New Seattle Dog Boutique Offends Locals

[ravennr]

For one thing, girls have shirts with much worse printed on them.
I commented on a thread on this topic, on another forum. Since I don't feel like re-typing everything, I'll just paste my opinion.

As far as children...please. I can't walk anywhere without hearing profanity and vulgarity at least twice every few minutes. I highly doubt that anyone could honestly say that a sign high above the street has as much impact as the crap people say walking on the street right next to the children/families.
I know a lot of good people who are offended by general profanity, and I know for a fact those same people have sworn up storms in front of their children, or at least loud enough that they could obviously hear.
My two year old neice picks up on it very quickly, but we managed to correct it out of her, and let her know not to say certain things. She also had a hard time saying "The Fox and The Hound", and it came out sounding like something very different indeed. A little coaching helped that.

I really have a problem with parents who try so hard to sheild their children from the real world, and proceed to tell them they should watch the news more often, or let them watch cartoons where people shoot eachother (regardless of the fact that it's supposed to be a kids show).
They will be saying much worse come middle school, and probably even before that. A suggestion to worried parents...start homeschooling before it's 'too late'. Order all of your needs online. Don't ever turn the tv on. Rid the house of books and magazines. And don't let the kid have any friends whose parents aren't doing the exact same thing.

Now, as for the swastika...the history is not 'vicious'. The symbol was taken and twisted to mean something other than what it originally meant. The fact that, now, people cannot wear it with it's original meaning intended saddens me. JMO.

 

[tempura tantrum]

The word, B!tch and it's meaning (female dog) is not an old, obsolete original word. It is still very much a present day, used word for female dog. Because it is used in another connotation does not make the true meaning of the word immoral or derogatory. That some people choose to ignore or be ignorant of the definition of the word, (female dog) is not the rest of the world's responsibility. And it isn't the store keeper's responsibility to protect society from their own misinterpretation or ignorance of the real meaning of the word.

Exactly. There's nothing obsolete or uncouth about the word itself- only about the people who choose to use it in a less than appealing manner. If these parents are worried about "what to say to their children" I suggest they just take them to a dog show, and find out what it REALLY means. The shock value of the word was completely lost when I attended my first dog show at 8 years old, and realized that people were throwing the word around without a second thought. It's hard to see it as an insult when you realize the definition.

I'd love to see some of these people go to a dog show and suggest the catalogs be printed with "6-9 month puppy female dogs," "open canines of the female persuasion," "bred-by exhibitor's lady canids..." so as not to offend their children's sweet sensibilities (oh please...like the SAME words aren't coming out of their own parent mouths, and used in a less than correct sense).

At the end of the day, it's a DOG STORE. The term is perfectly correct.

 

[SharkyX]

That's not my logic. It's not logic at all, really, but whatever it is, it came from you.

Then perhaps you could clarify the below statement for me:

It's not at all ridiculous to compare a misogynistic slur to a symbol of the Nazis. Their hearts are in the same place.

That above statement implies that you believe that people who use the term bitch in the context you describe and the people who use it, is comparable to Nazi Germany during the WW2 era.

Now perhaps I'm being overly sensitive to the issue, so if this is the case if someone could please let me know that'd be great.

You were the one who insisted on comparing misogyny with anti-Semitism.

And actually that was you with your original statement about opening stores with the swastica, whose meaning has been (possibly forever) changed after WW2, to the use of the term bitch, which is still defined as being a female dog and is used widely on this forum and others to refer to a female dog, rediculous.

 

[terrier terror]

Love it.

I'd love to see some of these people go to a dog show and suggest the catalogs be printed with "6-9 month puppy female dogs," "open canines of the female persuasion," "bred-by exhibitor's lady canids..." so as not to offend their children's sweet sensibilities (oh please...like the SAME words aren't coming out of their own parent mouths, and used in a less than correct sense).

I want to be there if someone ever does suggest that, just might need a laugh that day.

I think it's funny so many people are making a fuss about it.

 

[Whisper]

I would not think people would get so upset over this. We all know "bitch" means female dog and if a person, especially a child were to be bothered by it, then they already know what the other meaning is and it's not the sign's fault they know it.
It's clear the store is centered around supplies for female dogs.

BTW, comparing the symbolism of the word "bitch" and the symbolism of the swastika is comparing apples and oranges, bricks to cheese, bombs to fairies; you get my drift.

 

[SharkyX]

They shuold probably also phone the good people at Mr Christie and inform them that they should stop calling them Ritz Crackers, as cracker is a racial slur for white people and those cracker boxes are everywhere... ruining social gatherings.

Oh boy and everybody named Richard who shortened it to Dick... should probably just throw those people in jail because they are using a slang term for male anatomy infron of small children.

And the list of things like that goes on.

I wonder how many shirts that say PornStar and 100% Bitch and what not get purchased everyday from those gag stores.

 

[casablanca1]

That above statement implies that you believe that people who use the term bitch in the context you describe and the people who use it, is comparable to Nazi Germany during the WW2 era.

I said their hearts were in the same place; I didn't say that using a slur was the same as murder. That was your invention.

And actually that was you with your original statement about opening stores with the swastica, whose meaning has been (possibly forever) changed after WW2, to the use of the term bitch, which is still defined as being a female dog and is used widely on this forum and others to refer to a female dog, rediculous.

I mentioned the swastika in my first post here to point up the absurdity of pretending that simply using a word with a vicious history can 'reclaim' it. You responded by making the comparison. You started that ball rolling, not me.

Now perhaps I'm being overly sensitive to the issue, so if this is the case if someone could please let me know that'd be great.

Overreacting to imaginary slights is called hysteria, not sensitivity.

 

[casablanca1]

Now, as for the swastika...the history is not 'vicious'...

It is now.

 

[SharkyX]

Overreacting to imaginary slights is called hysteria, not sensitivity.

Somebody with credibility not involved in our little discussion thanks.

 

[Renee750il]

You're just fine, Sharky. I wouldn't say you were the one reacting in a hysterically over-sensitive manner

 

[TopShelfPets]

If it was a store for anything else then i'd wonder about the owners, but BECAUSE its a store for dogs..

there is NOTHING to be offended about.. if youd ont like it, dont look at it and dont shop in it!

but it's not. it's a store for bitches.

to anyone that's been in there, is the product line geared for female dogs? Or do they have boy-dog clothes too?

anyway, it's used as a proper noun. "the word" is not being directed towards anyone. Without context or CONNOTATION, it is just a word, which (without context) means female dog. Which is mostly only insulting in the US/Canada anyhow, as i understand it. If you go to france and call someone a female dog, they will look at you funny. To be insulting there, you have to call them a cow.

 

[Renee750il]

but it's not. it's a store for bitches.

to anyone that's been in there, is the product line geared for female dogs? Or do they have boy-dog clothes too?

Maybe for cross-dressing male dogs?

 

[tempura tantrum]

but it's not. it's a store for bitches.

to anyone that's been in there, is the product line geared for female dogs? Or do they have boy-dog clothes too?

It is VERY much geared toward female dogs. I assume you could put some of the fluffy pink feather collars on male dogs, or perhaps do the same with the (real) magnetic diamond earrings (yes...earrings for dogs, LOL), but fact of the matter is, the place is completely "girlified." Basically, it's geared toward people that want to deck their pooches out a la Paris Hilton style.

I can't remember one product in the store that was geared to *any* sort of male clientele (dog or human).

 

[casablanca1]

You're just fine, Sharky. I wouldn't say you were the one reacting in a hysterically over-sensitive manner

Oh, please. I'm just making an argument. She's the one asking for input as to whether she's 'too sensitive' about the Holocaust

 

[Renee750il]

It is VERY much geared toward female dogs. I assume you could put some of the fluffy pink feather collars on male dogs, or perhaps do the same with the (real) magnetic diamond earrings (yes...earrings for dogs, LOL), but fact of the matter is, the place is completely "girlified." Basically, it's geared toward people that want to deck their pooches out a la Paris Hilton style.

I can't remember one product in the store that was geared to *any* sort of male clientele (dog or human).

The diamond "studs" would be perfect on frisbee playing dogs, lol! Ever get a load of the diamond ear studs on wide receivers?

 

[SharkyX]

Oh, please. I'm just making an argument. She's the one asking for input as to whether she's 'too sensitive' about the Holocaust

She??
Wow... did I have a sex change and not know about it?

Oh boy is Jenn ever gonna be disapointed...
Ah well, I guess then I can get myself a bumper sticker describing myself as being a bitch at least.

 

[Renee750il]

Well, Sharky, at least you know you're a "sensitive" guy

 

[SharkyX]

LMAO oh stop

 

[Renee750il]

Now don't go getting hysterical on me, Sharky

 

[bubbatd]

If I lived there, I'd start a line of bumper stickers " My dog is a bitch ".