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Criosphynx

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I think my questions were pretty obvious... they are the sentences that end in a question mark.

My points are also pretty obvious as they are the rest of my post.


What were those? How long have I used other feeds? That ranged from a few weeks to several months to 2 yrs. Canidae, Wellness (pup), I used those each about 5-7 months. CORE I used for about two weeks before it did a number on the health of my dogs. I have tried Merrick, used that for about 4 months. One bitch lost her coat on it so I had her on a different diet (Purina ONE). We had a bitch whelp 4 premature, unthrifty pups early last year. She was eating Merrick & while doing ok on it herself, the pups were a mess. Sticky stools/diarrhea, scabs/hot spots on their coats (and thee pups were maybe 2 weeks old), she was loosing more milk every day. I tried her on Purina ONE and the problems immediately subsided. More milk, the pups coats healed up, they were gaining weight and had no more loose stools ... I coudl go on and on and on. I had major problems with Canidae, Back To Basics, Timberwolf ...

As for the ingredients, I don't care. They're dogs, not children in fur suits. If you don't want your dogs eating processed foods, take them off ALL kibble, becuase no matter how you dress it, well ... how does that expression do? Still a pig? Innova is just as processed as Purina, just different ingredients. I am not convinced all those herbals and veggies are even necessary. I don't even believe that the ingredients in the Purina products I'm using are all that bad. Corn is an EXCELLENT source of lutein & B vitamins, and in ground form is highly digestable. It is NOT an allergen. If your dog is having allergic reactions to feeds, it's due to genetics, not diet. Sorry. This is a great article by Linda Arndt regarding corn in dog food:
Corn In Pet Foods | GREATDANELADY.COM

So veggies aren't nessesary but you then talk about how great corn is.


so your comfortable feeding your dogs euthanized dogs.



Thanks you answered my question.
 

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So veggies aren't nessesary but you then talk about how great corn is.

so your comfortable feeding your dogs euthanized dogs.

Thanks you answered my question.
Ostrich symdrome. If you don't see it, it isn't there. :rolleyes:
 

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I can see where people are coming from....if your dog does do well on a food, and you've done your very best to try everything else better, I don't have an issue with people feeding the low quality.

Allie eats EVO RM because of her chicken allergy. Ruby eats TOTW because she has to have grain-free. Noodle usually eats CalNat, but currently she's eating Science Diet puppy because it was free.

As much as it disgusts me, when the puppy comes home, he'll be eating Pro Plan. It's a fact that Dobermans do amazingly well on Pro Plan, and until I'm done showing him, that's what he'll eat. Even if it makes my skin crawl to buy it.;)
 
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I've researched dog food for so many years now, I know the difference between them all. It was almost an obsession there for a while, when I was into heavily researching the foods. And I researched everything down to the comparison of the mineral contents.

I worked in a specialty store for years as well, where they only sold the higher brands like Cal. Nat., Innova, EVO, Wellness, ect. Along with all the pre-made raw diets.

Been there, done that, and went back to Purina. My dogs were on different foods ranging from a few weeks, to a couple years, and I still have not been happier than I am with Purina. Emmy's seizures are the most controlled, Katie's leaky anal glands that we were about to have to have anal gland removal surgery on, suddenly quit completely and never started again on Purina. The shedding, the bad gas, the diarrhea that some of them had on 'better' foods, dissapeared on Purina.

What this proves to me is that while better foods may have better ingredients, they don't work for me. And the cheap food must not be that bad, because my dogs look, act, and feel great on Purina. They're coats are soft and shiny, their weights are great, they have great muscle tone, and their energy level is amazing.

And their poop-o-meter? They poop the same amount now that they did on 'better' foods. The only comparison is that their poop was never HARD on the better foods. It was always semi-mushy. At least on Purina, they are pooping the same amount, but have firm stool. And I'd know, I pooper-scoop my yard reguarly.

I quit tinkering with their diets, because it was harming them. I can't begin to name the total amount of problems I had over the years on some of the better diets, even after trying some for several months. Purina was the first, and only, dog food that every single one of my dogs have done amazing on. And this is coming from someone who has been there and done that with every 'good' food out there.

And as far as whoever said that they've never met a dog that looked better on cheap food than on better good, hadn't met my guys then.

Audubon had thin, flaky hair when I had her on Solid Gold. And she was on it over a year, until I couldn't take it anymore. She still sheds, but nothing like on Solid Gold. Her hair was actually *thinning* on that food.

Bo was on Diamond Naturals, and ended up in the emergency vet for 2 days with Colitis.

Sam was on Innova, and you couldn't be in the same room as him, the gas was unbelieveable.

Gracie and Emmy both were on a raw diet. Gracie's liver enzymes shot thru the roof, and it took weeks after removing her from the raw diet before she quit dumping tons of protein and billrubin in her urine. Emmy's seizures shot up from one seizure every 3-4 weeks, to one seizure every single day. And not only that, but the seizures became more severe and with a long duration of seizure activity. And she was on this diet a while, before I fully realized the correlation between the seizures and diet. Put her on Dog Chow, the excess seizures stopped almost immediately.

So Dog Chow, and other cheaper foods, don't have the best ingredients in the world. But it works for us, with great results. My dogs are living, breathing, proof that 'better' is not always really BETTER.
 

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So how many types did you try? I could never keep weight on Zo on wellness for example. I do think dogs can do better on some foods than others.

if you switched often then you might have had some issues because of that (some dogs can take it some can't)

BUT if you really think your dogs are healthier eating mostly grains and chemicals and diseased meat.. thats fine. But as I said I know people who eat fast food all the time and look great. But I still expect them to have health issues down the road!

Do you not care that you are feeding your dogs euthanized pets? Or that they are eating a tonne of toxic chemicals and medications? Even if they look good now (and yes I do find crap food better at making dogs 'squidgy or fat'. Same as fast food does) Are you ok with the long term effects?
 

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I tend to agree !! I went " higher grade " when down to one but really have seen no difference .
 

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some dont see the change in the animals appearance... I have seen my dogs coats become very shiny and my cats allergies disappeared.

However, the difference is also in their health. No more bouts of stomach issues, mild illnesses.

What I pay more for in food, I save in vet bills.
 

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Personally Iam not comfortable putting a concoction like that into my dogs. Whatever the results.


some dont see the change in the animals appearance... I have seen my dogs coats become very shiny and my cats allergies disappeared.

However, the difference is also in their health. No more bouts of stomach issues, mild illnesses.

What I pay more for in food, I save in vet bills.
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How many types have I tried? Several, almost all of them including Merrick, Solid Gold, Innova, EVO, Natrures Variety, RAW... all over the course of years.

Do I know what my dogs are eating, and what's in their dog food? Yes, I do. Do I care? Yes, I do.

But I would rather my dogs look, feel, and act great on a cheaper food, than to suffer from itchy skin, red rashes, diarrhea, colitis, leaky eyes, yeast infections, liver problems, and increased seizrues, all for the sake of saying they are eating a 'better' food.

However, the difference is also in their health. No more bouts of stomach issues, mild illnesses.
I fully agree. And in my case, the 'better' foods were the ones causing the illnesses and stomach issues.

I mean, seriously. Why on earth would I keep my dogs on a food that caused their liver to go out of whack? Or their seizures to increase? Or their hair to fall out, or their skin to itch, or yeast infections in their ears, or bouts of colitis?

I know for a fact dogs can live long lives on cheaper foods. One of my aunts had a poodle mix that lived till 22, and it was otherwise healthy with no serious problems. The only reason it died it because it was hit by a car.

My friend just lost her poodle/shih tzu mix awhile back... at the age of 24. Fed Dog Chow its whole life, and throughout its life, never had a major medical problem.

And my cat is almost 15, and fed Purina Cat Chow his whole life. That cat has never, not ever ever ever even once, been to a vet for anything other than a rabies vaccination. Not once. And he's healthy as they come, and still active enough to chase butterflies and bugs in the fields behind us for hours.

I know what's in my dogs food. And they are happy and healthy, and I won't change that.
 

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I know you probably dont want to hear it and are happy with Purina but finding the right quality food would probably solve a lot of your issues.

Acid Reflux, Severe Shedding, Skin problems so bad a dog is living on steroids.

We had to go through a lot of foods to find the right one and one may not work for all of them.
 

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I'm amazed that such a huge group of dogs all had such horrible and wildly varying issues on the better foods...that's just...weird. Especially a kennel...how many dogs do you have that you feed 313lbs of food A DAY????

The rescue dogs I can sort of understand...I'm glad they're healthy though I don't understand one bit.

Personally, I've seen massive improvement in switching foods. I fed Sawyer Iams for the first while I had him and had to deal with eye infections, itchy skin and massive shedding. I thought it was spring allergies, requiring eye drops that he hated, then I switched over to Royal Canin. All issues disappeared immediately, then I went to Innova and he looked even better than ever. His coat is glossy, the shedding is drastically reduced (and when you have an Aussie, less shedding is prime) and his muscle tone is great. Even stepping down to Diamond Naturals (Kirkland) made for a change and not in a good way. He got flabbier, his coat wasn't as shiny and it tangled more in addition to shedding more. It's a decent enough food but he does so much better on Innova. Can't wait to see what he looks like on raw!

So, while there might be some dogs out there that have so completely adjusted to a life fed on crap that they can't tolerate higher quality, the vast majority of dogs WILL benefit from a better diet and be happier and healthier for it.
 

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I'm amazed that such a huge group of dogs all had such horrible and wildly varying issues on the better foods...that's just...weird. Especially a kennel...how many dogs do you have that you feed 313lbs of food A DAY????

The rescue dogs I can sort of understand...I'm glad they're healthy though I don't understand one bit.
this is where Iam at too :)

It doesn't really make sense to me.
 
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Acid Reflux, Severe Shedding, Skin problems so bad a dog is living on steroids.
Jake is the one with acid reflux, and he is on a prescription diet for his heart. So obviously, I'm not changing that.

Rosie is the one with the allergies on steroids. And it's not food related. First, she's been alelrgy tested. Secondly, she's been on prescription Z/D with no change. There are allergies out there that aren't food related, and hers is one of them.

Now, with that said, not EVERY dog did badly on better or different foods. Triumph did fine on a better food, we had Jake on RAW and I'll be honest, I DID see an improvement with Jake on a raw diet as far as his skin/coat, ect. But Jake is in very poor health with his heart. As I've said before, he has a severe heart murmur, congestive heart failure, a severely enlarged heart that's constricting his bronchail tube, and mitral valve prolapse (He had all this when he came to me a year ago). And because of that, his sodium intake is very limited because he gets fluid buildup easily at the slightest bit of over sodium. And because of this, we could not accurately determine his precise percentage of sodium intake, compared to his prescription H/D diet. So I put him back on H/D, because it was a gamble I just wouldn't take.

So I'll continue to stick with what works for us, even if no one agree's.

Especially a kennel...how many dogs do you have that you feed 313lbs of food A DAY????
Huh? Are you referring to me? :eek:
 

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Huh? Are you referring to me? :eek:

Shes talking about Houndmusic. :)

I have 13 dogs at the moment, for a combined weight of approximately 313lbs of dog to be fed on a daily basis. The mutt (65lbs) goes once daily, small firm turds and not a big cow pile that is more massive than the actual amount of food he eats. His stool is not much larger than the Beagles, just has an extra piece or two, lol. The Beagles average 2x daily, again firm stools not mushy or copious. They averaged 3-4x daily on Wellness CORE, the pups went up to 6x daily on Wellness just for puppy. And it was FOUL.
We go through a 34lb bag of Dog Chow 21/12 in about 12-14 days. So not bad at all. It lasts just as long as the higher priced feeds.
 
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Oh, okay, LOL. I was like, "Wait... since when is my crew referred to as a 'kennel'?" :eek: And then I went, "OMG, if I went thru 313lb's of food a day, I'd go bankrupt!"
 

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By the way... I think she means her dogs weigh 313 pounds total... not that she feeds that much food.
 
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Okay, Crios quoted it, and PM is correct. Her dogs weight a total of 313lb's. I kinda figured it was a miscommunication... it'd take someone awfully rich to afford 313lb's pounds of dog food a DAY! :eek:
 

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We feed Purina Pro Plan after trying premium foods like Blue Wilderness from Blue Buffalo. Our dog just had problems with that food. With Purina Pro Plan, he is dong much better. I guess it really depends on the dog and what works for them and not on whether the food is premium or not. Also, in our area, we do not have much variety in dog foods, so we buy what we have at our local PetSmart.
 

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We feed Purina Pro Plan after trying premium foods like Blue Wilderness from Blue Buffalo. Our dog just had problems with that food. With Purina Pro Plan, he is dong much better. I guess it really depends on the dog and what works for them and not on whether the food is premium or not. Also, in our area, we do not have much variety in dog foods, so we buy what we have at our local PetSmart.
You do realize it was pro plan that tested positive for the drug that is used to kill pets right?

I fed pro plan too. And I do know dogs who do well on it. But things like drugs build up in their systems and affect them years down the road.
 

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