Dog Breeds That Shouldn't Be Bred?

Punkygirl0101 · May 15, 2008

I personally am against Designer mutts being bred. There are enough breeds being ruined out there, we don't need to start creating more. And most do it for money.

As for dachshunds, I have never had a dachshund with any back problems, neither has my grandmother, and her mother, etc. Dachshunds have been in this family for years, and we have never had any dogs with any form of a back problem.

SmexyPibble · May 23, 2008

Designer breeds should never be bred much less should they have ever been "invented". Designer breeds such as the following...
"Bug"
"Labradoodle"
"Goldendoodle""
"Shipoo"
"Lhasapoo"
"Doxipoo"
"Chipoo"
"Puggle"
"Zuchon"
"Chidox"
As they are just putting two breed names together and selling them for as much as $2000 saying they are "registered", when really, their registry really only means this crap...
http://www.designerbreedregistry.com/
Which I do not believe at all. I have seen designer breeds at pet stores all too many times being bought because "Ohhh Bug is such a cute name", "Lets have a Puggle shipped to us because they are just too cute", "Ohh that Zuchon is just too adorable not to take home". Or the classic spoiled kids, "Daddy..I want THAT puppy there!". They aren't worried about the health of the animals, they just want the cute little puppy. Nor are the breeders worried about anything but the money of breeding "purebred designer breeds" *ROLLS EYES*. It's rediculous...

ALSO, Golden Retrievers and Labrador Retrievers DO NOT need any more breeders. They are WAY to overbred which leads to bad healthy/tempermant. A lot of breeders breed them just because they know "everyone wants a Golden" or "everyone wants a Lab" and they know they can get money off of it. Which leads to aggresive/unhealthy dogs. Which led to my pit bull and my Boxer being brutally attacked by my neighbor's two Goldens when they broke into our yard. Which also led to them killing my friend's 12 year old Rottweiler, who was walking on a leash when they got out, and led to them killing my other friend's Dachshund, who was also on a leash when they ran out and tore the puppy down from her arms and killed it. My mom pulled the puppy up and held it in the air, which was when the Goldens bit her arms until the owner came out. The puppy died from internal injury. Overbreeding leads to unhealthy and/or aggresive dogs, which leads to other dogs being seriously injured or killed. P.S. the owners of the Goldens that attacked and killed said they weren't putting the animals down, we called the police, etc. and the dogs were going to be PTS immedietly but the breeder called saying "No that'd give me a bad rap" and took the dogs back...

So basically NO designer breeds and NO MORE Golden/Lab breeders.

Those Renassance Bulldogs are awesome looking! I like the Gorgoyle ones okay, but don't love the Hideaway one much. I don't know if their breeding should be encouraged or not, as I do not know much about the breed at all.

SmexyPibble · May 23, 2008

Punkygirl0101 said:

I have met Dachshunds with health problems as they are overbred in the US. My Dachshund died at 17, so the health depends on the breeder because history is a lot of what matters.

Boemy · May 23, 2008

SmexyPibble said:

Man, I hear you on that. The boss at the place where I used to work bought a "puggle" off an internet site because he "couldn't find a dog in town." This was in a large city with no less than THREE animal shelters, plus countless rescue groups!!! ARGH!

Brattina88 · May 23, 2008

I have to agree with designer dogs. Actually, I don't 100% disagree with whats being bred, its to HOW they are bred! Health testing, temperament, function, socialization etc. If ALL of that is taken into consideration when a dog is bred, then its not fair to write the breed off so to say . . .
:lol-sign:

Bahamutt99 said:

Yup, there are!

Never met a cocker you described, but I'm sure they exist...
I myself prefer ones with less coat - the ones in the show ring, I find myself wondering how they funtion? Maddie would die of depression if she had that much coat, and couldn't romp in the woods!

corgipower said:

ouch

Renee750il · May 27, 2008

Romy said:

I hear ya on THAT! Breaks my heart to see what the GSD is becoming . . .

Amstaffer · May 27, 2008

Tough question....

First I don't think any laws of any kind should be attached to a breed...breeding or otherwise.

But as far as what I think should be or is ethical to breed....any dog breed that on an 85 degree day cannot be walked one mile without serious risk to their health should not be IMHO bred without a goal of changing their "issues".

Some breeds have such bad breathing problems because of mans meddling it is just sad. I think every time someone breeds dogs, the number one goal should be to breed a healthier (physical and mental) dog, function second and looks later.

MafiaPrincess · May 28, 2008

corgipower said:

Thanks for that.. I'm sure anyone with either breed feels good about having an apparently disgusting dog.

Zoom · May 28, 2008

I hate to say it, but work at a boarding kennel and you'll understand just how right corgipower is.

Not saying they shouldn't be bred because of it but OMG did I not like seeing those guys come to board. Cocker tend to pee EVERYWHERE, all the time and then roll in it. Wheatens like to channel Picasso with their poop. Nearly every. Single. One.

Brattina88 · May 28, 2008

I'm sorry you guys have had bad experiences with the breed, but that's a very negative stereotype and I can't understand why its okay to zero out cockers... It's not okay to say ALL pits are aggressive, so why is it okay to say ALL cockers pee everywhere and apparently are the filthiest? I may be whining here, but honestly its not just this thread that I've felt this way about, recently....

That being said, is it fair to judge a breed by experiences you've had boarding? Many of these breeds are meant to be family dogs, meant to be brushed, meant to be let outside, etc...

Laurelin · May 28, 2008

If it makes you feel any better, I've met some awesome cocker spaniels.

mom2dogs · May 28, 2008

corgipower said:

There's plenty of breeds I would never own (the two listed above included), and when I think of "gross" I think immediately think of a certain toy breed that I know many people on this board own. *For me* they have nothing redeemable. But to many others they are lovely, which is why I would never say they shouldn't be bred (don't think you were serious about them altogether not being bred..... much

) because of my past experiences or preferences.. and I still think some are cute. Heck, I would never own another WHWT and that's what my own dog is. Most of the ones I work with at shows drive me nuts :lol-sign: When she does have a litter after she's finished the only reason I'll keep a puppy is to see how s/he grows...

~Zips flame suit on and runs~

IMO, breeds need improving not disappearing. It's a shame things are taken to extremes, but that's with everything not just dogs.

Hopefully I made some sense.

Zoom · May 28, 2008

I'm not saying anything against them as far as family pets go. I'm sure they are FABULOUS family pets, otherwise we wouldn't have a board full of cocker spaniels!

I love playing with them at the park and stuff, they're usually pretty happy.

They're just not very much fun to take care of when boarding. That's all I was getting at.

Renee750il · May 28, 2008

I'd bet that very few dogs - or breeds - are at their best when boarding

Zoom · May 28, 2008

Papillons seem to take to it pretty well...all the pitties we got did fine...most of the giant breeds (though there was one Newf that I had to handfeed on occassion),Rotties...surprisingly basset hounds did well.

Actually, most of the dogs that are on my "will own" list are ones that didn't all lose their brains during boarding and/or daycare. And those opinions are based on almost 3 years of working at a resort and seeing multiple examples. I've learned never to go off of just one dog for any breed.

Then again, may I point out my "will NEVER own one yet oh look what's lying on my bed" Lab?

Tazwell · May 28, 2008

I hate grooming Cockers at the Salon, because they do piddle every time you look at them... Ugh... They're very sweet little dogs, though! Nobody brushes them out. I often wonder why people buy dogs with a ton of hair, and then never brush it out. They come in matted to the skin all the time...

Amstaffer · May 28, 2008

Brattina88 said:

You are not whining...you are right. Stereotypes are wrong about Pit bulls and they are wrong about Cockers and they are wrong about >insert any breed here<.

MafiaPrincess · May 28, 2008

Tazwell said:

And more..

Anyone not have cocker stereotypes to share, as it's getting a little old? So you don't like my breed, apparently half this thread doesn't like my breed. Doesn't mean I enjoy some of yours, but I'm not bashing anyone else's dogs.. Well bred cockers don't randomly pee thanks, getting a little tired of the bast fest, thanks all.

Dizzy · May 28, 2008

Any breed that has been bred into a characterture of it's former self.

Doxies (compare your average show one to a working one).

Bulldogs.

Bassetts (same as doxies)

etc etc etc etc.

I don't say NOT breed them necessarily. Just sort them out, poor dogs.

Renee750il · May 28, 2008

Zoom said:

Actually, most of the dogs that are on my "will own" list are ones that didn't all lose their brains during boarding and/or daycare. And those opinions are based on almost 3 years of working at a resort and seeing multiple examples. I've learned never to go off of just one dog for any breed.

Then again, may I point out my "will NEVER own one yet oh look what's lying on my bed" Lab?

Filas SUCK at being boarded, lol . . .

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