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LOL I know... I love how everyone tries to "trick" him into saying something that will prove his faith is bogus or something... lol I don't get that.
I mean are they trying to prove that women are meant to be submissive instead of what the scripture actually says?
We are supposed to have "empathy" for a religious group that condones putting a woman to death for naming a teddy bear.... but by GEORGE we MUST prove this Christianity thing to be bogus LOL.... funnay
I mean are they trying to prove that women are meant to be submissive instead of what the scripture actually says?
We are supposed to have "empathy" for a religious group that condones putting a woman to death for naming a teddy bear.... but by GEORGE we MUST prove this Christianity thing to be bogus LOL.... funnay
See you and I must have a different opinion of what they mean by "submitting" to your husband.
This certainly doesn't sound like the kind of submitting I think you are taking it as.
Of course there are some people who would take it to the extreme.... but I see that scripture that leads to this class as this....
No you don't HAVE to submit to your husbands.... but you should want to.... and I don't mean submit as in never question him, do whatever he says, yadda yadda yadda. But you should WANT to do things for him... and in turn if he is a good husband and a TRUE man of God.... he will not MAKE you and he will also want to submit to YOU.
I see the word "submit" in this sense as a give a little take a little.
I think women see the word submit and take it as they must bow down to their spouse and adhere to his every wish and command.
I do not see it that way.
I do not ALWAYS get what I want and I do not ALWAYS p!ss and moan when I don't get what I want. And my husband does the same for me. To me "submitting" is just compromise.
I think a lot of divorces happen because women are so caught up in this word "submit" that they aren't willing to bend on ANYTHING. Now before everyone gets their panties in a wad... I KNOW there are many reasons for divorce.... many times it's the mans "fault"... many times it is the womans "fault.... and many times it is both parties "fault". But I have also seen Too many women who take this "woman's lib" movement to extremes. many women seem to think that THEY should have all the say and the man gets no say. I see it all the time in the way many women treat their husbands and yes husbands can be just as horrible to their wives.... but all to often I see a man who is genuine and sincere and really loves his wife and she uses that to stomp all over him and get whatever she wants because she knows he will "submit" to her. THIS is the kind of submitting that is wrong. IMO you don't bully your partner, you don't manipulate your partner and you don't abuse your partner jsut so you get what you want (this includes men AND women) but I see this all the time. if you are going to submit in the true biblical sense of the word it should be because YOU choose to and your spouse will NEVER make you if you are both truly a couple of God (not to say that if you aren't a couple of faith that you can't have the same relationship.... I am not saying that at all... this is all directed towards to view of that verse)
I "submit" to Brian and make dinner (sometimes lol... he is a better cook than I am) because I know that makes him happy to have that break after a long day at work and it makes ME happy to do that for him. BUT he never MAKES me do it. He also realizes that I am sometimes too busy with hannah to clean the kitchen or make dinner or whatever.... and he is more than happy to jump in and "submit" to me by doing these things because he knows it will make me happy and he is happy to make me happy.
I wish they would just change that word submit to something else and then there wouldn't be the confusion.
Just remember.... wedding vows that say "to Love, Honor and Obey...." are recited by the MAN and WOMAN in the house of God.
This certainly doesn't sound like the kind of submitting I think you are taking it as.
Of course there are some people who would take it to the extreme.... but I see that scripture that leads to this class as this....
No you don't HAVE to submit to your husbands.... but you should want to.... and I don't mean submit as in never question him, do whatever he says, yadda yadda yadda. But you should WANT to do things for him... and in turn if he is a good husband and a TRUE man of God.... he will not MAKE you and he will also want to submit to YOU.
I see the word "submit" in this sense as a give a little take a little.
I think women see the word submit and take it as they must bow down to their spouse and adhere to his every wish and command.
I do not see it that way.
I do not ALWAYS get what I want and I do not ALWAYS p!ss and moan when I don't get what I want. And my husband does the same for me. To me "submitting" is just compromise.
I think a lot of divorces happen because women are so caught up in this word "submit" that they aren't willing to bend on ANYTHING. Now before everyone gets their panties in a wad... I KNOW there are many reasons for divorce.... many times it's the mans "fault"... many times it is the womans "fault.... and many times it is both parties "fault". But I have also seen Too many women who take this "woman's lib" movement to extremes. many women seem to think that THEY should have all the say and the man gets no say. I see it all the time in the way many women treat their husbands and yes husbands can be just as horrible to their wives.... but all to often I see a man who is genuine and sincere and really loves his wife and she uses that to stomp all over him and get whatever she wants because she knows he will "submit" to her. THIS is the kind of submitting that is wrong. IMO you don't bully your partner, you don't manipulate your partner and you don't abuse your partner jsut so you get what you want (this includes men AND women) but I see this all the time. if you are going to submit in the true biblical sense of the word it should be because YOU choose to and your spouse will NEVER make you if you are both truly a couple of God (not to say that if you aren't a couple of faith that you can't have the same relationship.... I am not saying that at all... this is all directed towards to view of that verse)
I "submit" to Brian and make dinner (sometimes lol... he is a better cook than I am) because I know that makes him happy to have that break after a long day at work and it makes ME happy to do that for him. BUT he never MAKES me do it. He also realizes that I am sometimes too busy with hannah to clean the kitchen or make dinner or whatever.... and he is more than happy to jump in and "submit" to me by doing these things because he knows it will make me happy and he is happy to make me happy.
I wish they would just change that word submit to something else and then there wouldn't be the confusion.
Just remember.... wedding vows that say "to Love, Honor and Obey...." are recited by the MAN and WOMAN in the house of God.
