New Seattle Dog Boutique Offends Locals

[casablanca1]

To heck with the "what will we tell our children?!" how about some question of how self-hating it is for a woman to open a store for women that uses a derogatory name for us?

In the process, she said, one of her goals is to reclaim the word in its original meaning, a female dog, as opposed to a derogatory term for a woman. "Our store is a dog store, but the concept and philosophy is directed specifically toward women," she said.

Why stop there? Why not open a Judaica store with a swastika for a logo? Better yet, why not reclaim the original meanings of words like 'outspoken' or 'individualistic' which, to our ancestors, meant 'dead serf.' This idea you can reclaim words by ignoring the widely accepted meaning is ridiculous.

 

[SharkyX]

I woul dgo there just to get pictures of the sign, kinda like when I went to hell to get pictures of that sign. (There is a town called Hell in Grand Cayman... kinda funny standing under a sign that says "Welcome to Hell").

She'll probably attract more people to the area then anything else.

 

[Doberluv]

Why stop there? Why not open a Judaica store with a swastika for a logo? Better yet, why not reclaim the original meanings of words like 'outspoken' or 'individualistic' which, to our ancestors, meant 'dead serf.' This idea you can reclaim words by ignoring the widely accepted meaning is ridiculous.

The word, B!tch and it's meaning (female dog) is not an old, obsolete original word. It is still very much a present day, used word for female dog. Because it is used in another connotation does not make the true meaning of the word immoral or derogatory. That some people choose to ignore or be ignorant of the definition of the word, (female dog) is not the rest of the world's responsibility. And it isn't the store keeper's responsibility to protect society from their own misinterpretation or ignorance of the real meaning of the word.

I am a very conservative kind of person and do not approve of vulgarity in public. If this were a word which is debase, impure or vulgar, I would be the first to object. But it's not. I don't think those people who are having a tizzy fit have a leg to stand on.

 

[Renee750il]

Anyone who has their panties in a wad over the store name should download Meredith Brooks' song, Bitch . . . and listen

 

[SharkyX]

Why stop there? Why not open a Judaica store with a swastika for a logo?

Hmmm... I'm going to go out on a limb and say because people using the word bitch for a logo didn't slaugher millions of women in the same way the nazi's using the swastika slaughtered millions of jews.

It's a fairly rediculous comparison your making here.

And the widely accepted meaning depends on who you talk to. On here and all kinds of dog forums, shows and even in the dictionary, the definition is still female dog.

 

[Doberluv]

Hmmm... I'm going to go out on a limb and say because people using the word bitch for a logo didn't slaugher millions of women in the same way the nazi's using the swastika slaughtered millions of jews.

It's a fairly rediculous comparison your making here.

And the widely accepted meaning depends on who you talk to. On here and all kinds of dog forums, shows and even in the dictionary, the definition is still female dog.
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[whatszmatter]

I'd say if people are offended by it, they probably deserve to be. grow some skin, it doesn't need to be so thin all the time.

It's her store, it's not that offensive, unless you really want to make it that way. I use the term bitch and bitches so many times a day I can't even count them, almost all are in reference to dogs. But back to the topic, its her store, she's appealing to a certain type of crowd, those that are offended won't shop there, those that feel there dog should be a highly pampered, primped up machine, will. Its still america, and if you're concerned that your child will be offended, nows a good time to teach them something, and I really like the excuse that it will "ruin family pictures" during parades and such?????? Give me a break, they're really grasping at straws on that one. When excuses get that rediculous, its easy to see what type of person you're dealing with.

 

[casablanca1]

Hmmm... I'm going to go out on a limb and say because people using the word bitch for a logo didn't slaugher millions of women in the same way the nazi's using the swastika slaughtered millions of jews. It's a fairly rediculous comparison your making here.

No, it isn't. Anti-semitism has a very long and ugly history, as has racism
and any other prejudice that's basically called "we in the majority think you're different than us and we want you dead." But misogyny goes right to the bone in human history, born from physical differences that have allowed one half (or slightly less) of the human race to dehumanize the other. It's not at all ridiculous to compare a misogynistic slur to a symbol of the Nazis. Their hearts are in the same place.

 

[whatszmatter]

I"ve heard more than a few women say "all men are dogs". I want that word stricken from the English language. Don't utter it, don't say it, don't think it, don't put into the written word, and don't put it out in public. I'll be offended

Dogs have been thought of scavenging mongrels worth very little to society, that thought is deeply rooted in history as well. In fact they are still considered to be that in most countries besides this one. I think I have a pretty good case.

So on this canine board, I hope to see anytime the dreaded "D" word is used I better see this *** or edited by mod.

 

[sparks19]

I"ve heard more than a few women say "all men are dogs". I want that word stricken from the English language. Don't utter it, don't say it, don't think it, don't put into the written word, and don't put it out in public. I'll be offended

Dogs have been thought of scavenging mongrels worth very little to society, that thought is deeply rooted in history as well. In fact they are still considered to be that in most countries besides this one. I think I have a pretty good case.

So on this canine board, I hope to see anytime the dreaded "D" word is used I better see this *** or edited by mod.

LOL not to mention, my husband hasn't gotten in an uproar about Dick's sporting goods. yes it's a name but it's also a derogatory word for men.... have it stricken from the record immediately. LOL and Cracker barrel.... are they trying to be racist towards whites?

and Hooters.... *gasp* they should start calling it "breasts".

I can't say the word bitch really offends me that much being a woman and all.... I don't die a little inside everytime it's said.... I haven't seen anyone killed by the use of the word. In fact WOMEN use the term more than men do LOL.


What a silly insignificant thing to be offended by.... perhaps people should take all the energy they are putting into being offended by such a stupid thing and put it towards something that really matters and really hurts people.

BTW, this is America.... you have the freedom of speech... not the freedom to not be offended

 

[bubbatd]

It's ridiculous to compare the two . One is a word ....the other a symbol which stand for hate .

 

[SharkyX]

No, it isn't. Anti-semitism has a very long and ugly history, as has racism
and any other prejudice that's basically called "we in the majority think you're different than us and we want you dead." But misogyny goes right to the bone in human history, born from physical differences that have allowed one half (or slightly less) of the human race to dehumanize the other. It's not at all ridiculous to compare a misogynistic slur to a symbol of the Nazis. Their hearts are in the same place.

So by following your logic, if I were to call somebody a bitch, that is comparable to beating them, killing there family and throwing them in a gas chamber.
Even using the term in its most malicious form still pales in comparison to the acts associated, that continue to be associated with the swastika.

Has anybody in the last 50 years been beaten by a group of people using the word bitch as there slogan? How about groups of people using a swastika as there symbol?
How many hate groups are there now using the swastika?
How many women driving around with a bumper sticker or a t-shirt that refers to themselves as being a bitch that participate in the same kinds of actions as the people wearing the swastika?

 

[Denaluvscorgis]

It surprises me that anyone in Seattle would get offended by something like that....silly!!

 

[SummerRiot]

If it was a store for anything else then i'd wonder about the owners, but BECAUSE its a store for dogs..

there is NOTHING to be offended about.. if youd ont like it, dont look at it and dont shop in it!

 

[Renee750il]

It surprises me that anyone in Seattle would get offended by something like that....silly!!

There's only one explanation, Dena . . . they need to switch to decaf

 

[Doberluv]

It surprises me that anyone in Seattle would get offended by something like that....silly!!

If this store were on Capitol Hill, it would pale in comparrison to the weirdness up there. LOL. I think it's too close to the Scandanavian district (Wallingford, Ballard) where there are tons of retired, older generation from the "old country." On the other hand, it's close to the University of Washington, so you'd think it wouldn't phase that age group.

There's only one explanation, Dena . . . they need to switch to decaf

ROFLOL!!! That is a good one! Unfortunately, that will never happen. If anyone switched, there'd be ambulances coming with equipment to give caffeine blood transfusions. That is the life support system in Seattle.

Take it from me, as an ex-Seattle (area) ite.

 

[Denaluvscorgis]

If this store were on Capitol Hill, it would pale in comparrison to the weirdness up there. LOL. I think it's too close to the Scandanavian district (Wallingford, Ballard) where there are tons of retired, older generation from the "old country." On the other hand, it's close to the University of Washington, so you'd think it wouldn't phase that age group.



ROFLOL!!! That is a good one! Unfortunately, that will never happen. If anyone switched, there'd be ambulances coming with equipment to give caffeine blood transfusions. That is the life support system in Seattle.

Take it from me, as an ex-Seattle (area) ite.

HAHAHA.......so true!!!!

 

[krisykris]

I think it's a cute name and concept. People need to lighten up

 

[casablanca1]

So by following your logic, if I were to call somebody a bitch, that is comparable to beating them, killing there family and throwing them in a gas chamber. Even using the term in its most malicious form still pales in comparison to the acts associated, that continue to be associated with the swastika.

Wow. That's so.... I just don't know what to say. I'd like to remind you that I brought up the swastika only to show how silly it is to claim that simply using something with a vicious past can cleanse it. You were the one who insisted on comparing misogyny with anti-Semitism. I was happy to make the argument I made about the two, but I never said anything about name-calling being the equivalent of mass murder. That's not my logic. It's not logic at all, really, but whatever it is, it came from you.

Has anybody in the last 50 years been beaten by a group of people using the word bitch as there slogan? How about groups of people using a swastika as there symbol? How many hate groups are there now using the swastika? How many women driving around with a bumper sticker or a t-shirt that refers to themselves as being a bitch that participate in the same kinds of actions as the people wearing the swastika?

How many women are beaten, raped and killed each year by men who embrace the word 'bitch' as if it were our given names? Just because they're not organized doesn't mean they're not brothers.

 

[sparks19]

You can't blame the word for sick mens actions.

Besides.... it was made PERFECTLY clear it was in reference to DOGS... not women. and the female dogs have owned the word longer than us humans.