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Bridey, I'm curious. Here in the States there are some groups that are rescuing shelter dogs and training them as assistance dogs as well as search and rescue and 'sniffers' and they've been having very good results (which goes to how important temperament and training desire is) and very high success ratios compared to many programs that go through specific breeds/breeders. Is that being done in Australia that you know of (for all I know it may have started down your way 
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)I've just realized that this modern world seems rather traumatized at the thought of not having air conditioning. LOL OK...you folks in the south need it (and quit sending your heat up north, please) YIKES...not only do my dogs live without air conditioning....they don't have cell phones...or cable, OMG...they can't even get high-speed internet. It's going to be 93 and humid today, and the dogs are outside. They are lounging in the shade catching whatever breeze is there...while I'm running around working up the sweat. hmmmmm...who knew they would be the smart ones who knew how to tolerate a summer day?? Call me a silly, but they prefer being outside to being indoors on a day like today.......cause OH MY GOODNESS, I DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. Sorry, it did just strike me as a little funny that this 'air conditioning' is a crisis situation.......guess it's my humor. (not picking on anyone .... just the silliness of me)
(not picking on anyone .... just the silliness of me)
M
If parents are tested, then you know that you will likely be getting a healthy pup. I didn't realize that training dogs to sit, stay, etc was such a wonder, rofl. Mine are leash trained, sit, come when called and are bite free by 6 weeks of age! But that is the advantage of being a breeder. In fact, most of my pups were leash trained by 3 weeks of age!!!!!! And I don't see why you have to resort to trying to turn this into a personal assault against you. I give you a few verbal jabs, but that is not an assault!
Do they do Penn Hip down there? Or do they actually certify hips on the parent dogs once in a while? Training is of no good if a dog has heart disease or crippled hips and cannot even live a normal pain free life. Testing is done purely to insure a healthy, happy life for the puppies.
As far as sensitivity, there is no herding breed that has the sensitivity of a Dobe, or a Manchester. By their very instinct and nature they work away from humans, thinking for themselves, and reacting for themselves. They are not interested in pleasing their masters-----only in pleasing themselves! They HAVE to be that way in order to do what they are bred to do!
Do they do Penn Hip down there? Or do they actually certify hips on the parent dogs once in a while? Training is of no good if a dog has heart disease or crippled hips and cannot even live a normal pain free life. Testing is done purely to insure a healthy, happy life for the puppies.
As far as sensitivity, there is no herding breed that has the sensitivity of a Dobe, or a Manchester. By their very instinct and nature they work away from humans, thinking for themselves, and reacting for themselves. They are not interested in pleasing their masters-----only in pleasing themselves! They HAVE to be that way in order to do what they are bred to do!
Mine do a great job of staying cooler outside too, Debi. Especially Bimmer. He digs out a shallow place under a bush to get to the cool earth and stretches out and snoozes. Of course, Kharma has learned to lay in front of one of the fans, lol, and Shiva has found the spot in the hallway where the air flows from the bedroom window as it's being pulled by the fan in the attic.
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Debi, Debi, Debi!!!
In addition to not having A/C, you must not have biting flies or fire ants, or recluse spiders (which just killed one of my dogs in spite of her being an indoor A/C'd dog). And you must not be in congestive heart failure, unable to breathe in excruciating heat and humidity! Air conditioning is not a luxury--it is a necessity of life.
Oh yeah, we also have nice little things called Cow Ants. Orange and black striped. Bite is the same as a scorpion.
It is 90 degrees now, and I am fixing to bring the boys in and put them in their crates to stuff their faces and sleep thru the heat of the day.
There are some of us who simply refuse to be uncomfortable on days when the heat index is 110 degrees. At my age (63) and with the heart failure and diabetes, I am NOT going to add heat prostration to the formula! If you are young, as I once was, and can survive with no A/C, then God bless you! Think of the money you are saving!!!!!
And if you don't live around biting flies, YOU AIN'T GOTTA CLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In addition to not having A/C, you must not have biting flies or fire ants, or recluse spiders (which just killed one of my dogs in spite of her being an indoor A/C'd dog). And you must not be in congestive heart failure, unable to breathe in excruciating heat and humidity! Air conditioning is not a luxury--it is a necessity of life.
Oh yeah, we also have nice little things called Cow Ants. Orange and black striped. Bite is the same as a scorpion.
It is 90 degrees now, and I am fixing to bring the boys in and put them in their crates to stuff their faces and sleep thru the heat of the day.
There are some of us who simply refuse to be uncomfortable on days when the heat index is 110 degrees. At my age (63) and with the heart failure and diabetes, I am NOT going to add heat prostration to the formula! If you are young, as I once was, and can survive with no A/C, then God bless you! Think of the money you are saving!!!!!
And if you don't live around biting flies, YOU AIN'T GOTTA CLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not really true, Manchesters. Part of that wise and selective breeding that went on "back in the day," particularly with Fila, is a strange and almost obsessive desire to bond with their people. That's one of the things we warn people about who think they want a Fila - you have to let these dogs be WITH you. They are happiest if they are with you 24/7. They want to be touching you, or at least where they can see you . They NEED to be with you and interact with you - even Charley, who will always think there is nothing like a good Doberman - will tell you that while the Dobermans had a greater desire to do what you wanted them to do, they were nowhere near as needy or affectionate when it came right down to it. It's a necessity - think of how dangerous it would be if the Fila didn't have that deep abiding bond with it's people? They wouldn't be the superlative guardians they are without it either.
YIKES...I don't ever want to meet anything called a 'cow ant'...that is one heck of a scarey visual!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, I did agree that it is needed in the south. I've lived in TX and fire ants are enough to give me nightmares...along with scorpions and the like. Recluse spiders...I've heard that while not so prominent here, they ARE around...and are more likely hiding in my closet or something horrid. (can't even think of that!!!!) But, yep...we have some nasty biting flies. People around here call them deer flies....I call them things I can't say in public. I also totally agree...health problems..then it is a must to stay out of the heat!! I had just been going over a conversation I had with a friend who was moaning about the extreme heat. I just had to giggle cause he leaves his air conditioned house, into his air conditioned car, to get to the air conditioned office. Now...THAT really IS funny!!!!!!!!!! I had to ask 'how do you even know it's hot???'...guess he hears it on the news. Hope you stay cool and have a great day! Who knows....by around 5, I may be banging on your door begging for mercy. I'll be the really sweaty person...with 2 dogs who are rolling their eyes.
Manchester.....I guess golden retriever pups learn and bond younger than toy manchesters. At 8-9 weeks, mine were READY to go home. They were well socialized , not crated, house introduced, etc etc. And yes, both the dam and the sire were tested. They had been to the vets 3 times . As a breeder , I was known as the best. Over 30 years I had 3rd generations of customers .
ROFLMAO! Debi, you always make me giggle with the visuals I get from your posts!
Biting flies . . . hmmm . . . averaging 60 - 70 head of cattle, house nestled into a little hollow between the upper pasture and the lower . . . yep, yep, I know about biting flies. Fortunately, cow seems to be tastier than human or dog most of the time. I'm sure there are some recluse spiders lurking in this old farmhouse too.
Biting flies . . . hmmm . . . averaging 60 - 70 head of cattle, house nestled into a little hollow between the upper pasture and the lower . . . yep, yep, I know about biting flies. Fortunately, cow seems to be tastier than human or dog most of the time. I'm sure there are some recluse spiders lurking in this old farmhouse too.
Well yeah, as most people have no **** clue how to train a dog or don't even bother. And the dogs that end up in shelters are most of the time dogs that were given up because the owner was clueless... I know, people are going to tell me it's wrong, except that it's amusing how many of the dogs that are abandonned for allergies or moving but that the owners loved very much turn out to have agressive tendencies or no training whatsoever.
I love all horses. Horses are also my favorite animal in the whole world, right beside dogs though. But horses are great looking creatures and I thank God for putting them on this earth and I'm happy to know I'm not the only horse freak here. I've got horse blankets,pictures,books,etc. I love HORSES!
Different people communicate differently. A well documented fact. Different people feel heated about different things, again a well documented fact. Part of life is being able to take things in stride. I persoanly don't allow someones post to hurt me. They don't know me or my situation, how I was raised, what my morals and values are, etc. Each person will give their own opinion based on the knowledge that they have, take what you want and leave the rest is my motto.
Manchester, although I am not one to start something I would like to ask you a question. You claim to be 110% devoted to the health of your breed but on your website you admit to feeding a food that is basically crap. Why?
Manchester, although I am not one to start something I would like to ask you a question. You claim to be 110% devoted to the health of your breed but on your website you admit to feeding a food that is basically crap. Why?
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Crappy Dog Food
What I feed my dogs is based upon 20 years of results of feeding this food. You can pretty much judge the quality of food by looking at a dog's weight, COAT, energy level, and other factors such as its effects upon gestating and lactating b-tches. Now, I admit to adding powdered milk to the food of pregnant and nursing females. And I would get the best results on my larger breed pups using Purina Puppy Chow of all things.
Now, exactly what are you basing your "crap" evaluation upon? I hope it is not because of the tales of "road kill" added to food, or chicken feet and beaks, etc. If you stop and think what dogs and their relatives eat by choice, there ain't nuttin' that could be put into a dog food that would be any worse, rofl.
What I feed my dogs is based upon 20 years of results of feeding this food. You can pretty much judge the quality of food by looking at a dog's weight, COAT, energy level, and other factors such as its effects upon gestating and lactating b-tches. Now, I admit to adding powdered milk to the food of pregnant and nursing females. And I would get the best results on my larger breed pups using Purina Puppy Chow of all things.
Now, exactly what are you basing your "crap" evaluation upon? I hope it is not because of the tales of "road kill" added to food, or chicken feet and beaks, etc. If you stop and think what dogs and their relatives eat by choice, there ain't nuttin' that could be put into a dog food that would be any worse, rofl.
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