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At least the other poster was honest and said they 'are just dogs'. If you consider them 'just dogs' then its not likely that you worry at night if they die before their time to cancer. But FZC I am surprised at you as you seem to genuinely love animals.
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My dogs are my world. If you want to judge me by the food I feed, so be it. And if you are shocked, and questioning just how much they mean to me, then so be that as well. I have nothing to prove in how much I love my animals, just because of the food I choose to feed. I am honestly offended that the love of my animals have come into question simply because I feed them a food that not everyone agree's on.

I'm leaving now, before I say something I'll regret later.
 

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@Dekka Every kibble food contains those or similar ingredients from all of the major brands. You are saying that all of that food is bad so why are they still selling it? If they were so bad and making dogs sick, then they would have bankrupted a long time ago. We tried premium food, and it did not work. Before buying Purina Pro Plan, we looked at Iams, Eukanuba, Pedigree, Nature's Recipe, etc. They even had worse ingredients compared to this food. Again, these are foods that we have at PetSmart.
 

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@Dekka Every kibble food contains those or similar ingredients from all of the major brands. You are saying that all of that food is bad so why are they still selling it? If they were so bad and making dogs sick, then they would have bankrupted a long time ago. We tried premium food, and it did not work. Before buying Purina Pro Plan, we looked at Iams, Eukanuba, Pedigree, Nature's Recipe, etc. They even had worse ingredients compared to this food. Again, these are foods that we have at PetSmart.
That's why I don't feed any of the major brands. They sell it because people still buy it. All the ones you listed are LOW quality foods..

The FDA standards are so low that just about anything goes!! And guess who is on the FDA comities? You guessed it! Employees from the major brands of pet foods! So I can't see the FDA raising its standards.
 

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@Dekka Every kibble food contains those or similar ingredients from all of the major brands. You are saying that all of that food is bad so why are they still selling it? If they were so bad and making dogs sick, then they would have bankrupted a long time ago. We tried premium food, and it did not work. Before buying Purina Pro Plan, we looked at Iams, Eukanuba, Pedigree, Nature's Recipe, etc. They even had worse ingredients compared to this food. Again, these are foods that we have at PetSmart.

PetSmart doesnt sell any decent foods, that is your first problem.

You need to find a different retailer.

Those companies stay in business because the general public doesnt know what is in the food and most dont care. They feed the dog for 8-10 years and when it dies they buy a new one.

Luckily more and more people are starting to see what a difference food can make and other brands are becoming more popular.

If you want to look for a better food, go to the website of one of the higher quality foods and use their store locator, many times there is a store closer than you think but they are small stores and you probably never heard of them.
 

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FZC... its because I KNOW you care about your dogs that I am shocked (not the other way around) I am as shocked as if you said you let them run loose on the street. Its one thing to feed cheap food because for the moment its all you can get, or you don't know better.

But to say 'meh' its fine when there is loads of INDEPENDENT evidence for the contrary. So because I like you and know you love your pets can you please explain to me how you are ok with feeding them the euth drug on a semi regular basis? I really want to know. (as I know other people who feed purina knowing this too and I just don't understand it.. there is NO WAY I could feed a kibble that contains poisons to my dogs knowingly)
 

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You are saying that all of that food is bad so why are they still selling it? If they were so bad and making dogs sick, then they would have bankrupted a long time ago.

We tried premium food, and it did not work. Before buying Purina Pro Plan, we looked at Iams, Eukanuba, Pedigree, Nature's Recipe, etc. They even had worse ingredients compared to this food. Again, these are foods that we have at PetSmart.
Easy answer. They sell it because they can, and because people buy it. An amusing, but true, comparison can be made to why people buy badly-made beer as opposed to the good stuff: it's cheap, and it's recognizable and well-known thanks to advertising.

What Dekka said is true.

If you have a Petsmart in your area, I'm sure there are other smaller-scale pet supply shops that would have a better food selection. Where are you located?
 

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"PetSmart doesnt sell any decent foods, that is your first problem."
@PoodleMommy They sell Blue Wilderness which is listed everywhere as premium food. Although, that was the only brand we found that was considered premium. What food beside raw do you consider good food?
 

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As well to the bankrupt thing. Look how well pedigree does.. those ads are WONDERFUL makes me wish I could liek their food. (haha I loved their bags.. they used to say the meat was inspected but never stated that it passed)

And if your dog does get sick.. try proving it was the food. Even if there is a good case, they have far more money and lawyers that you or I are likely to have.
 

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"PetSmart doesnt sell any decent foods, that is your first problem."
@PoodleMommy They sell Blue Wilderness which is listed everywhere as premium food. Although, that was the only brand we found that was considered premium. What food beside raw do you consider good food?
The Dog Food Project

Dog Food Analysis

Both fantastic sites that give great information on dog nutrition and which brands are good/bad.
 

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"PetSmart doesnt sell any decent foods, that is your first problem."
@PoodleMommy They sell Blue Wilderness which is listed everywhere as premium food. Although, that was the only brand we found that was considered premium. What food beside raw do you consider good food?
Not PM but I can tell you foods "I" like and my dogs did well on.

Orijen (my all time favorite. Made by a small company using all human grade ingredients)
Evo
Innova
Go Natual
Nature's Variety.
Barking at the Moon

thats all I can think of off the top of my head.
 

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"PetSmart doesnt sell any decent foods, that is your first problem."
@PoodleMommy They sell Blue Wilderness which is listed everywhere as premium food. Although, that was the only brand we found that was considered premium. What food beside raw do you consider good food?
I havent looked into Blue Wilderness, so while my guess would be it is not premium if sold at Petsmart I cant really tell you one way or another.

Look for foods made by Natura like Innova, or California Natural, Fromm, Canidae... there are more cant think of off the top of my head.

Also do you have a Costco, many people are happy with kirkland which is made by Diamond although I have no experience with that brand... they are the same people who make the chicken soup line of foods.
 

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Easy answer. They sell it because they can, and because people buy it. An amusing, but true, comparison can be made to why people buy badly-made beer as opposed to the good stuff: it's cheap, and it's recognizable and well-known thanks to advertising.

What Dekka said is true.

If you have a Petsmart in your area, I'm sure there are other smaller-scale pet supply shops that would have a better food selection. Where are you located?

When I was a petsmart manager I was told by corporate that "we only carry the grocery brands because people ask for it, if we don't have it they will complain"

There is a demand. A huge demand..

In fact I was in Petco t'night and people were buying cat chow... You can go down the street to walmart and get cat chow cheaper...

people are simply ignorant som'times and aren't even looking at the prices but are really thinking they are doing som'thing nice for their pet... The comercials and packaging are well thought out on these brands.
 

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Also, if you can find a store that sells different ones you can usually get free samples from them... gives you a chance to try out the foods, see if your dog will eat them before you buy a bag.
 

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Also, if you can find a store that sells different ones you can usually get free samples from them... gives you a chance to try out the foods, see if your dog will eat them before you buy a bag.
My local supply shop has a basket of free samples of Wellness Core, TOTW and Innova. It's awesome.

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@ Dekka Orijen has pretty high protein content: 42.0% It is similar in content to Blue Wilderness and I am afraid to switch my dog to it since he had problems with Blue Wilderness and I was told by some it could be because the food is too strong.
 

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wow 78 posts....pretty interesting considering this was a spam thread.. :p


also the first dog food debate I've seen since I joined... I know why now!
 

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wow 78 posts....pretty interesting considering this was a spam thread.. :p


also the first dog food debate I've seen since I joined... I know why now!
Hahaha, the poster has only 1 post. I just saw that. :rofl1: I think he will thank us. Well, anyways, at least a good discussion came out of this post.
 

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Dogs do differently on different foods. Ada can eat anything but is on Wellness Super5 right now, Ronin is on TOTW and is doing... okay, and Kaylee is back on.... Pro Plan. We tried CalNat for awhile, but after the 6th day in a row of cleaning up patties of diarrhea and watching her coat get ucky, I went out and bought a bag of Pro Plan. Tummy is all better, no more puking, no more nasty coat, no more bumpies, and Montezuma has left the building.

I'll probably put Ronin on it too for awhile, see how he does on it. His coat has gone downhill on TOTW, EVO, Innova RM... everything.

I'm not going to fault people for feeding what works. Yes, pro plan is a cr@p food on paper, but I know many many *many* dogs that do phenomenally well on it for some reason. Most are show dogs. Many have lived into their teens, and have looked amazing every day of their life.

JMHO.
 

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@ Dekka Orijen has pretty high protein content: 42.0% It is similar in content to Blue Wilderness and I am afraid to switch my dog to it since he had problems with Blue Wilderness and I was told by some it could be because the food is too strong.
I like it cause it is close to a raw diet. That is why I posted what worked for my dogs. Whilst they are total couch potatos at home they are active in agility, racing and other dog sports in the summer. I have never had an issue with orijen or the raw. I can see if you had a less than athletic dog living a quiet lifestyle it would be too much. But there are others on that list that are lower (but still higher than crap like dog chow)

The other issue with dog foods (and which takes real digging) is digestible protein. It can have a listed protein level of 24% but only be 12% total digestible protein. The better foods tend to have 'cleaner' more digestible proteins. This is easier on the body than the junk in the lower quality kibbles. If you were to feed lots of low digestible protein of course most dogs would have issues... which is one of the reasons I assume the brand name kibbles are so low.

Here is another interesting fact. Dog food labels are NOT like people food labels. The % are based on weight. NOT total daily amount (I still have the email from Iams on this) So remembering that your kibble is dried a food with 24% protein is the same as the dog eating a moist meal of about 12% can you imagine feeding a raw diet of 12% protein? That is why orijen is so high. If you were to take a basic raw diet (which is around 24% protein wet weight) and dry it it would be more than double its wet weight value.
 

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