Anxiety in public, reactivness and lunging...
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You know I've just about had it with these "Whip your utilitarian dog into submission" people.
You are here because you have outstayed your welcome everywhere else, haven't you? You could start your own forum but there would be an echo in it wouldn't there? I am sick and tired of watching respected trainers in their field have to defend against abusive advice.
Do not assume that the people on this board fell off the back of a moving truck.
Come to think of it, I just came up with a new tool for you. You can throw your dog off the back of a moving truck. That ought to straighten him out. A broken dog is a happy dog, right?
You are here because you have outstayed your welcome everywhere else, haven't you? You could start your own forum but there would be an echo in it wouldn't there? I am sick and tired of watching respected trainers in their field have to defend against abusive advice.
Do not assume that the people on this board fell off the back of a moving truck.
Come to think of it, I just came up with a new tool for you. You can throw your dog off the back of a moving truck. That ought to straighten him out. A broken dog is a happy dog, right?
I dont show my dogs, dog shows do nothing for my breed. I train my dogs in CPP, French Ring, Schutzhund, ect and train/raise pups for the police department. I dont have time for useless agility and conformation shows.
I dont force my dog to do anything, they do it for two reasons
a) because they get a reward (more toy based)
b) because I asked that behavior from them, whether or not a reward is present.
Flooding? I have no idea what that is, but whatever
I'm getting a little tired of your ignorance, so have fun prancing around the agility ring, I have real dogs to train.
I dont force my dog to do anything, they do it for two reasons
a) because they get a reward (more toy based)
b) because I asked that behavior from them, whether or not a reward is present.
Flooding? I have no idea what that is, but whatever
I'm getting a little tired of your ignorance, so have fun prancing around the agility ring, I have real dogs to train.
Who said anything about whipping a dog? I love how you all come up with such nonsense.
No I am on many other forums, I just come here to read all these ignorant pet dog trainers, its kinda amusing to me.
I find it funny how no one gives advice for headstrong dogs, fearful dogs, agression ect on this forum, but recommend a behavioralist that more and like will use some form of corrections. Just becuase I use a prong doesnt mean I'm abusive. Go preach to the kids blowing cats up, and get the hell off me. Well, while you people struggle with DA, fearful dogs ect, I'll be here enjoying all my dogs whose problems where fixed with a couple of corrections.
But what do I know, I'm sure you have trained MANY more dogs that I have.
Have a nice day
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So you train, but don't show Shutzhund? Or anything else? And just so you know, I don't just do agility. But I do like it better than obedience, as I find obed very easy (yes my dogs are titled in obed)
Then why is your name ShowDawgs? Seems a little like false advertising to me. I do know people who train, and show in Shutz, and they seem much more knowledgeable than you do. When people say they don't beleive in showing, it always seems to be those that may have to much to lose, by putting thier money where their mouth is, so to speak.
The fact that you have no idea what flooding means scares me greatly. It simply underlines the fact you have no idea about training/behaviour. And its NOT a positive training term. The local e collar trainer, uses the term, frequently. (I know cause I talk to her.)
Then why is your name ShowDawgs? Seems a little like false advertising to me. I do know people who train, and show in Shutz, and they seem much more knowledgeable than you do. When people say they don't beleive in showing, it always seems to be those that may have to much to lose, by putting thier money where their mouth is, so to speak.
The fact that you have no idea what flooding means scares me greatly. It simply underlines the fact you have no idea about training/behaviour. And its NOT a positive training term. The local e collar trainer, uses the term, frequently. (I know cause I talk to her.)
oohh Obedience...I'm scared now. Like I said before, my name is my decision, not yours. Have you seen GSD's in the show rings, my dogs would be laughed at.
I apologize for the "flooding" comment. I thought you were bringing up the "make a dog think its drowning" crap people keep bringing up. I use the word desensatizing or neutralization. My dogs must learn to adapt to my environment, but this starts at a young age so its not exactly "forcing" them to overcome any fear,because my dogs, know I'm there to protect them, from the time they are 8 weeks old.
Yes I do trial, but Schutzhund doesnt seem to interest me anymore. French Ring and Mondio are much more interesting to me. but I dont spend my whole life trialing, i prefer to just train and have fun with my dogs in my very limited free time.
I apologize for the "flooding" comment. I thought you were bringing up the "make a dog think its drowning" crap people keep bringing up. I use the word desensatizing or neutralization. My dogs must learn to adapt to my environment, but this starts at a young age so its not exactly "forcing" them to overcome any fear,because my dogs, know I'm there to protect them, from the time they are 8 weeks old.
Yes I do trial, but Schutzhund doesnt seem to interest me anymore. French Ring and Mondio are much more interesting to me. but I dont spend my whole life trialing, i prefer to just train and have fun with my dogs in my very limited free time.
Kayla - OMG, Duke looks EXACTLY like my Angel except her tail is more curly. Too funny. The other weird thing is she has some of the same issues. She's scared of things that aren't normal and will bark/lunge (while she's shaking).
I've been lucky that our life is pretty standard to where we don't have a lot of guests so she's not exposed to strangers very often. Even better for us/her is that this year we've had to travel a lot of out state and she's had to stay with my groomer/boarder and there she's exposed to many different dogs and people. She has an open door kind of thing and has a lot of guests (which Angel is usually really scared of men) and now just from being over there it's kind of fixed her problem.
Our true test was last night when my brother from out of state (who she'd never met) had to come into the house without us being home (I had him so scared that she would attack him - lol - but I really did have to warn him) and she actually warmed up to him within a matter of minutes. Before all her exposure this year it would take her months. One guy I dated last year for a good 4 months, she would growl and bark at him non-stop.
Sorry to ramble, thought it was funny that we have similar dogs. Not sure if what helped Angel will help Duke but just wanted to let you know what worked for us.
I've been lucky that our life is pretty standard to where we don't have a lot of guests so she's not exposed to strangers very often. Even better for us/her is that this year we've had to travel a lot of out state and she's had to stay with my groomer/boarder and there she's exposed to many different dogs and people. She has an open door kind of thing and has a lot of guests (which Angel is usually really scared of men) and now just from being over there it's kind of fixed her problem.
Our true test was last night when my brother from out of state (who she'd never met) had to come into the house without us being home (I had him so scared that she would attack him - lol - but I really did have to warn him) and she actually warmed up to him within a matter of minutes. Before all her exposure this year it would take her months. One guy I dated last year for a good 4 months, she would growl and bark at him non-stop.
Sorry to ramble, thought it was funny that we have similar dogs. Not sure if what helped Angel will help Duke but just wanted to let you know what worked for us.
I in no way was referring to conformation. You were the one who said you were scared. Flyball is easier than obed too, so that should be a piece of cake for you.
Mine perform fine too. But you were the one saying mine won't. I never said yours wouldn't perform. But you bash my training. At least I have the titles and credentials to back up what I claim. So far you haven't.
Mine perform fine too. But you were the one saying mine won't. I never said yours wouldn't perform. But you bash my training. At least I have the titles and credentials to back up what I claim. So far you haven't.
I do flyball for fun, because my Dutchie needs an outlet. When did I say yours didnt perform? Bottom line my dogs have more important things to do than prance around a TINY obedience ring. Competition obedience is minimal to other obedience routines and keeping a dog controlled and obedient while in prey/defense/fight drive, now that is the true challenge and fun of it all.
Schutzhund/any personal protection titles (high titles/scores) are enough to deem a dog worthy of breeding, but having a AKC obedience title doesnt mean squat.
And who are you to me, exactly? What do I have to prove to you? Absolutely nothing seeing as you are nothing to me.
When you get a real dog, let me know, then we'll talk.
Goodbye, I have nothing else to say to you.
Schutzhund/any personal protection titles (high titles/scores) are enough to deem a dog worthy of breeding, but having a AKC obedience title doesnt mean squat.
And who are you to me, exactly? What do I have to prove to you? Absolutely nothing seeing as you are nothing to me.
When you get a real dog, let me know, then we'll talk.
Goodbye, I have nothing else to say to you.