Silver Labs
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If ya bothered to read ya might have noticed they are currently in tracking and are very SKILLED at it. I'm sorry i'f my dogs cannot ride a tricycle like yours but they are having fun tracking and that's important. I'm not gonna get into a "my dog is better than your dog" debate, it's both immature and extremely juvenile. Besides i never laid claim on the website they have tracking or any other certificate so honestly what does it matter at this point. You are simply nit picking cause you don't have any valid arguements other than...."silver bad".
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Just to throw a monkey into this because I am trying to learn found this
http://www.silverlabs.com/controversy.htm#.
what do you think?
According to this silver labs do exist and were proven 100% lab. They are however registered as a chocolate because they are a forum of chocolate colouring.
So based on this am I right in saying the arguement here is the way these labs are described not the actual lab.
If they were listed as chocolates that would make it acceptable because that is how they are registered.
However maybe it should be silver chocolate that way people would not be expecting a chocolate dog, but a greyish chocolate!
Thoughts appreciated!
http://www.silverlabs.com/controversy.htm#.
what do you think?
According to this silver labs do exist and were proven 100% lab. They are however registered as a chocolate because they are a forum of chocolate colouring.
So based on this am I right in saying the arguement here is the way these labs are described not the actual lab.
If they were listed as chocolates that would make it acceptable because that is how they are registered.
However maybe it should be silver chocolate that way people would not be expecting a chocolate dog, but a greyish chocolate!
Thoughts appreciated!
Here's an interesting link for you: http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/silverlabs.html
I don't think anyone is saying that silver labs are not labs. Every breed has a standard and there will always be breeders who don't adhere to that standard, whether it's due to the fact that their own breeding dogs aren't in line with the standard or they've found a fad breeding that they can market to the public for higher prices. Breeding specifically for the colour silver is outside of the standard; the same as breeding blue or liver shepherds because you can sell these "unique" colours to the public. Lots of people want something different; it doesn't make it right.
I don't think anyone is saying that silver labs are not labs. Every breed has a standard and there will always be breeders who don't adhere to that standard, whether it's due to the fact that their own breeding dogs aren't in line with the standard or they've found a fad breeding that they can market to the public for higher prices. Breeding specifically for the colour silver is outside of the standard; the same as breeding blue or liver shepherds because you can sell these "unique" colours to the public. Lots of people want something different; it doesn't make it right.
I have already PM's Momof7 and she will get their pedigree and you can let her tell ya. I just don't understand what the pedigree will tell ya?? Previous champions? Health? I would not have purchased these dogs unless they were healthy. I was definitley planning on purchasing crippled dogs to sell them to people..come on a little far fetched don't ya think?? I realize ya really dislike silvers but why nit pick through there entire pedigree so you can find something, anything to bash about. If this were a decent forum where ya can converse like adults and not have moronic bashing i would have no problem but that's not what's happening here. I came here to defend myself in regards to Labreeders false accusation and all of a sudden it's "Silver's Suck" attitude and "my dog's better than your dog". It's terrible and shameful. Like i said earlier so much for a civilized discussion. My dogs don't leap tall buildings, fly through the air like superman or even clean up after themselves but they are in tracking and just because they don't have a championship under there buckle (which i never claimed they did) they have to start somewhere now don't they??
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what is there registered name, want to check the certs, and I did read they were involved in tracking, so is my uncles dog, the only thing it can follow is a trail from dragged piece of ham. So what do you track them on, how long can they go, what have the "found" anyone can say they work on tracking, now tracking that means something, that is entirely different. Do you track on grass, tall grass, variable surface, asphalt, dirt, etc?? so I ask again, which venue do you track them in and what have they achieved?? Skirt questions to which you have no answer for??
I don't think anyone here dislikes any dogs. Your "silver" dogs are not at fault. If I could save one from a shelter, I probably would (altered of course). But I would never support unethical breeding by paying 1000. to you. If there is no demand....... Then there is no need for supply.
You as an owner and breeder are at fault for breeding dogs for the sole reason to make money.
It has nothing to do with us liking your dogs or a color of a dog. How shallow would that be? It has to do with breeders that breed away from standard......dogs that are disqualified and then sold at an outrageous prices to the unsuspecting public that are thinking they are getting something extra special..... for that cost your dogs should be able to leap flying buildings.
You as an owner and breeder are at fault for breeding dogs for the sole reason to make money.
It has nothing to do with us liking your dogs or a color of a dog. How shallow would that be? It has to do with breeders that breed away from standard......dogs that are disqualified and then sold at an outrageous prices to the unsuspecting public that are thinking they are getting something extra special..... for that cost your dogs should be able to leap flying buildings.
This is so beyond pointless at this juncture. Go to the website and tell me i can advertise her as chocolate. That would be irresponsible and misleading which i will not do. If ya like them buy one, if not then don't it's that simple. Once again what does the tracking have to do with the Silver debate??? They are learning on grass they are not up to the gravel and pavement training yet. They are being trained with leather not treats, treats the first few times to get used to the scent pad but now they are trained with seeking leather. Both tall grass and short grass. I am not an expert in the field of training for tracking but do know the basics, once they have learned the basics they will be put into classes so they can go on to tracking trials. Hopefully that answers your question. Let the bashing begin. Like i said earlier, they have to start somewhere.
Are you kidding me?? I purchased our yellow for $900 so the price is not that outrageous..hell i've seen labs gouing for $2000. Ya know what though you are right about one thing they are getting something special. If ya think they are not in demand try getting one from silverlabs.com.....i tried there is a 1 year waiting list.
Light Silver Lab - $1000.00
Charcoal Lab - $1000.00
Choc. Factored Silver - $600.00
Yellow Lab - $600.00
Black Lab - $600.00
I don't get it. why are the non standard silvers $1000 and the standard yellows & blacks $600?
I bought my then boyfriend a white boxer from a breeder 14 years ago. She was $80 (just enough to pay the vet bills) and her brothers and sisters were $350-$400. Shouldn't the non standard silver labs be priced pretty much the same?
Charcoal Lab - $1000.00
Choc. Factored Silver - $600.00
Yellow Lab - $600.00
Black Lab - $600.00
I don't get it. why are the non standard silvers $1000 and the standard yellows & blacks $600?
I bought my then boyfriend a white boxer from a breeder 14 years ago. She was $80 (just enough to pay the vet bills) and her brothers and sisters were $350-$400. Shouldn't the non standard silver labs be priced pretty much the same?
Also, as a breeder ya darn well know you don't make a dime off these guys, after vet bills, food and lodging ya don't make a darn cent, so anyone thinking this is for money is sadly mistaken. We love the color and hope everyone else would as well. Not everyone wants a dog for the standards, some just like a regular old house pet. Besides, color standards are LRC based not CKC or AKC based, hell they don't even recommend anyone with a silver to register as chocolate a little bit extreme, even though they conform in all other aspects of the breed. LRC won't even recognize a silver yet there are some out there, it can't be proven genetically where it all began but they are here and for some reason LRC won't give them any title whatsoever. Perhaps there membership would decline if Silvers were given there own color due to the backlash of 3 colored breeders...anyways just thinking out loud.
But “just because they can” does that make it right, even if some breeders do so? I don't think so. I've seen "breeders" sell teacup dogs because of their size for ridiculous prices which in my book is SO wrong. As soon as someone breeds for color or size they will end up with health problem down the line, that’s been proven time and time again.
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