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I don't think mine is a good enough home for her.

Hello everyone! This is my first post. I found this forum on Google because I have a dog problem that I am desparate to fix. I'm seeking advice and information from all sources.

In a nutshell, my husband and I own a very badly behaved 2 year old miniature dachsund. I do not like owning an animal and would like more than anything in the world to give this dog to a better home. But my husband loves her and would be heartbroken if we found new owners for her (she was his long before we married).

I wanted to keep this short and sweet, so let me know if you need any more details about the situation.

I don't know if this is a relationship problem or a dog problem (or both), but maybe someone here can help.

Thanks!
 
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Without any information it is really hard to say anything. How badly does she behave? In what ways? What kind of training does she have?

I really hope that you can find a way to train her and that you will find yourself falling in love with her once she learns to behave.
 

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You know - and I mean this in a NICE way :D - there's rarely badly behaved dogs, only inexperienced owners who don't understand the reasons behind their dog's behaviour! I'm sure her problems will be relatively straightforward to fix - could you give us some more info?

Starting your thread with the words `get rid of' in it might make some members here angry, but I really appreciate that you've come for advice, and hope we can all help you out :)
 

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Sorry :eek: ...in some forums people don't like very long wordy posts, and I didn't know how people felt about them here. But I will certainly give you more facts.

She poops and pees on the floor and the furniture, barks incessantly, eats the trash, eats my underwear, bites people. The "accidents" are all the time, no matter how often I take her outside. She needs to be played with CONSTANTLY when we are home, and if I am too busy to throw her toy or tug of war, she will poop or pee on our bed. Actually I am sitting awake at 3 am right now because my husband is at the laundrymat- she has soiled every single piece of bedding we own. No amount of spanking, punishing, stroking, calming, or anything can make her stop barking. And she barks at every single sight, sound, and smell that ever comes her way.

I am sort of trying to crate train her right now. Besides that, she can sit. She knows a lot of things like "Wanna go outside?", "Wanna treat?", and "Where's your leopard bone?" (what we call her toys, long story). She knows that relieving herself inside is bad because she always goes in her cage after she does it, but knowing that anything is bad just doesn't stop her from doing it.

The crate training isn't going very well because we do not have a set schedule.

I would love to learn to love this dog, but she has already lived here for a year and a half and it hasn't happened yet. I'm not sure if it's her lack of training that is the problem or if I'm just not a dog person.
 

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Oops, Rubylove...I was replying at the same time as you!

Sorry about saying "get rid of". In retrospective, it is an insensitive term to use on a dog forum, so I went back and changed it. I really do want the little dog to be happy in a good home. And I sure don't want to offend anyone here. I just thought a dog forum might be a good source of advice. Thank you for your help.

What you said about inexperienced owners who don't understand why their dogs are acting up...I think this is exactly correct! I didn't grow up with dogs and have never had a desire to own one. It's not that I hate dogs, I just don't know what to do with them. I don't know how to love them.

But I'm not a heartless, cold demon. :) I want to do the most humane thing possible in this situation, and based on past experiences with the dog, I think it would be to give her a better home somewhere else.

I think that her bad behavior might be a result of our neglect. My husband loves her but he works 50+ hours a week and is almost always busy when he's off. I am out of town often and chaotic and scatterbrained when I'm in town. I have tried various things with her but the problem is that I always forget about it, lose interest, think that she's "better" and quit, etc.
 

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I am thinking this must be lack of training. It seems that she has not been consistently trained from the beginning? She has been un-potty trained all this time? I cant exactly tell you what to do there. My dog was actually fairly easy to potty train and I didnt even have to do much. But I am sure someone here has experience with housebreaking an older dog.

Have you used any training methods? I suggest using positive reinforcement. Such as rewarding with food treats for good behavior. Maybe giving her a treat when she potties outside?

Have you tried taking her to a dog training class? I think that might be very helpful. It would also train her to be around other people. Is it play biting?

Have you tried maybe using a baby gate to shut her into only one room of the house when not closely supervised to avoid the pottying on the bed?

I think that there is a lack of training, once the dog is trained and housebroken I think it will be much more pleasant for you to live with the dog.

You said your husband had her before you got married. Did he work on training her? Does he now? Or is he leaving this up to you?
 

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I am thinking this must be lack of training. It seems that she has not been consistently trained from the beginning? She has been un-potty trained all this time? I cant exactly tell you what to do there. My dog was actually fairly easy to potty train and I didnt even have to do much. But I am sure someone here has experience with housebreaking an older dog. She understands that outside is the restroom and inside is not, but it's like she doesn't really care. She doesn't "tell" us when she needs to go out, and no matter how often we take her out she will still go inside.

Have you used any training methods? I suggest using positive reinforcement. Such as rewarding with food treats for good behavior. Maybe giving her a treat when she potties outside? I am trying to crate train her but it isn't working so well because we don't have a set schedule. When we try to give her treats for going outside, she knows that the treat is in our hand and won't do her business.

Have you tried taking her to a dog training class? I think that might be very helpful. It would also train her to be around other people. Is it play biting? This will probably be our next resort. We are NOT well off, but we might have enough money from our wedding gifts to have her trained. She play bites too but that's not the problem. She attacks children, babies, and very short people. Literally, attacks them.

Have you tried maybe using a baby gate to shut her into only one room of the house when not closely supervised to avoid the pottying on the bed? We live in a one room studio. Sometimes I try to lock her in her cage because it's the only option for constraint, but she will just whine incessantly until I let her out.

I think that there is a lack of training, once the dog is trained and housebroken I think it will be much more pleasant for you to live with the dog. I agree.

You said your husband had her before you got married. Did he work on training her? Does he now? Or is he leaving this up to you? He did somewhat, but he has always worked too much to do anything very in depth. It's sort of all up to me but not because my husband doesn't care about me, rather because the dog doesn't BOTHER him. He is at work most of the time and doesn't have to deal with her behavior. And when she does do something really horrible, we talk about it and decide to do something, but it never gets done.
 

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elibrown said:
Oops, Rubylove...I was replying at the same time as you!

Sorry about saying "get rid of". In retrospective, it is an insensitive term to use on a dog forum, so I went back and changed it. I really do want the little dog to be happy in a good home. And I sure don't want to offend anyone here. I just thought a dog forum might be a good source of advice. Thank you for your help.

What you said about inexperienced owners who don't understand why their dogs are acting up...I think this is exactly correct! I didn't grow up with dogs and have never had a desire to own one. It's not that I hate dogs, I just don't know what to do with them. I don't know how to love them.

But I'm not a heartless, cold demon. :) I want to do the most humane thing possible in this situation, and based on past experiences with the dog, I think it would be to give her a better home somewhere else.

I think that her bad behavior might be a result of our neglect. My husband loves her but he works 50+ hours a week and is almost always busy when he's off. I am out of town often and chaotic and scatterbrained when I'm in town. I have tried various things with her but the problem is that I always forget about it, lose interest, think that she's "better" and quit, etc.
Well, I think you've just hit the nail on the head :)

With dogs, particularly dogs with behavioural problems, consistency and persistence is the key. It's not really fair of you to have to deal with this kind of problem on your own, however I understand how hard it is when you work really long hours.

I will say, though, that if you do try to rehome your dog, its new owner is going to inherit it's problems, and will more than likely abandon the dog or neglect it, and it will end up even worse. Of course you are not a cold, heartless demon - I don't think you would want that.

What I do think you need is someone to help you with your dog. Advice, and support. All you need is to be shown the correct way to do things, and then you can take it from there. I would talk to your local vet, take your dog in for a checkup (if she knows the difference between outside and inside, but still goes inside, it may well be that something is medically wrong with her - and by the way, is she spayed??)

But I cannot recommend highly enough getting a professional trainer in - one that uses positive reinforcement. It can be pricey, but not nearly as expensive as continued problems with your dog will be. And a trainer will be able to give you tips that you can go on with, so you don't have to keep on paying.

And you may well not be a `dog' person - yet...I say that because you are not experienced, and you have a poorly trained dog who drives you up the wall. You do not yet know the joys of a well mannered dog who loves you and whom you love. It is a true delight. :D

Please, don't beat yourself up over your feelings. It's not that you don't know how to love dogs, you just haven't had one steal your heart yet! :p Dogs can be very trying and difficult, and really test our patience. You have done the right thing, you are seeking help, so you obviously do care for the little critter otherwise you'd have just let her go already.
 

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Also - I'm not sure how possible this is, but there has been a TV series here in the UK on dog training. A different dog every week. In the last series one of the dogs was a dachsund, which displayed behaviour VERY similar to yours! I'm not sure how likely it is that you could find it but it's called It's Me or The Dog, and the trainer is called Victoria Stillwell.

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itsmeorthedog/s2ep3.html
 

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Hi elibrown -

Sounds like you have quite the spoiled little brat on your hands! I'm glad that you've acknowledged that it's a lack of understanding and training that has contributed to this - admitting that the people are generally the problem is the first step.

If you can manage to get some help in your area, that will be the best. Someone with experience in positive reinforcement training (someone who won't immediately suggest corrections, but instead work on behavior modification) would be able to assess your dog and give you ways to deal with her.

But in the meantime, I do have some recommendations. First of all, you need to sit down with your husband and have a serious talk about his dog. A dog like that can really mess up a household. It's not just the constant cleaning and care, it's the stress of dealing with the fear of someone getting bit, or not getting enough sleep, etc. This can cause a lot of strain on a relationship. You and he need to be in complete agreement on the course of action, because this dog needs to have 100% consistency in her training in order to change the behaviors.

Once you are in agreement, then you need to set up rules for the little furkid. It sounds to me like she's kind of running the household. If you go to my website (http://www.kippsdogs.com/tips.html - I will have more tips up soon) you can take a look at the pack hierarchy section. I would immediately implement all of the rules for your dog. She WON'T like it, but this will be the first step towards teaching her (in a pretty kind way) exactly where she belongs in the family "pack". I'd also recommend that she has to earn every piece of dog food, every playtime with toys, every pet, every bit of attention. She has to learn that those things are privileges, not rights, and so from now on she has to do a sit before she gets a small handful of food (or a down, or a trick, or something - make her EARN it). Same goes with toys, petting, attention. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE.

She should not be allowed loose in the house at all unless someone is actively watching her. You need to consider her as not being housebroken and go back to step one as if she was a puppy. This means if you are going to take a shower or cook dinner or watch TV, she needs to either be in her kennel, confined in a small area in a room (like behind an exercise pen) or tethered to your belt loop with a leash so she can't go off somewhere and potty or pee. NO EXCEPTIONS! Any time that she pees or poops in the house, it's the fault of a human who wasn't watching her. I'm not convinced that she knows that she shouldn't go inside. I'm guessing that she knows she shouldn't go inside when you're watching.

Make good use of that crate and ignore the whining. You may want to reward her crate time with special goodies - get a small kong toy and some squeeze cheese, and stuff the toy with tiny pieces of biscuit held in with some squeeze cheese. Give these to her ONLY when she goes into her crate. You can also use raw knuckle bones or other special treats that will take awhile to eat. Put her in the crate with a "puppy pacifier" (my term for these special treats), close the crate and go about your business. Turn up the music if you find she is whining, but under no circumstances do you give her any attention when she whines or barks! That will only encourage her to do it more.

Plan on teaching her a bunch of behaviors - you say she knows sit. Also teach her come (use treats - there's info on how to teach that on my site also) along with down, maybe roll over, sit up and beg (if she can), shake paws, bark on command, spin circles, etc. Lure her with treats when you start and go from there. As she learns more, you will not only have more things she can do to "earn" attention, but you will start building a bond and giving her something to do other than misbehave.

Your story is not really all that uncommon. In all honesty, most of our dogs would just do whatever they wanted to do if we didn't direct them in the right direction. Your little juvenile delinquent just hasn't had the right direction yet! It's not impossible to change, but everything has to be very consistent and you have to be tough for awhile and not give in to her even if she looks at you with big sad eyes.

Good luck to you, and please look into finding someone to help you locally. It's much easier to understand the concepts of training if you have someone who can assess your dog and demonstrate what needs to be done.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska
 

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most of those problems seem like training problems. with doing her toilet business. is there a dog door? if there isnt you may want to consider installing one. Its great for us, means we dont have to leave a window open for Panda and Daisy used to use it to take herself out.

Crate trainign may not be the best option for this dog at this time as she doesnt seem secure enough to take part in such a thing.
 
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1) a 2 year old dog could not have belonged to someone "long before you were married".

2) blaming the dog will not help the problem

3) there are THOUSANDS of helpful articles hanging on the internet dealing with the training issues you are describing. If one REALLY wants to figure out how to deal with these things, it's a simple search away.

4) I think the dog would be MUCH better off in a different home.
 

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Red- Why did you even bother? I'm new here and it seems like there are two types of posters. Ones who truly are constructive and some who just like to be hard on people. All of the previous posts have been thoughtful and, I hope, helpful to her. Why change the tone?

Elibrown- I really hope you are able to find some of these posts of use. I wasn't always a dog person, but I'm surrounded by dog people so I can attest that they grow on you. Anya has had some behavioral issues (not nearly as bad as you describe) that made me want to give up. But I really worked un unlearning those behaviors with her and while she won't ever be saintly :) I wouldn't know what to do without her now. I know it can be hard and I wish I had some advice to offer as well. I just wanted to let you know that there are lots of us that don't know what to do naturally and it's really great that you are trying. Good luck!
 

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RedyreRottweilers said:
1) a 2 year old dog could not have belonged to someone "long before you were married".

2) blaming the dog will not help the problem

3) there are THOUSANDS of helpful articles hanging on the internet dealing with the training issues you are describing. If one REALLY wants to figure out how to deal with these things, it's a simple search away.

4) I think the dog would be MUCH better off in a different home.
Surely coming to a forum and talking to real people and sharing her frustration is as good as searching. Why are you here exactly if it isn't to share ideas, ask questions etc?
 

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As i have said in Red's defense before - sometimes one must be harsh and honest in order to get a point across. Because niceness while... nice... isn't always honest.

I like Red's style... but then perhaps I'm odd.
 

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Red is a little harsh. Some people do need it, but when people come here for help they want help, not to be put down and made to feal like they are worthless.
 
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I just want to say, I agree with everyone here that training is needed.
Crate training needs to be done at this point in order to stop this dog from going in the house.
Be sure to get this dog plenty of exercise OUTSIDE, so they may be less destructive inside.

Please try as hard as possible to work with this dog, the love you get from a dog is unrivaled.

Good Luck to you and your puppy.

Elissa
 

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i always remember that this is a dog lovers forum, not a dog owner lovers forum, so i think basically what people are saying is what they believe is in the dogs best interest, even if it isnt neccersarily what the owners want to hear.
 
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Elibrown, I first wanted to say, Good for you for coming here to get advise before just dumping your dog! Perhaps others on this forum despise you because you are not a perfect dog owner... but you know.. Have you ever seen that commercial? You don't have to be perfect to be a perfect parent? Keep trying!

Others have given you GREAT advice! I hope you take it and truly work hard to keep your dog. But, I also hope that you and your husband can do what is best for your dog if you finally decide that you aren't the home this dog needs.

Goodluck! And I really do hope you are able to solve these problems.. It will take hard work, but it certainly isn't impossible!
 
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