nose piercings
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I agree with the last few posters.
I think they are unprofessional, doesn't mean I am against tattoos and piercings. They are not my thing, but they definitely look good on some people and I have no problem with them.
Isn't it kind of similiar in an office situation or a job requiring a uniform?
For example, my dad runs a business and has about 10 employees. It's a computer type job, and his employees frequently go to client's houses or work places to fix their computers. My dad implemented a rule right from the start saying that employees were not allowed to wear jeans, and must wear business slacks and a clean, white shirt.
Technically, you could argue that them not being allowed to wear whatever they heck they wanted was forbidding them from 'expressing' themselves.
I think on your free time, go ahead and express yourself. But you have to keep in mind that in many jobs, you aren't just representing yourself, but a whole company/ministry, what have you. So it isn't all about you at work, sorry
I think they are unprofessional, doesn't mean I am against tattoos and piercings. They are not my thing, but they definitely look good on some people and I have no problem with them.
Isn't it kind of similiar in an office situation or a job requiring a uniform?
For example, my dad runs a business and has about 10 employees. It's a computer type job, and his employees frequently go to client's houses or work places to fix their computers. My dad implemented a rule right from the start saying that employees were not allowed to wear jeans, and must wear business slacks and a clean, white shirt.
Technically, you could argue that them not being allowed to wear whatever they heck they wanted was forbidding them from 'expressing' themselves.
I think on your free time, go ahead and express yourself. But you have to keep in mind that in many jobs, you aren't just representing yourself, but a whole company/ministry, what have you. So it isn't all about you at work, sorry
I agree with the last few posters.
I think they are unprofessional, doesn't mean I am against tattoos and piercings. They are not my thing, but they definitely look good on some people and I have no problem with them.
Isn't it kind of similiar in an office situation or a job requiring a uniform?
For example, my dad runs a business and has about 10 employees. It's a computer type job, and his employees frequently go to client's houses or work places to fix their computers. My dad implemented a rule right from the start saying that employees were not allowed to wear jeans, and must wear business slacks and a clean, white shirt.
Technically, you could argue that them not being allowed to wear whatever they heck they wanted was forbidding them from 'expressing' themselves.
I think on your free time, go ahead and express yourself. But you have to keep in mind that in many jobs, you aren't just representing yourself, but a whole company/ministry, what have you. So it isn't all about you at work, sorry
I think they are unprofessional, doesn't mean I am against tattoos and piercings. They are not my thing, but they definitely look good on some people and I have no problem with them.
Isn't it kind of similiar in an office situation or a job requiring a uniform?
For example, my dad runs a business and has about 10 employees. It's a computer type job, and his employees frequently go to client's houses or work places to fix their computers. My dad implemented a rule right from the start saying that employees were not allowed to wear jeans, and must wear business slacks and a clean, white shirt.
Technically, you could argue that them not being allowed to wear whatever they heck they wanted was forbidding them from 'expressing' themselves.
I think on your free time, go ahead and express yourself. But you have to keep in mind that in many jobs, you aren't just representing yourself, but a whole company/ministry, what have you. So it isn't all about you at work, sorry
my highschool didn't allow teacher to have visible tattoos/piercings (other than one hole in each earlobe for girls) same rule applied to students
I do think its unprofessional. just a personal thing.
and I know that my dean, as well as a few private schools that I've done some work for... shied away from hiring professors with nose/facial piercings.
Honestly, I dunno if I could take a teacher as seriously if he/she had a nose piercing or a bunch of facial peircings/tats. I really don't know why.. I feel like she would seem more like one of college classmates than a professor.
I've always had professors that just came off a certain way. In highschool, our professors wore robes, and never any casual clothing (tshirts, jeans, etc..) the rules as far as appearance/uniform were strict for both teachers and students. so of course thinking about a teacher with a nose piercing is really foreign to me.. it would be so weird. I would probably think the teacher is some young teachers aid/substitute
and honestly, I've noticed that when a prof does have a nose piercing/tattoo. students do feel like they can relax/get away with stuff/bend the rules. it makes the teacher feel more like a fellow student, not really someone of authority.
I do think its unprofessional. just a personal thing.
and I know that my dean, as well as a few private schools that I've done some work for... shied away from hiring professors with nose/facial piercings.
Honestly, I dunno if I could take a teacher as seriously if he/she had a nose piercing or a bunch of facial peircings/tats. I really don't know why.. I feel like she would seem more like one of college classmates than a professor.
I've always had professors that just came off a certain way. In highschool, our professors wore robes, and never any casual clothing (tshirts, jeans, etc..) the rules as far as appearance/uniform were strict for both teachers and students. so of course thinking about a teacher with a nose piercing is really foreign to me.. it would be so weird. I would probably think the teacher is some young teachers aid/substitute
and honestly, I've noticed that when a prof does have a nose piercing/tattoo. students do feel like they can relax/get away with stuff/bend the rules. it makes the teacher feel more like a fellow student, not really someone of authority.
so it comes down to a lot of you having hang ups about piercings...
I am shocked at how superficial some people are comming across as, I am glad I actually know you ppls lol or I would think you were all old biddies who were out to make the world back like the 'good old days'. You can't take someone seriously because they have a tatt or a piercing? That is YOUR hang up not theirs. Accepting people as they choose to be not how YOU expect them to be is important when it comes to tolerance. If you think a lawyer is less effective if they have a nose ring down hire them. If you think some how a great dr is less competent if he has a tattoo (lol like the dr on Lost) then its your loss and don't use them.
I remember hearing teacher talk about when they were students how they (female teachers) couldn't wear pants or shorts. It was deemed 'unprofessional' for a woman to wear pants. In fact not that long ago simply being a woman or a minority made you automatically 'unprofessional'. IMO people need to get over their hang ups, not try to make everyone else conformist. If someone is neat and clean and acts in a professional manner and does their job well that is what is important.
But then again where I live it doesn't seem to be a big deal.
I am shocked at how superficial some people are comming across as, I am glad I actually know you ppls lol or I would think you were all old biddies who were out to make the world back like the 'good old days'. You can't take someone seriously because they have a tatt or a piercing? That is YOUR hang up not theirs. Accepting people as they choose to be not how YOU expect them to be is important when it comes to tolerance. If you think a lawyer is less effective if they have a nose ring down hire them. If you think some how a great dr is less competent if he has a tattoo (lol like the dr on Lost) then its your loss and don't use them.
I remember hearing teacher talk about when they were students how they (female teachers) couldn't wear pants or shorts. It was deemed 'unprofessional' for a woman to wear pants. In fact not that long ago simply being a woman or a minority made you automatically 'unprofessional'. IMO people need to get over their hang ups, not try to make everyone else conformist. If someone is neat and clean and acts in a professional manner and does their job well that is what is important.
But then again where I live it doesn't seem to be a big deal.
I don't see anyone here trying to MAKE anyone comform to their standards LOL.
I'm not about to go out campaigning that people who work with my food should all be banned from piercings. I'll just try to go to a person that doesn't have a nose or tongue ring because I just can't help but think of boogers and germs LOL and YES that is my problem and i'm not trying to make anyone change for me. I just go to where I'm comfortable.
not liking something and making people conform are two different things
I'm not about to go out campaigning that people who work with my food should all be banned from piercings. I'll just try to go to a person that doesn't have a nose or tongue ring because I just can't help but think of boogers and germs LOL and YES that is my problem and i'm not trying to make anyone change for me. I just go to where I'm comfortable.
not liking something and making people conform are two different things
I completely agree with Dekka's viewpoint, and in a perfect world, that would be that, but it's not a perfect world and the majority of the people most with professional type jobs deal with on a regular basis just do not share that enlightenment.
You have to decide what is more important to you -- making your own aesthetic statement or potentially alienating the very people you wanted to help.
You have to decide what is more important to you -- making your own aesthetic statement or potentially alienating the very people you wanted to help.
I have no issue with piercings, tattoos, etc. But the bottom line is that people are judged--and we all know appearances are a large part of how people are judged. It is not limited to body modifications-- sometimes it is actually something people have no control of like skin color, body size, etc. And truth is, all of how we present our selves is judged--like it or not. This particular question seems to really have some geographical connotations that need to be considered.
But I stand by my original comment--working with preschoolers with special needs, they are frequently distracted by jewelry--something on your nose (that is screwed in --I learned something new there)--could really hurt when a little one grabs at it!
Anyway--I also have confidence that BP will make the decision she knows will work for her situation.
That's true -- partly. Some choose their fields of endeavor because they want to make a difference. Earning a living is a have-to type of thing, but the choice of how you do it can be based on something imminently more fulfilling than money
It's a difference of making a difference or just making a paycheck. Nothing wrong with just making a paycheck, but sometimes that's not enough reason.
It's a difference of making a difference or just making a paycheck. Nothing wrong with just making a paycheck, but sometimes that's not enough reason.
My son doesn't have a piercing, but he likes to have some facial hair....the scruffy look, I call it. He has just gotten his first professional job in an office. He has to wear a tie to work. He has gone in quite often with the stubble.
I am sure that is not considered professional, but I have not convinced him yet.
I know some people who work for his company, and one has told me he's young, and they won't worry about that. Another worker has said they won't mention it to him, but there is a chance he would not be up for certain promotions because of it.
I've given him my opinion, but he does not have to take it.
I am sure that is not considered professional, but I have not convinced him yet.
I know some people who work for his company, and one has told me he's young, and they won't worry about that. Another worker has said they won't mention it to him, but there is a chance he would not be up for certain promotions because of it.
I've given him my opinion, but he does not have to take it.
Wow that statement is disturbing. Coming from someone who works at a place where im rarely paid much of anything any more. But I work there because I love those people and the horses/kids I work with. Even if I was paid nothing I would still work there. Even if I had to get a second job. I would still go back and work at the first place. Because I could care less how much im paid to be there.
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How is it disturbing?
What's wrong with income being a factor in the profession you choose?
I know what I like, and I will go into that field because it interests me. However, I will also factor in the income. Is there something wrong with wanting to have a nice house, wanting to be able to afford multiple dogs and wanting to be able to afford to DO things with those dogs?
See, this makes no sense to me. Great, you love your job that you are payed for, that's awesome. Some people have pay rent, make ends meet, support a family, etc. Working for money is not wrong.
What's wrong with income being a factor in the profession you choose?
I know what I like, and I will go into that field because it interests me. However, I will also factor in the income. Is there something wrong with wanting to have a nice house, wanting to be able to afford multiple dogs and wanting to be able to afford to DO things with those dogs?
See, this makes no sense to me. Great, you love your job that you are payed for, that's awesome. Some people have pay rent, make ends meet, support a family, etc. Working for money is not wrong.