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ok i'm not sure she is coming back but just in case:

i'm sry if you don't feel too welcome here but if you stick around you can get a lot of good advice from some peeps here. also i'd try looking around on yahoo or google and find a breed specific forum. there's a chance that on one of them they'd know exactly what to do or would have a greater understanding of the breed :) i am sure some of the people here have had the same kind of dog as you at one time or another but a forum dedicated to your dog might be better for you to get the knowledge you need right now :) also if you give your dog away make sure it goes to a home that knows of it's problems instead of just giving it to someone.
 
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LOL! Sorry, I just meant that a few comments look as though people haven't read any further to see that she does step back a little and say that she's sorry she started it that way, and she does capitulate.


Normally I would agree with you - but I think she felt the need to say that because her first post was a little, um, extreme! But yeah, I see what you're saying, its like saying, `Now, I'm not racist, but...' and then telling a racist joke!

Lively debates of differing opinions is what makes it great to live in a free society. If the original poster is gone, it is quite funny that we as a group can keep the argument going page after page after page. :)
 
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If the original poster is gone, it is quite funny that we as a group can keep the argument going page after page after page. :)
That is funny because I probably posted my long a** post way after!

And if she is still here, I didn't mean to put you down in any way. Since you said you never have had a dog and you didn't know what to do, I was trying to give you some info on your breed, and the hound group in general. They can be harder to train then most other breeds. BUT at the same time if a dog feels you don't like it, you are angery and frustrated with it, I don't see how you can train a dog in that situation. IMO of course.
 

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Originally Posted by brock23
If the original poster is gone, it is quite funny that we as a group can keep the argument going page after page after page
That's true - you should see this other forum that I'm on. The OP of one particular thread was BANNED after about five posts, because of his unbelievable attitude, and the thread is STILL going - mostly talking about nothing to do with the original topic, but still talking about the OP for the most part... It's very funny... :D
 

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Since you obviously have no experience with dogs, get a good training book....like "dogs for dummies" and follow it to the letter. Or better yet, hire a behaviorist who will train you to train the dog.

I don't know if hubby is happy the way the dog is or is resistant to training, but I would make it clear that the dog gets trained. Period.

Google NILIF. (Nothing in life is free) Follow it to the letter. Crate the dog between potty trips. Institute doggy boot camp in your home. Expect some major rebellion, then depression from your dog. After that, you'll have a lovely happy dog.
 

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Wow, thank you so much everyone! I can't believe I've been off the Internet less than 24 hours and I've already gotten so many replies. :)

I agree with the posters who are giving me advice on training her and those who also feel that the dog needs a new home. I simply want to find a solution to the problem, whether that be rehoming or training.

I hope you all will forgive me for not jumping into the debate. I don't think that just because someone is harsh means they are cruel. I appreciate all the advice given no matter what style it was given in.

I do want to clear one misunderstanding- RedyreRottweilers, you said that my husband could not have owned a two year old dog long before we were married. I should have used a term less vague than "long". The dog is two years and six months old. He owned her one year before he moved in with me. We lived together for 18 months before getting married two weeks ago.

So if you count that year before he moved in with me, or the two and a half years before we were married as a long time, yes he did own her long before we were married.

Well, thank you again for all the advice and resources. I will copy and paste this thread into a Word file I can keep, and review all of your help more thoroughly, along with all the other information I have collected in the past from books, magazines, websites and other forums, until we have found a solution to our problem.

Thanks! Good day everyone. :)
 

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elibrown, good luck to you and I'm glad you were able to rise above all the rudeness pointed your way by people on this forum. Please keep in mind that there ARE some of us willing to help and not jumping right into judgement on you based on a tiny bit of information.

To those who criticized and offered little (if any) constructive advice: why bother to post if you're just going to say nasty things? Don't you have something better to do with your lives? Geez, people. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion - but just because you have a opinion it doesn't mean you HAVE to post it. If you post something rude and unfriendly then it reflects on YOU.

Who here can say they never made a mistake with their pets?

Melanie and the gang in Alaska
 

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I personally feel that the only rude people were the ones who 'got on' others who offered advice that was not to their liking.
Even the person who began the thread thanked us all for our differing viewpoints that were givin honestly;
I have to give props to both sides who expressed an honest opnion, but disses to those who managed to offer nothing but a critique of the people who posted.
 

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Well obviously the problem is that he got the dog and never bothered training her (but I agree that working 50 hours a week probably never helped).

Elibrown, I don't think that you should do all the work frankly. Make a deal with your husband - give him 6 months to start training her, and if there is no improvement in that time, then you will rehome her. She *will* be happier that way, if she doesn't get trained. Support your husband, help him as needed, but IMO he should be the one doing most of the work.

For now I suggest doing a few searches on the forum on these:
housetraining
positive reinforcement
clicker training
NILIF

You should get a lot of good advice. I would start cutting off treats unless she does something for them. Before you do anything for her (opening a door, giving her food), make her sit. Teach her sit/down/stay/wait (you can do a search also for how to train those). Hide treats in your pockets all the time, and give her one when she pees/poos outside. She will learn that peeing/pooing outside = good. Just ignore her totally when she pees/poos inside. You'll have to let her out as often as possible though (I suggest every hour).

The main idea is that everything (treats included) need to be earned, and she can do that by being good and doing what you ask her to.

Good luck, I hope you will keep us posted!
 
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IliamnasQuest said:
elibrown, good luck to you and I'm glad you were able to rise above all the rudeness pointed your way by people on this forum. Please keep in mind that there ARE some of us willing to help and not jumping right into judgment on you based on a tiny bit of information.

To those who criticized and offered little (if any) constructive advice: why bother to post if you're just going to say nasty things? Don't you have something better to do with your lives? Geez, people. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion - but just because you have a opinion it doesn't mean you HAVE to post it. If you post something rude and unfriendly then it reflects on YOU.
Who here can say they never made a mistake with their pets?

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

You are taking time out of your life to post your opinion of other people's opinions. How does that reflect on you?
 

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You are taking time out of your life to post your opinion of other people's opinions. How does that reflect on you?
I added that onto a post I was already making - doesn't take much time to do that. Obviously it hit a nerve with you, perhaps you have some guilt feelings going on.

It takes just as much time to give people constructive and KIND comments and yet a number of people on this thread were quite rude to the original poster. Yes, she responded in a very mature and non-confrontational way but I somehow doubt that she'll be coming back to ask any more questions. Her post kindly thanked everyone .. she showed more class than many on here .. but I do believe that the rude posts have driven away yet another person who could have benefitted from help on this forum.

I find that very sad. If people don't want to give reasonable advice and attempt to help, then why post at all? I think some people just have a good time being nasty towards others. And like I said - that reflects on them.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska
 
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IliamnasQuest said:
I added that onto a post I was already making - doesn't take much time to do that. Obviously it hit a nerve with you, perhaps you have some guilt feelings going on.

It takes just as much time to give people constructive and KIND comments and yet a number of people on this thread were quite rude to the original poster. Yes, she responded in a very mature and non-confrontational way but I somehow doubt that she'll be coming back to ask any more questions. Her post kindly thanked everyone .. she showed more class than many on here .. but I do believe that the rude posts have driven away yet another person who could have benefitted from help on this forum.

I find that very sad. If people don't want to give reasonable advice and attempt to help, then why post at all? I think some people just have a good time being nasty towards others. And like I said - that reflects on them.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

Stop being so passive aggressive. If you have a problem with any of us, not just me, why don't you make a list on this thread of who was rude in your opinion and what we did to drive someone away so we can all learn from our mistakes and not feel the "guilt" I am riddled with.

Did you read the original post or the thread title? Did it come off to you as a cry for help? Or was it more looking for excuses to get rid of a dog? When she did come back to the thread and explained herself better. I was absolutely the first one to admit she was very mature in her response. (though I believe that reading the posts after her original probably changed her tune a little)

Finally though I have only been a member for a couple months myself. How long have you been around to know how many people have "been driven away" by rude posts.

I will hold my breath until your next response as I will not be able to sleep with the guilt I carry for running off anyone who seeks advice.
 

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IliamnasQuest said:
I think some people just have a good time being nasty towards others. And like I said - that reflects on them.
Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote that?



Seriously, if someone says they don't want to do something and someone else agrees; no harm, no foul.
 

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I will hold my breath until your next response as I will not be able to sleep with the guilt I carry for running off anyone who seeks advice.
Wow - I just checked your profile to see your age, and was actually shocked to see it say 30. I'm not just saying that as a dig - I genuinely thought you were a kid.
 

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looks like once again some people just can't bear to hear any other opinion that doesn't match their own. but...some people just have to rant as 'the good one'. per the original post, I don't think many people overreacted at all. yes, the poster softened it up a bit, but this wasn't the usual person looking for help at all. MAYBE she WILL work with the dog, but since her hubby is the dog lover and he is gone alot....that's alot to ask of someone not loving dogs, or the idea of being responsible for their training. I feel bad for her, because she is left with a situation she didn't choose. more sorry for the dog since the person that loves it isn't home enough to provide proper guidence. so, it's not about bashing the poster......it's about understanding her frustration. we forget that not everyone adores dogs. IF she comes back, then more can be said to help her. I sincerely doubt she is that dedicated, but she would be welcomed with open arms.
 
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Wow - I just checked your profile to see your age, and was actually shocked to see it say 30. I'm not just saying that as a dig - I genuinely thought you were a kid.

Um, OK. Was my post worded like a 13 year would word something? Do I say dude or yo a lot in threads? The sentence I believe you are questioning was a direct response to a poster who assumed to know my feelings on a situation.
 
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