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Boxer*Mom said:
didn't he murder 4 people? and start up the gang crypts? 
Kids these days....
Action = Consequence
If you provide people sentenced to a certain punishment, in the name of justice for the VICTIM, then allow the person to do things that change that punishment... Well, if you do that, why in the heck do we even have a justice system? Why punish people at all if acts they do AFTER the crime are allowed to effect the punishment.
Oh but how the press plays this subject. I wonder why the victims are rarely talked about? Or in this case, the 1,000's, perhaps TENS of thousands that have died living the life that he started?
I think it is super that he changed his ways and did what he could to possibly save a few kids from the lifestyle that he pretty much started. BUT, he murdered at least 4 innocent people whose only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I am sure he had ample opportunity to make his peace with God. Hopefully he chose to do so.
Action = Consequence
If you provide people sentenced to a certain punishment, in the name of justice for the VICTIM, then allow the person to do things that change that punishment... Well, if you do that, why in the heck do we even have a justice system? Why punish people at all if acts they do AFTER the crime are allowed to effect the punishment.
Oh but how the press plays this subject. I wonder why the victims are rarely talked about? Or in this case, the 1,000's, perhaps TENS of thousands that have died living the life that he started?
I think it is super that he changed his ways and did what he could to possibly save a few kids from the lifestyle that he pretty much started. BUT, he murdered at least 4 innocent people whose only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I am sure he had ample opportunity to make his peace with God. Hopefully he chose to do so.
SAN QUENTIN, Calif. - Stanley Tookie Williams maintained his innocence right up until his death, even when an admission of guilt may have spared him execution.
Even after the courts and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rejected a flurry of Williams' last-ditch appeals before his execution early Tuesday, his supporters vowed to prove his innocence.
Williams, the Crips gang co-founder whose case stirred a national debate about capital punishment versus the possibility of redemption, was executed Tuesday morning for killing four people in 1979.
........and even if he was guilty, An eye for an eye just makes the whole world blind. This will just cause more violence and riots with the gang, Crips. Arnold is a racist, sexist, nazi, dog breed discriminiater. If I were Tookie I wouldn't feel remorse if I was innocent either, if he was innocent its sad he had to die for something he didn't even much do.
Even after the courts and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rejected a flurry of Williams' last-ditch appeals before his execution early Tuesday, his supporters vowed to prove his innocence.
Williams, the Crips gang co-founder whose case stirred a national debate about capital punishment versus the possibility of redemption, was executed Tuesday morning for killing four people in 1979.
........and even if he was guilty, An eye for an eye just makes the whole world blind. This will just cause more violence and riots with the gang, Crips. Arnold is a racist, sexist, nazi, dog breed discriminiater. If I were Tookie I wouldn't feel remorse if I was innocent either, if he was innocent its sad he had to die for something he didn't even much do.
Tookie wanted clemency, what does that teach the children he professes he wants to help? That if you are convicted of murder all you have to do is
a few good deeds and you get a free pass? He has never admitted to the crimes and has continually appealed his case. There is more than the blood of 4 people on his hands, but the hundreds who have been killed by his created gang the Crips. His death is a lesson in itself to any child in a gang or thinking about becoming a member of one. If he really was all about teaching children, then he'd teach them there are repurcussions to your actions, and redemption comes with a high price.
a few good deeds and you get a free pass? He has never admitted to the crimes and has continually appealed his case. There is more than the blood of 4 people on his hands, but the hundreds who have been killed by his created gang the Crips. His death is a lesson in itself to any child in a gang or thinking about becoming a member of one. If he really was all about teaching children, then he'd teach them there are repurcussions to your actions, and redemption comes with a high price.
This is totally not relevent. What Death Row inmate is NOT remorseful?
But is he REALLY? I have never seen him confess to what he did, or express remores for the deaths he caused. If he did, please provide a link.
There is a lesson here kiddies.....
ACTION = CONSEQUENCE
Think about later... FIRST. This whole modern "live for now, because you do not know what tomorrow may hold" is a bunch of CRAP that is designed to allow people cast their inhibitions aside in the name of pleasure. But it holds ZERO weight in the real world. IN the real world, tomorrow DOES come.
See my thread about being grateful.
But is he REALLY? I have never seen him confess to what he did, or express remores for the deaths he caused. If he did, please provide a link.
There is a lesson here kiddies.....
ACTION = CONSEQUENCE
Think about later... FIRST. This whole modern "live for now, because you do not know what tomorrow may hold" is a bunch of CRAP that is designed to allow people cast their inhibitions aside in the name of pleasure. But it holds ZERO weight in the real world. IN the real world, tomorrow DOES come.
See my thread about being grateful.
I think this was an injust racist death penalty. I dunno, maybe because I'm against the death penalty or that I think Arnold is just a bunch of BS.
''If you gave these blacks a country to run, they would run it down the tubes." -Arnold
http://www.arnoldexposed.com/
''If you gave these blacks a country to run, they would run it down the tubes." -Arnold
http://www.arnoldexposed.com/
Ah, ah, ahhhhhhhh <wags finger>
Labeling people thus, just RUINS any real point you are trying to make.
Besides, shall we talk about the behaviour of the organization Tookie built? Shall we talk about why there is a "African American" month, "Hispanic-American" month, but no "White-Anglo Saxon" month?
Are you going to hide behind your race your whole life Juicy? Or are you going to live it, free from the bonds you unknowingly place on yourself and just find somebody to BLAME for your problems?
If he is innocent, how did the PROOF not come out in the 24 years he had to produce it? If he was really innocent, why did he not spend those years looking for that proof, instead of writing books?
You are defending the indefencible.
Labeling people thus, just RUINS any real point you are trying to make.
Besides, shall we talk about the behaviour of the organization Tookie built? Shall we talk about why there is a "African American" month, "Hispanic-American" month, but no "White-Anglo Saxon" month?
Are you going to hide behind your race your whole life Juicy? Or are you going to live it, free from the bonds you unknowingly place on yourself and just find somebody to BLAME for your problems?
If he is innocent, how did the PROOF not come out in the 24 years he had to produce it? If he was really innocent, why did he not spend those years looking for that proof, instead of writing books?
You are defending the indefencible.
But who are they to say when its his time to die? Again just MY belief, I think this execution was wrong, you don't have to agree with me, you think Tookie deserved the death penalty, fine that's you, sorry but I'm going to stick to my belief on this whole execution and hopefully they'll find the truth........... so he decided to write books, instead of proving his innocence, he's trying to help others, not just him.
You think people do stuff on purpose, that he WANTED all these mass murders over some crayon colors. People aren't perfect, people make mistakes. Action = consquence, okay more violence, lets kill everyone who's every corrupted society, cause more problems. People can't commit errors? Every person who has AIDS, deserves to dies, because they had unprotective sex? Everyone who smokes they deserve to die from lung cancer? Is this what you want, for people to suffer, they are already suffering enough, why MORE suffering?