Attack Dog training and protection

[fearless]

Hi again every one
I want to ask about if I can train my rottie the attack dog training by my self with out trainer??
I came from diffrent country to another to study in uni and i live in a naber that full of drugs dealers and gangstas yester day i went do the doc with my puppy KELLY .. cuz one of my stupid nabers with a 2 years dobe and fight with my dog with more than 15 person as crowd ..
yester day i was about to go back to my country cuz when i called the police they saied we have things more important than ur silly case i was so angry .. i think im became an agressive not the dog..
i study in malaysia in far east side of the world.. help me plz people .. i need a trainer in here or im goin to train the dog by my self ..

 

[DanL]

This is wrong on so many levels.

1st, to answer your questions, no, you can't attack train yourself.
2nd, if your dog is a pup it is not old enough for this kind of training- a rottie will be well over a year old before it has the protective instincts it needs to do this.
3rd, training your dog to protect you and training it to fight your neighbors dobie are different things.

 

[fearless]

hey dan thx for answer but i think u missed understand my point man i dont want to let my dog fight with others dogs man this is so wrong and i hate that and im against dogs fighting cuz i feel sad when i see thing like that
but what i meant here i want my dog to be ready im alone man i hope u understand and i need somthing to be beside me just in case

 

[oriondw]

How in the world did you let your dog fight a 2 year old dobe...


Seriously? Where were you looking?? Did you willingly let them fight....

wow

 

[fearless]

man can u just reread what i wrote?
no comment

 

[oriondw]

man can u just reread what i wrote?
no comment

"cuz one of my stupid nabers with a 2 years dobe and fight with my dog with more than 15 person as crowd .. "

I read it well. ...

 

[mojozen]

To answer your question - No you cannot train your dog to be an effective protection dog by yourself. It is an intricate process that can't just be done by reading a book or asking a few questions on a bulletin board such as this one. Training a dog to sit is an entirely different matter than teaching a dog to be a protection dog.

It is also an undertaking that takes years of training! You can't do it (correctly) in under 6 months. First your dog will need to learn obedience commands and when he can respond to them from you without hesitation, without a food reward or expectation of praise -- that's when you can probably start protection training with a qualified trainer.

You will not want your dog to be left in the care of others - such as your neighbor. You will want your dog to positively socialize with all people and all animals - NO FIGHTS EVER!!! - You want your dog to be able to differentiate between a bad person and a good person -- a bad animal and a good animal. That will not happen if you isolate your dog, or allow him to be placed in circumstances where he can fight other dogs or kill other animals.

 

[Gempress]

From reading the OP, he did not deliberately fight his dog. His neighbors were fighting their dog against his while he wasn't there. Hence, the trip to the vet and the call to the police.

But you cannot safely train a protection dog by yourself. As to your neighbors, I'm not sure what advice I can give you, except to pack your stuff and move.

 

[RD]

No. You can't do it yourself. Honestly, it doesn't sound like you have a good enough grasp on dog behavior to handle a protection dog, much less train one.

 

[JennSLK]

Atack dog training?!

It's called Shutzhund.

I agree with RD

 

[rottnpagan]

Atack dog training?!

It's called Shutzhund.

I agree with RD

No, it's not. Schutzhund is NOT 'attack dog' training. It is a PROTECTION sport. It's compiled of three segments, none of which is more important than the other.

A rottweiler does NOT need to be trained specially to protect its people. A proper rottweiler does this naturally, when the time calls for it.

 

[amymarley]

since you have no background in traing... my adive would to put up a sign from a pet store "ATTACK DOG" or whatever. Your dog may bark and that will deter "bad people." Stick in your window, or your door.

 

[Rubylove]

I don't know animalbiz - I mean, his neighbours pitted their doberman against the poor thing without the owner being there, putting up `attack dog' in that kind of neighbourhood might well exacerbate that kind of thing. It does sound like a rough neighbourhood.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

since you have no background in traing... my adive would to put up a sign from a pet store "ATTACK DOG" or whatever. Your dog may bark and that will deter "bad people." Stick in your window, or your door.

This is a certain way to prosecution and jail time if your dog happens to bite someone.

NEVER put up a sign that indicates in any way your dog might bite.

If you want a sign, put up a no trespassing one.

Other signs are an admission of prior knowledge that your dog is dangerous if there is any incident.

 

[Rubylove]

Fearless, I wanted to ask. Was your dog hurt in the fight? And what happened with your neighours? I'm sure they didn't apologise but I hope you got some kind of guarantee that this won't happen again.

 

[Renee750il]

Absolutely correct, Red!

This is a certain way to prosecution and jail time if your dog happens to bite someone.

NEVER put up a sign that indicates in any way your dog might bite.

If you want a sign, put up a no trespassing one.

Other signs are an admission of prior knowledge that your dog is dangerous if there is any incident.

 

[amymarley]

I totally disagree with the above.

Well, the first page, I don't think a person should train an "attack dog" without knowing how to do it.

As for the signs, ATTACK DOG...I am all for it. It gives a deterentant and the person who posted, a warning... if they come in uninvited, then that is there fault. No one is going fight that.

I have my signs, my dogs, and my gun, I promise you, I will not be at fault if some "weirdo" comes into my home.

 

[rottiegirl]

I totally disagree with the above.

Well, the first page, I don't think a person should train an "attack dog" without knowing how to do it.

As for the signs, ATTACK DOG...I am all for it. It gives a deterentant and the person who posted, a warning... if they come in uninvited, then that is there fault. No one is going fight that.

I have my signs, my dogs, and my gun, I promise you, I will not be at fault if some "weirdo" comes into my home.

I completely agree with you. I have never seen a sign that said "attack dog" around where I live, but signs that say "security dog" or "beware of dog" are quite popular.

If someone comes onto your property, it is their fault. I highly doubt someone would go onto anyones property that warned them of an attack dog anyway.

A simple sign that said "no trespassing" would be less effective.

 

[IliamnasQuest]

In some places, a "beware of dog" or "attack dog" sign is taken as an admission that you have an aggressive dog, and if someone gets bit by your dog than you can be held liable.

And in the case of the original poster, he's already got problems because he's got aggressive neighbors who WANT to fight the dogs - this could very well encourage them more.

I'd be looking hard for a new place to live if I were there.

On the topic of signs, however .. my sign says "Be Aware That There Are German Shepherds and Chows On the Premises" .. people may READ it as "beware" but when it comes right down to it that's not what it says. And they're met at the door with five barking dogs .. *L*

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

 

[Rubylove]

In Australia, if you attack an intruder with intent to harm, you are liable. It sucks, but it's the way it is. Therefore, if you had a gun (of which thankfully, there are not many in Australia - in fact virtually unheard of) and someone breaks into your house with a knife, and you shoot them, you are going to jail, baby.

A gun for `defence' purposes, is a crock, IMO. It just perpetuates the gun problem. But then, I don't live somewhere where someone pulling a gun on me is going to happen.

Even if you hit someone who breaks into your house with a baseball bat that happens to be in a corner, you can still get done, here. It's totally unfair but I can also see where the laws came in. The Australian law system is trying to protect everyone, and trying to stop the cycle of violence. That, in itself, I agree with.

People have `beware of the dog' signs up all over here. I don't have a problem with it - I think `Attack Dog' is a little different - it says that you know your dog will attack, but a sign warning people that you have a dog is a different story. We used to have a sign about our GSDs when we had them.