many shelters who is just as wonderful and needs a family to love them too.
- Melissa"
I am disgusted to say the least... They assume that just because their dogs are AKC registered that they are quality bred dogs. And they do OFAs? HAH. I'd really like to see proof of that. What about other health testing for problems that are apparent in both breeds? *Grumbles and shakes head*
- Abstrax