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I told the mother that he has bit Emily, but he is fine with my other two stepsons. They are older (as are her children) and he has never made an attempt to bite them. For some reason everytime he is around her he tries to bite her. We have taken him to trainers and they pass it off as his breed. I have told the woman she will have to get in contact with the shelter if they decide to keep him because there is a $150 fee that they will have to take care of. I go check on him daily over there and he is doing fine (well yesterday I didn't because I had to sit in traffic up the butt to go to the doctor's office). My husband is still deciding if he wants to keep him or not, he really doesn't know what to do. We have thought about giving him back to the shelter before and they couldn't take him because they were full (we needed to wait until they had an opening). They said we had LOTS of time to think about keeping him until they would have an opening. Although that was before they figured out we weren't the original adopters though. So whoever decides to keep him will be paying the adoption fee for him and in the contract it states the dog must be returned to that shelter if whoever adopts him can no longer keep him. That is all that I know for now though, husband says take him back one minute and leave him there the next (you know how men can be). I will keep you posted on his decision. Don't worry, love4dogs, I'm not mad at you. Yuk makes a good point but on the other hand it probably needed to be said and I couldn't say it.
WOW, a plot twist!!! Maverick biting your daughter is all the reason I would need to not take him back. Once, ok, maybe, but repeatedly??? Not even a question! As guilty as I would feel about taking him from the family, knowing now that he has bitten her, I would feel more guilty about leaving him there! If she is willing to pay the adoption fee, than she should be willing to go to the shelter and buy a dog that is not a risk of biting! Even if Mav is good to your step-children, he still has bitten in the past! Her kids are older, she may have grandkids someday, he may bite them, or a kid in the neighborhood, and then he would be put down! I agree with all the others, take him back, find him a home with NO children, someone who is patient, and good with dogs. Which, I know you would research well! Suggest to her that she takes the money she was gonna use on him, and rescue a "family" dog from a shelter. One that is good with kids, of all ages!
well a long time ago when he first bit we wanted to take him back and they were full so they couldn't take him. Since he came from a shelter he can not go back to a different shelter either he has to go back to where he came from. They keep saying that they are full and they have no room for him. Although now that they finally realize we aren't the people who originally adopted him and that he is "at risk" so to speak here now they are harassing us to either pay the adoption fee for him or bring him back. I never really thought to be worried that he would bite other kids since he seems stable with the stepsons and her children. It's only my 16 month old that he has ever bit, I think maybe I should tell the lady he has to go back. I know brothers of his had been adopted out and returned to the shelter for "unknown" reasons the shelter had said. Unfortunetely the shelter will not allow me to rehome him myself I would have to return him to them and they would rehome him. Ofcourse our friends the original Maverick adopters don't really seem to care what happens to him, they weren't even concerned he had gotten loose. I don't know what to do now, lilmtude2u has brought up a really good point that I don't think anyone else has really addressed yet. And now more thinking to be done in this situation.
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If the shelter says pay fee or return him, then I would say return him and let the shelter rehome him. You can tell this lady that he is going to that shelter and if she truely is in love with him and truely wants him, then she will go and adopt him. Everybody is happy and you can have your poodle. JMO though not my business, will be awaiting your decision and good luck.
Yeah, I was thinking the same think 
. I think my husband wants him back at the shelter now. I think that is what he is going to do. He figures with Maverick being so young it would probably be easier to help him with whatever he may need. We do not know how to help him, and obviously the trainers here are not much help either . We are going to give it one more day, sleep on it one more night though. We just figured that it'd be easier for the shelter to help him now that he's younger instead of waiting for him to get older and then seriously bite Emily and take him back when there may be no way to help him, atleast now he isn't too far gone for help.
. I think my husband wants him back at the shelter now. I think that is what he is going to do. He figures with Maverick being so young it would probably be easier to help him with whatever he may need. We do not know how to help him, and obviously the trainers here are not much help either . We are going to give it one more day, sleep on it one more night though. We just figured that it'd be easier for the shelter to help him now that he's younger instead of waiting for him to get older and then seriously bite Emily and take him back when there may be no way to help him, atleast now he isn't too far gone for help.
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juliefurry said:
Yeah, I was thinking the same think . I think my husband wants him back at the shelter now. I think that is what he is going to do. He figures with Maverick being so young it would probably be easier to help him with whatever he may need. We do not know how to help him, and obviously the trainers here are not much help either . We are going to give it one more day, sleep on it one more night though. We just figured that it'd be easier for the shelter to help him now that he's younger instead of waiting for him to get older and then seriously bite Emily and take him back when there may be no way to help him, atleast now he isn't too far gone for help.
. I think my husband wants him back at the shelter now. I think that is what he is going to do. He figures with Maverick being so young it would probably be easier to help him with whatever he may need. We do not know how to help him, and obviously the trainers here are not much help either . We are going to give it one more day, sleep on it one more night though. We just figured that it'd be easier for the shelter to help him now that he's younger instead of waiting for him to get older and then seriously bite Emily and take him back when there may be no way to help him, atleast now he isn't too far gone for help.
He is a dog who does not get along with small kids. Yukon is like that, he is not very good with my kids, they are young so we have to keep them seperated yet when kids abit older come here he is perfect. We are just keeping him under wraps until my kids are a wee bit older. Some dogs just cannot take the screaming, running around kids. Too exciting for them. I think you are really smart to take the time to think about it and to make the right choice for you and for Maverick. I'm here for you. {{HUGS}}
The only thing is is every shelter I know puts down biters. Doesn't matter who they bit. Are you sure this will nto happen. I'd say rehome him but not somwhere there are kids. He may be ok with the two older kids in the family but what abuot when they have frineds over? Just for your protection make her sign somehting that says you warned her about the biting.
The shelter said they will not put him down and will instead work with him and try to resolve the issue (the was my major concern about bringing him back). I think he is ok with older kids he has never been aggressive with any older kid. If the lady wants him she would have to get the adoption approval through the shelter because techically they could come and take him from her right now because the original adopters signed a contract saying that they would return him to that shelter if they could not care for him. So it's basically up to the shelter now, I guess. I just don't know if maybe staying with this woman would be best or going back to the shelter and being worked with would be best for him at this point. I think my husband has come to the conclusion to rehome him though (I would imagine because he stormed out and is now driving around town presumably like a maniac).
I offer him support and listen and ad my suggestions there really is nothing else I can do. He brought Maverick into this house after I said no, and promised to take care of him and do everything for him. He also brought Hannah into this house too without asking and promised to take care of her but she is so attached to me that she I consider her my dog and she considers herself my dog. She lays with me, she'll only listen to me, and she just all around loves me more. Don't mean to sound conceited but she'd rather sit in a room and be yelled and screamed at by me then loved and hugged by my husband (ofcourse we've never tested this though). Maverick has always been bonded more with my husband so he is his dog and it is his decision. He offered me support (somewhat) when I had to make the Mack and Shelby decisions (because they were my dogs). He listened to me but mostly just said "I don't know there you're dogs do what you think is best. As much as I would like to give him a taste of his own medicine I can tell he is really hurting over what to do and I am trying my best to help him decide what would be best for not only Maverick but our family as well. Regardless if Maverick comes back or not we will get a poodle (we already have the breeder picked and the down payment has been recieved).
Wow! I just got home from Greece and this is the first thread I've read -- froom beginning to end. And the plot kept twisting and thickening! Julie, if you were willing to give the dog up anyway and put him back in the shelter anyway, I would let that lady keep him. I wouldn't trust the shelter to not put him down as he's been dubbed as a "biter" already. If he's already proven himself to be stable in the new home with older kids, I would make a pact with the shelter that Mav gets rehomed to that lady and she pays the fees, etc. What do you think?
yes, the thread was much like a soap opera. The woman who has him has agreed to go to the shelter and fill out the paperwork and pay the adoption fee. We just don't want to risk him doing anything worse to Emily. She is scared enough of him and now has shown a slight fear toward Hannah after all the work that I have done to help. We have thought long and hard and it's best for him to stay with them, as I have said he is not a dog we would have went out and picked ourselves he was dumped on us. We love him but just don't think he fits in with us.
We should be getting her at the end of this month. We are going to go pick her up from the breeder ourselves and it is a really long trip so it'll take us a weekend to get her. We should have her by October 1st though, and we will take pictures. I was hoping the woman would still allow us a puppy and she said yes.
Unfortunantly, there are legal issues that come up with this as well. Maverick is not legally yours. I think it would be in your best interest to take him back from the woman, and take him immediatly to the shelter. If you wait to long on this, they may seek some sort of legal action against you. This could hinder your getting a poodle, or any other type of dog. I do know that if you loose a lawsuit like this, they can prohibit you from owning any animals for a set amount of time. I know this is a far case scenario, but one that you need to consider! Explain to the woman why you are taking him back, and that he is going to be returned to the shelter. Let her deal with them after that! If she really wants him that bad, she will go get him. You warned her, it is not fair for you to have to worry about how he is going to behave for them! It sounds like him being at the shelter is the best option for him, especially if they are willing to try to work with him. This will keep you from feeling guilty or constantly worrying if he is going to bite one of her kids, or one that happens by her house. The most important thing is to listen to the shelter and return him immediatly! Then, get your poodle pup!
This sounds pretty overly dramatic when I think Julie's got it covered. Good Lord, a lawsuit? Sounds like the shelter should be able to work with her and get the dog into the right environment -- a.k.a. that woman's family! I believe all things happen for a reason. And Mav took off and found his forever home. I think Julie can work it out...