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I don't agree with breeding mixed breeds purposely. I bought my mixed from a breeder though. He's a pitbull mix and the only reason that I bought him from a breeder instead of going to a shelter is because I have a young daughter and I wanted to make sure that he grew up in the proper enviroment, my husband didn't want to risk the dog snapping for some unknown reason. This way we know how he was raised and what to look out for, if he had any food aggression or anything which he doesn't. I really wanted a pit and this was the only way to put my husband's mind at ease about getting a pitbull.
 
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I am completely against mixed-breeding also. I don't know how many dogs are euthanized in Australia, but here in the US of A, five million dogs are euthanized every year. 750,000 dogs and cats are gassed to death annually in Lousiana alone - that's ONE state. 11,000,00 pets are killed every year. And many of these deaths are because of irresponsible breeding (this includes mixed-breeding).

You can find a great mixed-breed at a shelter. If you want a mixed-breed dog, why not rescue one? I have to mixed dogs - a canaan/terrier mix and a border collie/shepherd mix. They're wonderful, beautiful, and adorable dogs, I love them to death. But just because I love them and just because they rock this world :))) doesn't mean they should have puppies.
 

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>On average out of the dogs who come in about 3% or less are purebreds. I think that says something.<

It means that you live in a more rural area. In more densely populated areas, the rate is more like 50/50.
The shelter we have here in the BIG city has almost all mixed breeds as well. It is rare that you ever come across a purebred in the shelter here.

I think people who breed purebreds can also be "bad" breeders and contribute to pet over population, but it is a fact that mixes are often homeless well before purebreds and thats just the way it is.

I think if you breed any dog, you need to prove yourself worthy. I don't think breeding should be a right, I think it should be a priviledge after you prove that your main focus is to improve the breed and you are educated about breeding and rearing puppies. I am shocked that so many people are willing to put their bitches at risk for the "experience" of breedig a litter. My goal someday, is to become a breeder, BUT ONLY after I have become very accomplished in the show ring, worked under my mentor for years and have attended many health and conformation seminars. Evan after I have accomplished all of this, I will still be so terrified and barley able to breathe at the thought of loosing one of my girls. I want to breed pugs because they are my passion in life and my hobby, but I don't know if I could ever forgive myself or deal with the loss of one of them from breeding. I don't think people realize that things can and do go wrong and the choice to breed has to be weighed heavily. :(
 
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The shelter we have here in the BIG city has almost all mixed breeds as well. It is rare that you ever come across a purebred in the shelter here. I think people who breed purebreds can also be "bad" breeders and contribute to pet over population, but it is a fact that mixes are often homeless well before purebreds and thats just the way it is.(
Didn't mean to call anyone a clodhopper, just saying that the mutt/purebred ratio is much more even in densely populated regions. I live in NJ, in the Philadelphia metro area, where the shelters are packed with purebred dogs. More people, more $$$, more ego and more mobility. Dogs get bought for nice middle-class families who did their research and paid for a well-bred puppy, then get transferred and can't take Rover. Most of the shelters I've seen, there are three kinds of dogs - pits and pit mixes mainly from low-income and working-class neighborhoods and towns, retriever and spaniel and collie mixes mainly from working-class and lower-middle-class towns and neighborhoods, and the purebreds, mainly from McMansion developments and wealthy towns. The ratio, especially if you discount pits from both the pure and mix ranks, is close to even.
 
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I am completely against mixed-breeding also. I don't know how many dogs are euthanized in Australia, but here in the US of A, five million dogs are euthanized every year. 750,000 dogs and cats are gassed to death annually in Lousiana alone.
They GAS dogs and cats to death in LA?????? That's BARBARIC!!!!
 

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They GAS dogs and cats to death in LA?????? That's BARBARIC!!!!
And you don't even want to know what kind of death they suffer! Or euthanizing a cat with a needle into the heart (cringe). It is awful :(

The shelter we have here in the BIG city has almost all mixed breeds as well. It is rare that you ever come across a purebred in the shelter here.
I think people who breed purebreds can also be "bad" breeders and contribute to pet over population, but it is a fact that mixes are often homeless well before purebreds and thats just the way it is.
Thats the way it is here too. Maybe because the people in my area are not willing to hand something over if they paid a decent amount of money for it.
 

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Didn't mean to call anyone a clodhopper, just saying that the mutt/purebred ratio is much more even in densely populated regions. I live in NJ, in the Philadelphia metro area, where the shelters are packed with purebred dogs. More people, more $$$, more ego and more mobility. Dogs get bought for nice middle-class families who did their research and paid for a well-bred puppy, then get transferred and can't take Rover. Most of the shelters I've seen, there are three kinds of dogs - pits and pit mixes mainly from low-income and working-class neighborhoods and towns, retriever and spaniel and collie mixes mainly from working-class and lower-middle-class towns and neighborhoods, and the purebreds, mainly from McMansion developments and wealthy towns. The ratio, especially if you discount pits from both the pure and mix ranks, is close to even.
I live in a county where the cheapest house is 1000 square ft with barely a yard sold for $450,000. The cost of a dog is nothing for most people here, yet, 60% of the shelter dogs are pitt mixes. We have some very active breed rescue organizations but still, thats the numbers. I'm also near San Francisco and San Jose, both shelters have atleast 60% pitt mixes. Economics and population density really doesn't have as much of a factor that one would imagine.
 
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They GAS dogs and cats to death in LA?????? That's BARBARIC!!!!
Yup. I can't imagine what that kind of death is like - I hear they often get scared and attack eachother. If they aren't dead after one gassing, they're gassed again. :( :mad:
Injection of the euthanasia drug is much, much better, and much more humane IMO.
 

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It's so sad to me. The only dogs and cats that should be at Humane Societys are the ones found on the streets without a collar. Pure breds should be sent to rescues...any one who has an " accident" litter should have to pay to put up for adoption. AND be TOLD to spay !!!! I still feel there has to be more control of licencing dogs...Male and females ....neutered animals fees and breeders fees. People need to have to pay for their in tact animals.
 
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Yup. I can't imagine what that kind of death is like - I hear they often get scared and attack eachother. If they aren't dead after one gassing, they're gassed again. :( :mad:
Injection of the euthanasia drug is much, much better, and much more humane IMO.
Why would the gas them and not euthanize them humanly? Is it a cost issue?
 

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ok, i see all your points.
but just because it is "iresponsible" to breed two mixes doesnt mean there isnt a demand. Nearly every person we see that meets sophie wants a pup if she has any. But she is a little too old now so we won't breed her.
And reemeber, where I live, we don't have ANY shelters and any dogs that end up on the street usually end up either picked up by the pound or become camp dogs. We have very few purebreds in this town (ratio compared to mixes) and a lot of people lettheir dogs free roam :mad: so a lot of accident puppies are born, we have had to abortian daisy once because she ran away while on heat. And dogs always jump our fence when sophie is.
 

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And reemeber, where I live, we don't have ANY shelters and any dogs that end up on the street usually end up either picked up by the pound or become camp dogs.
Are you saying there's a difference between a pound and a shelter?
 

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no, sorry bout that, i thought about it after i posted it and it isnt.

we have an RSPCA but no shelter, we are currently trying to fundraise
 

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