Dog Breeds That Shouldn't Be Bred?

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I don't think it's possible to have a BREED that shouldn't be bred. There's a huge spectrum of dogs classified in a 'breed.'

There's the Working bred dogs, which serve a purpose and are bred for their ability to work, and show bred dogs-- which are bred for their looks and performance in show. I think both of these are (or should be) bred with health in mind.

On the other end, there's Puppy mills and back yard breeders. These dogs are normally bred without health, temperament and genetic sound-ness at all. As a result, you get screwed-up pups. I don't think These Dogs should be bred. Of any breed.

Somewhere in between, you have people breeding different types of lines, like the bulldogs earlier in the thread. That's hardly the same breed.

Like it was said above, you can't classify a breed as one type anymore, so you can't really say a breed shouldn't or should be bred, I guess.
 

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There are breds I think that should definetly be bred to be more functional, like the english bulldog (they just look uncomfortable) but I dunno about stopping breeding them, everything has its place.
 
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I think there are some breeds that need tweaking to their standards to help them live a more comfortable and happier life. Not necessary stop breeding them all together.

I feel sorry for a few different breeds. Some breeds definitely have it a lot better than other breeds. The smooshed in nose breeds have a hard time breathing a lot of times. How scary. A lot of them get yeast infections in their deep rolls. My fiance wants an english bull dog, and I say no way in hell!! Give me an old style bull dog.

Some breeds have horrendous strain on their joints. One reason why I despise american bully breeders. Just looking at one of those dogs makes me quiver. Dont they take into consideration of what their dog has to go through? Selfish...
 
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I hate plucking bichon ears... and poodle ears. It always seems like they're half way to china. I don't know if that's a breed thing though, or just a hair type. o_O
Cockers are bad for long ear hair too.
I would include Cockers on my list of dogs that give me a twinge, because they've got the long ears, and the long, wavy hair. My list would include any breed whose hair is so long that they get crazy matted or start collecting leaves on their legs, or worse, poop around their butts. And of course, the breeds who can't function normally in warmish weather, or who are bred purposely for fiddle fronts, super-short legs, protruding or droopy eyes, etc.

But again, my list is simply a no way, no how would I ever own that dog list. I wouldn't presume to bar their breeding because I'm sure there are folks who like that sort of thing. :confused: :rofl1:
 

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I would just like to see the breeds returned to their original form. The Dachshund wasn't always so extremely low to the ground with such an extremely long back. It was more proportional back in the old days.

And the Bulldog has also suffered the same fate of human's greed and ego via the desire to turn a breed into a somewhat functional one into an extreme looking dog with serious health issues all for the sake of fashion.

But these aren't the only breeds. Just about every breed is changing and I personally cannot think of a single one that is changing for the better. Such sad times we are in.

(However, I don't believe that dogs that cannot mate and give birth naturally should be bred at this time. Our vet clinic will not AI these dogs whatsoever.)
 

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Wheatens and cocker spaniels!!! Why?? You go work at a boarding kennel and you'll understand...They are the two filthiest breeds!! Disgusting!! :yikes:

But on a serious note ~ I don't think any breed should not be bred. I do think that every breed probably has bloodlines that shouldn't be continued, but that's a different issue.
 
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Somewhere in between, you have people breeding different types of lines, like the bulldogs earlier in the thread. That's hardly the same breed.
Those bulldogs were a mix of 4 different breeds. It's definitely not the same 'breed' you see in the show ring.
 
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I don't want to say any certain breeds shouldn't be bred. There are many breeds I would never buy or own because of health and physical, temperment problems, but other people may like them. I guess that is their right.
 

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super-short legs,
Honest question - does this include corgis?

IMO corgis are fine - they have their "sawed off legs" for a reason - it's functional. I'm not too familiar with the conformation-bred ones, but most (if not all) working (herding, farm and equine) corgis I've met have been the healthiest, most robust and tough little buggers alive!
 

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Honest question - does this include corgis?

IMO corgis are fine - they have their "sawed off legs" for a reason - it's functional. I'm not too familiar with the conformation-bred ones, but most (if not all) working (herding, farm and equine) corgis I've met have been the healthiest, most robust and tough little buggers alive!
Actually, the corgi's legs have gotten shorter due to popular trends in the breed ring. Compare a corgi from the 30's and 40's to today's. They really lost a bit of their working abilities when their legs got shorter. Ares is a bit of a throwback. He's got longer legs and a thinner frame. He's much more athletic than modern-day corgis.

*sigh* It's my understanding that they are beginning to breed the legs off the vallhunds now.
 

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I think some of the TYPES of dogs being bred today need to have some tweaking...namely those that cannot mate or whelp naturally. I know I'm repeating what others have already stated. Start breeding back towards the original look.

I've met a couple of the Victorian Bulldogs, another ones of those supposed "old-type" lines and they're pretty able little dogs. :yikes: The pup I met was a giant PITA too...all brawn and no brain.
 

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Actually, the corgi's legs have gotten shorter due to popular trends in the breed ring. Compare a corgi from the 30's and 40's to today's. They really lost a bit of their working abilities when their legs got shorter. Ares is a bit of a throwback. He's got longer legs and a thinner frame. He's much more athletic than modern-day corgis.

*sigh* It's my understanding that they are beginning to breed the legs off the vallhunds now.
Oy vey... what a shame for the Vallhunds. Urg.

Ada doesn't have super short legs - hers are longer than the corgis I see at the dog shows. She's also not as loooooooooong as the show corgis.

Granted, she's not identical to the corgis of old, but IMO she's closer than a lot of show corgis. I wish many conformation folk (in MANY breeds) didn't favor lighter/whiter/brighter over rich color. English setters are almost pure white now, and corgis (at least in my area) are getting lighter and lighter - it's hard to find a nice rich red, they're all creamy fawn. Cream masks are the norm. Urg.



 
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Actually, the corgi's legs have gotten shorter due to popular trends in the breed ring. Compare a corgi from the 30's and 40's to today's. They really lost a bit of their working abilities when their legs got shorter. Ares is a bit of a throwback. He's got longer legs and a thinner frame. He's much more athletic than modern-day corgis.

*sigh* It's my understanding that they are beginning to breed the legs off the vallhunds now.
People like to go to EXTREMES with every breed. Apparently looks are more important than anything.

Chihuahuas are being bred so small (under 3 pounds) that they dont even have enough room in their mouth to grow teeth! Get a hamster for crying out loud, lol.
 
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Honest question - does this include corgis?

IMO corgis are fine - they have their "sawed off legs" for a reason - it's functional. I'm not too familiar with the conformation-bred ones, but most (if not all) working (herding, farm and equine) corgis I've met have been the healthiest, most robust and tough little buggers alive!
I don't know. I guess part of me refuses to believe that a dog that removed from the general canine type can be healthy. Are Corgis supposed to be really easty-westy with their legs seemingly pinned together under their chest? I see that a lot, and it just doesn't seem like it would be a healthy, comfortable structure to live with. ETA: Undoubtedly there are other Corgis who are built more moderately, and would do just fine. I just wish they wouldn't have passed around a memo that they need to try and obliterate my dogs. :rofl1:
 

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Are Corgis supposed to be really easty-westy with their legs seemingly pinned together under their chest? I see that a lot, and it just doesn't seem like it would be a healthy, comfortable structure to live with.
The cardigan breed standard does call for the feet to turn out a bit. What the origins are and why that is in the standard, I have no idea. I don't see as many working cardies as I do pemmies.

The feet are relatively large and rounded, with well filled pads. They point slightly outward from a straight-ahead position to balance the width of the shoulders. This outward point is not to be more than 30 degrees from center line when viewed from above. The toes should not be splayed.
 

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