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puppydog

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Look, I'm not going to speak for the other person, because I do not know her or the length of her hair, how far the lighter was from her, how BIG it was, or how much of "flame throwing" abilities it might have had.

BUT, I WILL say that this type of mockery is ridiculous. I seriously HOPE that NO ONE ever tries to set you on fire even jokingly, because I think it's awful and I'd HATE to have to see you eat your words when you defend yourself.


And just so you know, I happen not to have peripheral vision.
WHOA Nelly! Go back and read my response to PoodleMommy. ;)
It is called general leg pulling to lighten up a very angry thread. If it offended you that much I sincerely and deeply appologise.

Anyway, some very insightful posts. I feel for the OP, it must be hard travelling through life with such anger.
 

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I have seen some amusing justifications in my time, but people are ACTUALLY arguing that a lighter is a WEAPON??!!

Next time I hear of a lighter being used in a mugging, or a hold up - then I will get back to you.

A SPOON could be a weapon if you wanted to argue the point.

I'm sorry, but having a lit lighter put in your general direction - EVEN ON YOUR CLOTHES - does NOTHING. I KNOW this as fact - it's happened to me.... I had an ex who thought it was amising to try and set my socks on fire - the reason - it does NOWT.

I used to push his hand away and tell him he was a dick, laugh and then move on.

The INTENT behind "lightergate" was malicious - and yes, it was a cruel gesture.

The gesture itself was totally and utterly UNharmful.

So if she DID "fling her at a wall" and got suspended, then...... sorry, I'd hope so!

I'd also hope the "lighter wielding maniac" got punishment too.

Seriously - blown out of all proportion or what!
 

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Unfortunately US schools don't work like the real world. Around here, unless you are physically backed into a corner where you cannot run away, you are not allowed to "defend yourself."
100% agree. Schools are different. Most of them have zero-tolerance policies on any kind of violence. My husband was suspended in high school because some punk sucker-punched him in the forehead and broke a few knuckles in the process (Hubby was unhurt). But Hubby was punished for "injuring" the other person, even though he never even touched the guy. How stupid is that? :rolleyes:

I think that if you look at it from the school's standpoint, they did right according to their policies. Although in my old high school, the other girl would be punished for even having a lighter on campus, but I digrees. But from the information given, I can't tell if the school did right from a moral standpoint.
 
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Unfortunately US schools don't work like the real world. Around here, unless you are physically backed into a corner where you cannot run away, you are not allowed to "defend yourself." And even then, if you fight back, you're STILL just as likely to be suspended along with the other student.
100% agree. Schools are different. Most of them have zero-tolerance policies on any kind of violence. My husband was suspended in high school because some punk sucker-punched him in the forehead and broke a few knuckles in the process (Hubby was unhurt). But Hubby was punished for "injuring" the other person, even though he never even touched the guy. How stupid is that? :rolleyes:.
Stop and think about all the idiotic cases that are cropping up in the courts now . . . cases of burglars who are injured while they are pilfering someone else's home - and they WIN DAMAGES! Cases of home invasions being stopped by dogs, and the dogs are destroyed . . . We've all read about them and been incensed.

So, how is that any different from being punished for defending yourself in high school, or grade school for that matter?

Pretty symptomatic of how screwed up things are out here in 'the real world.'
 

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Stop and think about all the idiotic cases that are cropping up in the courts now . . . cases of burglars who are injured while they are pilfering someone else's home - and they WIN DAMAGES! Cases of home invasions being stopped by dogs, and the dogs are destroyed . . . We've all read about them and been incensed.
It reminds me of a popular saying/joke in this area. Here, it's legal to use lethal force against burglars.

The saying is, "If somebody breaks into your house, shoot'em. Because if you let them live, they'll sue you."
 

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I think that is a situation where you had to be there to truly judge it.
I know that some people I knew played practical jokes on other and boosted their lighter to make a pretty big flame shoot up. If someone would walk up to me and put that flame in my face, you can be sure I'd react and push that person away from me- if he/she would land against the wall, so be it.

Now, if someone would threaten me with a "normal" flame on a lighter... hmm... I'd probably just smack the hand away. But then again, people react differently when they get startled. I don't see why a suspension is necessary, I'd rather sit both parties down in my office and have a heart to heart talk first and see what the mindset is. If suspension, then I'd suspend both parties here.
 
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Gina: This thread has been 'bugging' me and I just want to get it out of my head. After reading our responses it became apparent if I had left out let her get it out without making her feel worse the point of my post wouldn't have been missed. My intent was not to stop or discourage anyone from posting, it was to point out the OP was not simply stating the facts, she was furious at the time and was coming across as 'over the top'. It was a poor choice to add the above. Hopefully, I'll remember this.

So, please accept my apology regarding my responses to your post. I was wrong.
 
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I have not noticed a response from the op for this whole post... correct me if I am wrong.

Its amazing how our society treats some children in school like they have no rights.

If we where to take the same EXACT scenario except using two adults, well lets face it, unless there was actual proof someone was injured nothing would have happened.

We have a right to protect ourselves, even as children.
 

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