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smkie

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back to the topic this thread is about..my old boss had two large female sisters..one named Princess and the other Chalk. They were the large bodied almost white labradors with extremely good hunting instincts and he wished to breed both. It was not to happen because neither ever came in season and that about broke his heart..anyway i commend you for planning far ahead in the future..what about alternating heat cycles if they do come in at the same time..breed one this time..and if all goes well, the other the next. just a thought. for those that wish to not have arguements..you can use ignore and you won't even see the posts of the person you do not feel like dealing with. i have never used it especially since i am a mod, but would have found it useful in the past.
 
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smkie said:
back to the topic this thread is about..my old boss had two large female sisters..one named Princess and the other Chalk. They were the large bodied almost white labradors with extremely good hunting instincts and he wished to breed both. It was not to happen because neither ever came in season and that about broke his heart..anyway i commend you for planning far ahead in the future..what about alternating heat cycles if they do come in at the same time..breed one this time..and if all goes well, the other the next. just a thought.
Yes that is what i had in mind, I would breed one when she is ready and the other 6 months later when she has her season, their mum came into season on the dot at 6 months then every six months after that, so I am wondering if they will be the sam, I just hope they are easy whelpers and great mums too. I also think that with small dogs I am lucky because by the time they reach two they have had a lot more seasons before a large breed, which i think does them good, as they get used to a normal season, its not so good for us as we have to shaperone (sp) them more often which is hard work lol
 

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they come in season much more often then our girls did. We bred..actually i should say my boss bred a female when she was about 4 years old..and every other year or so for a couple litters then she was retired..that is all but poor old Blitz and Bo's BB..but alas that wasn't our fault, but the blame goes to the one that stole her. I was amazed at how many puppies are in your siggy..is that normal for one litter of jack russels? i know nothing of the smaller breeds. The kennel i grew up in was strictly labs and goldens and totally field trial not show.
 
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they come in season much more often then our girls did. We bred..actually i should say my boss bred a female when she was about 4 years old..and every other year or so for a couple litters then she was retired..that is all but poor old Blitz and Bo's BB..but alas that wasn't our fault, but the blame goes to the one that stole her. I was amazed at how many puppies are in your siggy..is that normal for one litter of jack russels? i know nothing of the smaller breeds. The kennel i grew up in was strictly labs and goldens and totally field trial not show.
Well we didnt expect 8 for a first litter, But mummy was from a litter of 13 and i think daddy was one of 9, but a few others I have spoken too only have about 4-6 in a litter, but most Jacks I know are from large litters, its a lot for a little mum to cope with lol
 

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i should say so..our biggest was 14. I started working at the kennel was i was 12. It was my job to assist mom in birth as well as care for the pups right up to sale time. Later on i handled that as well. This is on top of training and cleaning the kennels. I was always given pick of the litter..i could either keep the puppy or sell it. Quite an honor to be able to keep the one you wanted from the get go. later on he also sent me to pick out the pups from litters where he had studded out. i am pretty proficient at this job..had 20 years of practice. I cannot imagine so many coming out of a little dog like that...good for your dog's grandmum..wow 13 is a lot!
 
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smkie said:
i should say so..our biggest was 14. I started working at the kennel was i was 12. It was my job to assist mom in birth as well as care for the pups right up to sale time. Later on i handled that as well. This is on top of training and cleaning the kennels. I was always given pick of the litter..i could either keep the puppy or sell it. Quite an honor to be able to keep the one you wanted from the get go. later on he also sent me to pick out the pups from litters where he had studded out. i am pretty proficient at this job..had 20 years of practice. I cannot imagine so many coming out of a little dog like that...good for your dog's grandmum..wow 13 is a lot!
Yes I couldnt belive it either, I have told my girls if they do that to me then there will be troubble and they will have to help for longer hehe
 
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I agree with Smkie just put the two arguers on ignore because we all know here that you are very responsible. Man if you were closer you would be my mentor instead of Sam. I have gone and read all the posts on the other forum and they are darn near word for word here. So obviously they are both bringing their crap from another forum here. If I was you Gallien I would PM the link to the other forum to Renee and let her deal with it. It is very frowned upon these people bringing other forum BS here.
 

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Yuckaduck if you are referrring to me as one of the arguers can you please point out where or when Ive done anything of the sort. I asked and will clarify where and which shows these dogs are doing well at! I would also ask if they've won any KC shows, most people on here seem to think dogs should have some sort of KC recognition before they are breed so I wondered if they had any.
 
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Yuckaduck if you are referrring to me as one of the arguers can you please point out where or when Ive done anything of the sort. I asked and will clarify where and which shows these dogs are doing well at! I would also ask if they've won any KC shows, most people on here seem to think dogs should have some sort of KC recognition before they are breed so I wondered if they had any.
Nope not you at all. I do not think you are new either. Have you not been here awhile?

I am talking about the two who followed Gallien here from another forum. That ain't you! Interesting though how you would think it is!!:D
 

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I just wanted to say I think i know who you are and where you are from! Please get a life!
I am sorry but I don't know what you are talking about.

I stated how I feel I know I read that but it must have been edited.

Is this how you treat new members here ? You have been very rude and so has Yuckaduck.

I have very strong opinions about wrongful breeding, and as long as I keep my opinions respectful I do believe I am able to express them here or am I wrong about that ? Or are there a selct few here that " rule " the roost?

Chasing away new members is wrong and very disresepctful.By the way I have no plans on leaving this forum as I have done nothing here to deserve being bashed this way, but I am staying because I do believe there are some nice people here.
 
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I am sorry but I don't know what you are talking about.

I stated how I feel I know I read that but it must have been edited.

Is this how you treat new members here ? You have been very rude and so has Yuckaduck.

I have very strong opinions about wrongful breeding, and as long as I keep my opinions respectful I do believe I am able to express them here or am I wrong about that ? Or are there a selct few here that " rule " the roost?

Chasing away new members is wrong and very disresepctful.By the way I have no plans on leaving this forum as I have done nothing here to deserve being bashed this way, but I am staying because I do believe there are some nice people here.

You have never been bashed here, nor has anyone been rude to you. No one editted the posts just to make you look bad. You read about the dog on another forum and then brought it here. If you wish to be treated with respect here, then you need to offer respect back. Leave other forums on other forums and enjoy this one for what it is. Also to come here and attack Gallien and accuse her of being irresponsible is rude...so who is rude? Gallien is responsible and has been a respected member here for a long time. It makes no sense to me for you to come here and attack her repeatedly then cry about the reaction. I am by no means trying to chase anyone away, just be defending my friend, who I know to be responsible. It ticks me off to see newbies causing trouble and making false accusations.

Bottum line you want to be treated with respect then you must treat others with respect. Do unto others as you would have done to you!


I wonder if the word Dobified means anything here!:D
 
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Can you plese point out what you are refering to ?

I have only stated my opinions. So I really do not know what you are refering to.

I can't not believe how rude you are to attack a new member this way is disgraceful. I never accused anyone of any thing I do believe that people were debating some issues and I stated my views on the subject so please tell me how that makes me rude ??:confused:

If someone doesn't want things debated in the pulic forum maybe they should not post for it to be debated. This is a disscussion forum right??


Bottum line you want to be treated with respect then you must treat others with respect. Do unto others as you would have done to you!
And what does this mean? I have not been disrespectful to anyone.

I can't get over how disrespectful this quote is. I guess I was wrong about this forum . Is everyoine here into attacking new members this way ?

Wow chill out. Still nto going to be chased away, I have just as much right to be here as you do both of you.
 
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dobelover, this is the last I will say on this matter! this topic is about breeding sitters nothing else, and I also sugest you read up on the rules of this forum, you will also see that posts can not be edited after a time, they can be edited instantly but that is it, we know who you are and you are just being childish!
 

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Wow this site seems pretty paranoid! :eek: I didn't realize new members could be treated like this, is there not rules in place to prevent it from happening? Surely we are all welcome here - although it seems to not be the case. I only joined last week so I'm probably not allowed to post here but I'm going to anyway.

What problems are we talking about ????? It hasn't been addressed only brushed over from what I can see.

I have been involved in breeding for some years now and I must stress the importance of responsibility. I certainly hope that offspring with possible temperament or health worries would never be bred from. That is asking for trouble in my opinion. It is a well-known FACT that both of those can be passed on and the last thing we need in this already vastly over-populated world are more animals with health and/or behavioural issues. Every year there are so many innocent animals put to sleep through no fault of their own and I would hate to see you add to that statistic.

Maybe you could make some things clear for us? The mother is dead? :( Is that due to the health or temperament issues?? I am incredibly sorry for your loss and seriously hope it doesn't become a problem with her own puppies.

I know that in my area the shelters are filled with unwanted JRT and most of them are put to sleep. It's the sad reality.

What exactly did you want to know about breeding sisters? I'm afraid to say that it is unlikely that both will be great so it really should not be too much of a concern. However I see nothing wrong with having 2 litters at once if you truly can provide for them and are up for the commitment. I can say from experience that it is a heck of a lot of work so hopefully you have some time to get prepared before it becomes reality.

How old will they be before they are bred? Are you going to get health screening etc done? Hopefully have at least them or the sire titled? Have you got good homes planned already?

This may come out the wrong way but I must at least try to educate people and yes this poster may be responsible but her posts aren't coming across as such, no offense intended there.

Good breeders seek advice and they take it into consideration. They are grateful to get others viewpoints and they continue to learn as much as they can constantly.

I hope you are doing your research, this site looks like a good place to start.

I know my post might sound harsh but I have witnessed the devastating results of bad breeding too many times. Too many dogs suffer and too many die all unnecessarily. Now I am in no way saying that is what is happening here but some of the comments did concern me.

I wish you good luck and sincerely hope that the sisters and other puppies (if there were any) are all okay.
 
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ahhh when will people listen she DOESNT have any temperment problems, Its all about a personaility clash and that is all, we cant all like each other, but some people seem to think its ok to follow others and cause nothing but hastle
 

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Gallien, I know it's a hassle, but I think you may need to post a recap of this breeding, the Cliff Notes Version. IE: Why you decided to breed the mom, what happened to her during the pregnancy, what happened to her after the fact, what you are doing with the puppies...all that jazz.
 

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I don't understand what you are talking about when you said after my post that "we cant all like each other, but some people seem to think its ok to follow others and cause nothing but hastle"
I'm sorry you feel like that but I can promise you that I have not done any of that.
I think that Zoom's request sounds very fair, I like to give people a chance and if you are a truly reputable breeder who follows the code of ethics etc I won't question your reasons again.
 
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all anyone has to do is look back through all my posts here, i dont have the time nor the energy to post a whole story at the mo, if you have a few quick questions I would be glad to anwser them
 
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