What do you think of the US?

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Dizzy- You are right. But I think we've gone down this road too far to turn back...

I AM biased, I'll admit it, but I do believe Canada is less involved with things of that nature. If you notice I said "less" not, "not involved at all".

My thing with the States is, why can't they strive for things within their own limits? Their own country?

Or if their sole mission is to help other countries why can't they do that without bringing the army in and dropping bombs.

Something I thought of the other day, and I know there's so many ways it's wrong but I still think about it. (Canada vs . USA)

I think that aside from Canadians being known to be "polite" and blah blha blha, our country is based on many different cultures. If we were to get involved with what seems racially based "terrorism" it would hurt our country as a whole, it would hurt Canadians who were from those countries. So we stay out of it for the better of the people.

The States now, I'm sure have plenty of different cultures, but why don't they take the same approach? Why do they have to always come out with the guns loaded?

As mentioned, they found terrorists in Canada, why havne't we buckled down and set out troops to fight the war on terrorism?
 

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It just irritates me when people point thigs out like that.. no matter where they're from.. I mean they know soda = pop and pop = soda.. so just bring the d@mn soda pop! No need to point out that they're 'right' in what it's actually called.. know what I mean? :D
Sorry, I left for 4 hours or more and it has turned into 24 pages ?? Actually, I call soda-pop "TONIC" LOL! I couldn't resist LOL :D !
 

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A little about Mr Hicks ;) Please - try not to be offended :D

"I knew Billy Clinton became one of the boys," Hicks says after his assault on the Republicans, "when he bombed Iraq.... He launched twenty-two missiles against Baghdad in retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt on George Bush, which failed. We killed six innocent people launching twenty-two three million-dollar-apiece missiles - um, I think that's overdoing it, if you ask me. I think we should have just embarrassed the Iraqis, and here's how we could have done it: We should have assassinated Bush.

"But there's no hope in Clinton," he continues. "It's just a handful of people that run everything, and that's provable.... I have this feeling that whoever's elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what promises you make on the campaign trail - blah, blah, blah - when you win, you go into this smoky room with the twelve industrialist, capitalist scum****s that got you in there, and this little screen comes down... and it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before, which looks suspiciously off the grassy knoll.... And then the screen comes up, the lights come on, and they say to the new president, 'Any questions?'

"Just what my agenda is."

Hicks certainly wouldn't be short on material if he were alive today.

He believed that people should find their own answers to their questions about the universe, not accept what the powers that be fed them. He said that if we all have a third eye with which to view the wonder of our universe, watching television was like spraying black paint all over it. In his drinking days, Hicks would get so disgusted with everything he'd just fall on the stage floor and shout, "You ****ing morons!"

Of course, that often sent people to the door. "Go back to the herd, moron," Hicks would say.
 

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I've been thru this entire thread and will not return. It's gotten too long. But will leave you with MY thoughts as this is freedom of expression which we are allowed to do:

All countries and their cultures are different and we're now a GLOBAL economy where we all need to get along. Whether it be oil from Saudi Arabia, pieces and parts from China, customer service via phone from India, just face it. These bashings are the growing pains in doing so... cultures are finally clashing.

GOD and JESUS CHRIST (yes, I wrote it) are my salvation to last through this life (hell on earth as we know it) and give me my faith. No, I don't bash it down anybody's throat, although some organized (and sometimes unorganized) religions in the U.S. say you need to.

Just like the 50K+ dogs being beaten and killed horribly, we in the U.S. shudder to imagine. To "most" of them, it's no big deal. We have a lot of barriers in our cultures. Horsemeat to Europe. Etc. etc. I could go on and on.

I guess I'll just leave you with the ONE tidbit I gained from this insanely loooong thread... That even though I believe in a higher power, and you don't, and I don't "preach" to you... well, I won't even post it. You know who you are. If we're not part of a greater thing, then we're a bunch of ants running around on an ant farm.
 

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I was not aware that many consider the US terrorist. I did know that many don't like the US and even consider them an enemy.

I thought terrorists and terrorism was a relatively new thing or at least a relatively new term. There have always been countries invading other countries and wars. In these wars and invasions, innocent people have always been killed. These were not called acts of terrorism. It was war, and there was an enemy. I might be wrong on this, but this is what I think.

I thought terrorism was the term when a group targeted innocents. I am not aware of other countries that think the US is targeting innocent people.
 

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mjb- Your right, that's how its always been. BUT NOW with weapons that could destroy the very planet we live on, I think we have to take a different approach to things not just. "We're bigger, more technologically advanced, have better weapons than you, so WHAT?"
 
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Dizzy said:
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh - it's all about money and power, and we ALL know it.

Terrorism, fighting for freedom - what a load of bollox.

Sorry. But your/our/my governments must think we are SUCKERS.

They spoon feed us from birth, moulding us into what they want.

It's about time MORE people opened their eyes!
Heheheh . . . . I think Dizzy's got it . . . ;)
 

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I still think this whole thread is ridiculous...seriously

If you live in the US and you dont like it and you have the means to move, MOVE...
If you live somewhere outside of the US and you don't like, you DON'T have to live here...
If you live here and you dont like it, but won't move, then shut up and quit whining about it...

My 2 cents.....
 
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jess2416 said:
I still think this whole thread is ridiculous...seriously

If you live in the US and you dont like it and you have the means to move, MOVE...
If you live somewhere outside of the US and you don't like, you DON'T have to live here...
If you live here and you dont like it, but won't move, then shut up and quit whining about it...

My 2 cents.....
I love your 2 cents :D
 

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Roxy's CD.....
Yes, the world is different now with all the weapons of mass destruction.

I was just commenting on the posts that were saying that, to some, the US are considered the terrorists. If I understand what terrorism is, then I think perhaps the people/countries that consider the US terrorist might be using the term terrorist synonymous with enemy in the past.
My understanding was that terrorists target innocent people. Innocent people die in warfare but targeting them has not been widespread.

Human nature is human nature. People who hate living in the US because of the people and the government are probably going to find themselves not happy when they move to Western Europe or Canada either. The cultures and people are quite similar. And if the people are similar, politics is not going to be that different either.
 

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That I have to disagree with. Canada's culture is greatly influenced by the states but most definitely not our government. Yes, we do get bullied into doing things by the USA but if we were "free" to choose we would not have gotten involved with things overseas like we have/are right now.

You DO NOT see Canada involving themselves with issues, like in the Middle East currently.
Canada was involved in Afghanistan I believe, but the gist I got from that was we were basically forced to help Bush. Side with Bush or we cut you off.

I'm not saying that the American PEOPLE are soo much different than us. But if your comment is true:
And if the people are similar, politics is not going to be that different either.
Than we must be. The Canadian gov't is in no way comparable to the American gov't in my opinion. Period.

Referring to the war in Iraq. I've seen some documentaries. Some house raids... It's just really sad to think about and makes my "hate" for the American gov't stronger. Yes, it's probably most likely a bit biased but I'm sure it happens.

Soldiers, rushing into innocent people's homes and terrorizing them. Sure, not all of them are killed, but still just to think of the terror they live through everyday. These soldiers don't learn the language, so it's even more terrifying for those people.

To imagine that happening to yourself... sure you weren't killed, but your still living for fear of something that you know nothing about. Why are they doing this? What have I done to them?

And this fear for what reason? Oil really? They're helping the people? I don't know their reasons but I'm sure the general basis is not for helping the people.
 

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Only saying if governments are free and determined by the people, and people are similar, then it would seem that the governments will be similar, too.

Each state and its government in the US is different, but their similarities outnumber their differences.
 

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Jess, I totally agree w/ your 2 cents. Its worth more then 2 cents..lol

Pixie: you may not be able to move because you are a minor. That is a good excuse..obviously..lol
But no one else has a good excuse. If you are above the age of 18 you can move... if your economic choices are not as good there... tooo bad.

Elissa
 

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I think people can complain about whatever they want.. and discuss whatever they want.. how many people complain about breed bans but still live where a breed ban exists..? :p
 

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