One step forward yesterday, one step back today

[Pam111]

That's a scary situation. Hopefully, the dog escaped and it wasn't let out by stupid owners. Maybe....
My idiot neighbors will let their unleashed dog run over "to say hi" to my dogs if I have them out in my front yard. "oh, she's friendly." Yeah, who says mine are. They are, but that's not the point.

 

[Chewbecca]

I think the dog DID manage to escape the house, and I say this only because I've never seen the dog off leash before.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

I...I didn't snap on anyone. I never got a hold of the dog after I put Ella away.
I couldn't find it.

There was NO owner in sight.
I understand if a dog gets out of a house, my god, I know mistakes happen (I'm the LAST person to expect owners to be 100% perfect).

Part of me freaked out because of past experiences and I know what my dog can do, and I NEVER want to see that again. Another part of me freaked out because if Ella WOULD HAVE bitten this dog and hurt it, what the heck would I do? What do you do in a situation like that? I wouldn't even know what to do because there were no owners around.

I feel a little better, my headache went away but my shoulders hurt terribly.
hahaha, I'm just falling apart.

Oh I know you didn't snap. But sometimes things happen.. even to the best and most responsible and careful of all of us. That was my point. I consider myself to be a pretty damned responsible owner. Someone opened my gate and one of my dogs took off and I had no idea until Banzai came to tell me. I hardly think that makes me stupid or irresponsible. My gate was secured until some idiot tried to get into the wrong backyard and my dogs very well could have paid the price. Thankfully, all are okay and thankfully Banzai is such a good boy.

You said the dog looked well cared for, I would hope that people that have taken such good care of their dog would not be so irresponsible. I know your experience was very scary and I'm sorry for that. I actually wonder if you should look at CL to see if someone is missing a dog.. and then inform them, if you find them, what could have happened. Maybe they aren't aware their dog can escape or did escape? And maybe they NEED to be aware of the potential of having an offleash dog unsupervised.

 

[Chewbecca]

Well, when I posted that the owners were stupid and irresponsible, it was because it didn't occur to me, at the time of posting that, that it COULD HAVE been an accident.

I just got back from a walk with her and not an off leash dog in sight. So, hopefully the people got their dog back.
I have a sneaking suspicion who the dog belongs to because the dog came out of the alley right next to my house.
And a lady down the alley owns a black lab, so I wonder if it was her dog.
The problem is, so many people own black labs in my neighborhood, I wouldn't know who to ask about it.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Would you recognize it if you saw it again? I know, sort of a trick question with it being a black lab, but it might behoove the dog's owner to be aware... and then if you find out she let her dog loose, rip her a new one.

 

[Bahamutt99]

Wow, Becca, my heartrate increased just reading that story. We've been there so many times, you just don't know. Mostly back in the day when I was walking some super-hots who would be overjoyed at a stray dog coming up to them. Its like what else can you do? Muzzle your dog so that the loose one can have a field day? Nuh uh. Not me. When push comes to chomp, I like knowing that if I can't deter the loose dog, my dogs are more than capable of defending themselves.

Ever think of carrying an air horn? That might deter a dog or two. It works on Priest.

 

[bubbatd]

If I understand this correctly , the Lab was loose and friendly but your dog had issues ?

 

[GSDlover_4ever]

If I understand this correctly , the Lab was loose and friendly but your dog had issues ?

But her dog was LEASHED and she was doing her part in being a responsible dog owner. I dont get the impression that her dog is constantly lunging barking and acting like a fool just walking down the street. The "friendly" dog approached her LEASHED dog. She has every right to walk her dog.

 

[noludoru]

I...I didn't snap on anyone. I never got a hold of the dog after I put Ella away.
I couldn't find it.

There was NO owner in sight.
I understand if a dog gets out of a house, my god, I know mistakes happen (I'm the LAST person to expect owners to be 100% perfect).

Part of me freaked out because of past experiences and I know what my dog can do, and I NEVER want to see that again. Another part of me freaked out because if Ella WOULD HAVE bitten this dog and hurt it, what the heck would I do? What do you do in a situation like that? I wouldn't even know what to do because there were no owners around.

I feel a little better, my headache went away but my shoulders hurt terribly.
hahaha, I'm just falling apart.

Hon, do you carry a breakstick with you? It might be useful if something happens.

If I understand this correctly , the Lab was loose and friendly but your dog had issues ?

Actually, the lab was loose and RUDE. Who the hell knows if it was friendly? Wagging tails mean nothing, I've seen dogs at FOHA who've wanted to attack me while wagging their tails. A dog who is truly FRIENDLY would have immediately given avoidance/appeasement signals and would not have approached Ella. Only a rude dog would have approached her, and only an off-leash dog, not under the control of a responsible owner, would have had the opportunity.

 

[GSDlover_4ever]

It doesnt get any better than having your dog on a line in the front yard and having some "thug" walk by with a pitbull PUPPY, and him "accidentally" dropping the leash so it could run up to your dog and "fight". Yet this was a 4month old PUPPY and came running up with kisses. Then the "thug" gets mad and grabs the leash and drags the puppy away. IDIOT

 

[Bahamutt99]

Lots of leashed dogs have issues with being approached (especially rudely) by loose dogs. Can you blame them?

 

[elegy]

loose, friendly, and RUDE. running up in another dog's face is extremely rude in dog-dog interaction.

 

[noludoru]

loose, friendly, and RUDE. running up in another dog's face is extremely rude in dog-dog interaction.

It is also often a challenge - and with a wagging tail can be mistaken for "friendly" behavior.

 

[Chewbecca]

If I understand this correctly , the Lab was loose and friendly but your dog had issues ?

Heck yeah my dog has issues with a RUDE lab running up into her face.
ESPECIALLY when she is on leash and the other dog is not.

Not every dog LOVES other dogs.


And, come on, Grammy. How long have I been posting here???
It's not secret that Ella doesn't like other dogs. I thought that was established a LONG time ago.

 

[bubbatd]

That I know !!! Your situation is different !! My near neighbor has the same problem with his Rottie ,,, he hates Ollie so we stay clear !!

 

[SizzleDog]

Lots of leashed dogs have issues with being approached (especially rudely) by loose dogs. Can you blame them?

Woe to the dog that runs up to Ronin and gets in his face - he has strong feelings about his personal bubble... feelings that say, "Stay the frak OUT or I'll try my hardest to remove your face!"

Oddly, he's fine at dog shows - but that might be because the dogs at shows are under control.

 

[dr2little]

I've only skimmed so if I'm repeating things already said here, oops.

I absolutely feel ya becca. This happend to Soph and I way back and the experience was so horrible for her that I have never walked her down my own street again.

No matter what, leash laws are there for everyones protection. I yelled my fool arse off just yesterday when some older gent. allowed his muzzled Jack off leash in our ON LEASH provincial park....the only "safe" place I take my dogs for that reason.

He gave me a smirk when I kindly but firmly asked him to put his dog on leash...when he did not, I dropped the F-BOMB as his dog approached and threatened to spray him....which I would have had he shown any signs of coming at Sophie.

I think that people need to realize that we all have the right to walk our dogs on leash and expect NOT to be approached by a dog off leash...friendly or not. Accidents do happen but boy, they sure can change the life of a responsible dog owner and her dog.

If you've ever had to deal with the after effects of what happens to your dog's emotional well being after an attack, no one would be wondering about whether the black lab was friendly or not.

It is VERY threatening for most dogs to be approached by an off leash dog while they are confined to a leash, add in the DA or fear factors and it can be devestating.

Sophie, my non-DA dog spent a good long time as my CLIENT in growl class to take care of that one incident where 2 little schnauzers tried to lay a smack down on her. To this day, if she's on leash....she absolutely would not want an off leash dog approaching her..and I don't blame her.
Because of that one seemingly small issue, Sophie, my "demo" dog has never been allowed back to help teach puppy class....

 

[Sweet72947]

I don't think I actually posted a thread about it on here, but the other day I was walking Daisy and two pit bulls rushed us. The male was nice, but the female was snarky, and Daisy was snarking back because she hates rude female dogs who get in her face (she is much more tolerant of males).

In my old neighborhood, in the Before Benji time, I was taking Daisy on a long walk around the whole neighborhood (it went in a big horseshoe shape). A large golden retriever comes streaking at us with his owner 20 feet behind shouting "its ok, he just wants to see your dog!" Um yeah, but Daisy's not to keen on rude offleash dogs who run right up to us. Woe to that golden retriever if he were to run up to a DA dog.

My friend is buying a townhouse in a decent neighborhood. On her street, which is sort of a cul de sac, there is a rather lovely looking rottweiler. Both times I have been in that neighborhood (once to see the outside of the house with my friend, and today to see the inside) I have seen that rottweiler off leash in front of his owner's house; today he was lying right next to the public sidewalk. His owners were outside. He seems well behaved and well cared for, so hopefully my friend won't encounter any problems when she takes her dog for a walk there in the future.

 

[Chewbecca]

That I know !!! Your situation is different !! My near neighbor has the same problem with his Rottie ,,, he hates Ollie so we stay clear !!

Grammy, if you know this, then what was the meaning of your other post?
If you know it already, I don't understand posting something like that for clarification. If you know something already, you don't need clarification.

 

[Miakoda]

Having had one of my dogs just get out of my yard without my knowing, I sure would hate to be at the receiving end of your anger. We don't know the situation of the black lab, but we DO know that you are a responsible owner and that both you and Ella are okay, which we are thankful for. Hope your headache goes away quick. ((HUGS))

This is a VERY touchy subject for me. In a way, I see your point. But MY dog DIED...was killed....all because someone's dog escaped out the front door when it wasn't closed properly. Not tomention that the dog also planted it's teeth into my upper thigh which has resulted in some nasty scars.

So we DO have a right to be angry. I understand dogs get out. But I don't accept excuses. It's just the way it is with me.