"Your puppy is FAT" is what i was told by someone today?!?

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:mad: that is what someone said to me today!?!?

i was out in the freezing cold weather today walking my pups ( it was like 15F) and i had someone walk up to me and look at my pup who is a German Shepard Lab mix, thunder weighs aprox. 55lbs, he is extremely active and spends anywhere from 3 to 4 hours per day running in the back yard chasing Cinni ( she is a lab/whippet mix, he only eats 2 times per day and he is not even 6 months old yet..

i was so taken back by this, so, i called my family vet and asked if he was getting to big to fast, he said that since he is still a puppy, he will have 'puppy fat' on him so he will have a little bit of a belly, but, once he grows up, it will go away, also, he said that in the winter pups ( and dogs) gain more weight in the winter ( they store more fat) so, it is not abnormal to see a dog look heavy in the winter.


i hate in when people look at a pup and assume that are overweight/underweight, to small too big, etc... :rolleyes: some people.
 

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I know we take it very personally when people talk bad about our dogs, but unfortunately this is probably not the last time someone will say something mean.

I have a chihuahua, we spend a lot of time in public and in pet stores (chihuahuas need a lot of socialization! plus it's fun), and have had countless people tell me nasty things about her. One guy came with his kids to pet her, and he said he had a chi when he was a kid. He told his kids, "This dog [my dog] is going to shake from the day she was born to the day she dies." She was NOT shaking, which I pointed out, then he looked closely and said, "She's shaking a little." No she wasn't. Many people have told me how ugly she is, how aggressive she is (not because she was acting aggressively, but because apparently "all" chihuahuas are innately aggressive), and on and on.

It stinks, it's frustrating, but it's going to happen and we just have to have enough confidence in ourselves to know that we're doing everything we can, and then shrug it off.
 

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That was really rude, I don't see why people think it's acceptable to say that kind of stuff to strangers.

I believe the correct response to that is, "so's yer mama."
I agree! :D

i was so taken back by this, so, i called my family vet and asked if he was getting to big to fast, he said that since he is still a puppy, he will have 'puppy fat' on him so he will have a little bit of a belly,
I'm no vet, but I don't think young dogs should have 'puppy fat,' I'd rather see a dog be lean (not skinny, and not lacking nutrition), no use putting the strain of extra weight on a puppy's joints at this young an age.
 

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Lots of people with no clue give idiotic commentary and advice. Welcome to the world.

The same person probably would tell me that Xena is too thin (athletic build with a small waist and barrel chest).
 

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People are sooo rude. But also, while I'm not a vet, a big growing puppy shouldnt have a lot of "puppy fat" IMO.
 
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well i called another vet today and they told me it is ok for a puppy to have little puppy fat on them, but after about 9 months it should all go away. for now i have lowered his intake food to 2 times a day ( before it was 3 ) and increased his exercise from 3 days a week to 5 ( not including his 8 hours of backyard play LOL)
 

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( not including his 8 hours of backyard play LOL)
8 hours? Is this by any chance while you're at work all day?

Because besides being dangerous for a puppy to be outside unsupervised (people steal puppies and sell them, or if he barks too much neighbors could harm him or kill him, this happpened to a friend of mine, or he could eat something dangerous, etc.), he's probably not actually exercising. Most dogs, when left on their own outside, just lay around in the sun all day.

Since we still don't know what breed your dog is, you might consider that bigger breeds can't handle too much exercise when they're growing puppies, it's not good for their joints. Others here who've raised a large breed could help you more there if you do have a large breed.
 
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8 hours? Is this by any chance while you're at work all day?

Because besides being dangerous for a puppy to be outside unsupervised (people steal puppies and sell them, or if he barks too much neighbors could harm him or kill him, this happpened to a friend of mine, or he could eat something dangerous, etc.), he's probably not actually exercising. Most dogs, when left on their own outside, just lay around in the sun all day.

Since we still don't know what breed your dog is, you might consider that bigger breeds can't handle too much exercise when they're growing puppies, it's not good for their joints. Others here who've raised a large breed could help you more there if you do have a large breed.
i guess i just live in a much better location in which you can still walk down the street at 10pm at night or even run at 4am in the wee hours of the morning and no one bothers you.

as a matter of fact he is outside while we are at work for 8 hours per day. We are lucky to live in a neighborhood which gets patrolled my Bountiful/Woods Cross POLICE department every hour on the hour!!! so, as for your statement of stealing dogs and selling them IT DOES NOT HAPPEN HERE! and ALL my neighbors have dogs and pups they ALL bark at many different hours of the day. we have dogs to the left of us, behind us ( they are full grown lab and a full grown golden retrevier.) and to the right of us as well ( they are both jack russells. and the neighbor just across from us has her dog running around the fenced front yard all day with no problems what so ever.

as for your statement about the breed i have a lab german shepard mix who will be 6 months old, and to poppy cosh with your saying that a pup does not need exercise... he is a well behaved well mannered very healthy pup, our vet says he is doing very well, including his joints muscles and teeth, in fact, he and others have stated we have done such a good job with him that they say he could not be doing better. he has a nice set of teeth ( my son plays tug of war with him to strengthen his teeth) and runs with him all the time..

my lil girl Cinni his a lab/whippett mix, she is just over 7 months old, and LOVES to run and play and exercise ALL DAY long ( they sleep all night long).

and lastly the statement about breeding and raising large breed dogs, i already have tons of experiance, since i was a child i helped raise labs, collies, great danes, and the like, so, when i ask for advice, it is more of a refresher course ( things change over time ya know)

anyways, thanks for the concern, but, my dogs are very well cared for, and, unlike alot of dogs, can be trusted in the home ( which is puppyproofed with locked doors and nothing but chewies on the floor) they have yet to chew up our 1,000 couch set, nor have they gotten to the wires to the tv or anything, when we leave the house, it looks the same as when we left it. and, no they had not one day of formal training nor crates ( dont like them do not believe in them and will never us them).. and they are great being alone... i see it this way, if my pups trust me and listen to me when i am here they know better than to make mistakes when i am gone.

and nothing you can say or tell me will change my mind, my dogs do not live in a bubble their whole lives, that is not to say i do not look out for their safetly, but, in the same aspect i do not "sugar coat" it either, they know not to counter surf when i am not home, they basically do the same things when we are here vs when we are not!
 

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ok wow.
defensive much?!

im glad you live in some magical paridise world where nothing bad happens and your police have nothing better to do than patrol your neighbourhood...

wouldnt it be nice if we were all so lucky huh?!

then again, i can imagine the kind of insanity that will happen if that perfect world ever changes...
 

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People are sooo rude. But also, while I'm not a vet, a big growing puppy shouldnt have a lot of "puppy fat" IMO.
I agree with Grace. I have a shepard coonhound mix that at 5 mths maybe weighed 40 45 tops and was considered big for his breed mix. He had no puppy fat at all on him and most dogs by 5 mths that are playing at much should be mostly muscle that much puppy fat is detremental to their joint health.
 

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Puppylover, have you considered that your boy wouldn't have that excess fat if you didn't free-feed him? Just a suggestion... Labs and Lab mixes often eat more than they really need, just because they love eating.
 

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Puppylover, have you considered that your boy wouldn't have that excess fat if you didn't free-feed him? Just a suggestion... Labs and Lab mixes often eat more than they really need, just because they love eating.
Amen.. Buddy would eat a whole bag of food if I let him.
 

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to poppy cosh with your saying that a pup does not need exercise...
Sometimes I forget what I've said in the past, but I don't think I said that a pup does not need exercise. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

and lastly the statement about breeding and raising large breed dogs
I don't know what you're referring to here.

when i ask for advice, it is more of a refresher course ( things change over time ya know)
That's a great attitude to have, I wish more people realize that things change. Since we don't know exactly what everyone who posts here knows, we generally have to assume that people don't know much at all, so maybe some of our posts are too elementry for you.
 

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I agree with Grace. I have a shepard coonhound mix that at 5 mths maybe weighed 40 45 tops and was considered big for his breed mix. He had no puppy fat at all on him and most dogs by 5 mths that are playing at much should be mostly muscle that much puppy fat is detremental to their joint health.
I think that since the OP has consulted two vets about this, we should probably trust their opinions.
 

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Yea well i dont put complete trust in vets sorry. I had a vet try to tell me my greyhound was way to skinny when he is the same weight he was when he came off the track 4 years ago. And another one tried to tell me my APBT was to skinny because she was not built like a house. She was a small compact dog and looked exactly like a APBT should.
 
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Puppylover, have you considered that your boy wouldn't have that excess fat if you didn't free-feed him? Just a suggestion... Labs and Lab mixes often eat more than they really need, just because they love eating.
um i do not recall saying i free feed them?? i put food down in the morning for them before i go to work ( that is usually around 8 am) then around 4 pm my son comes home and feeds them again. i do not consider that free feeding, to me free feeding is to have food down ALL the time ( like when the bowl is empty it immediatly gets filled again.
 
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I think that since the OP has consulted two vets about this, we should probably trust their opinions.
thank you Lizzy, i for one am all for vets, because ( and i will get guff for this) they do go to school to become a vet and practice what they know, granted NOT ALL OF THEM ARE TRUSTWORTHY ( just like cops, dr's and such) but, i have known the vets i get my advise from for many years, and trust what they are saying.
 
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Sometimes I forget what I've said in the past, but I don't think I said that a pup does not need exercise. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


I don't know what you're referring to here.


That's a great attitude to have, I wish more people realize that things change. Since we don't know exactly what everyone who posts here knows, we generally have to assume that people don't know much at all, so maybe some of our posts are too elementry for you.
on the contrary, i never said i knew it all, LOL, i mean my thunder WHINES all the time for now reason, and i found out that he has a human form of 'colic" LMAO, some dogs get it some dogs dont. i learn all the time about my pups, and need to be educated everyday.
 
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ok wow.
defensive much?!

im glad you live in some magical paradise world where nothing bad happens and your police have nothing better to do than patrol your neighborhood...

wouldnt it be nice if we were all so lucky huh?!

then again, i can imagine the kind of insanity that will happen if that perfect world ever changes...
i never said i lived in a magical paridise, so dont know where you got that from. all i said was that the place i chose to live has nearly NO crime rate, not because the police have nothing better to do. they patrol so the crime rate stays low. we have police that ride bikes around the neighborhood, because they CARE about the kind of place they live, work and play. they even built a playground right next to the city hall.

i am not going to apologize for where we chose to live. we took alot of time, money and effort to look for this place. we looked at:

Location ( it is important)
commute time ( to and from work, school)
school ( middle and high school) and distance
cost of housing around the area
amenities offered ( 1 bath 3 bed's)
types of hook ups ( washer/dryer)

so of course i am not going to say im sorry. there is no need. and to your comment about 'perfect world will end', well the reason we took so much time and effort to take into getting this place, is because, unlike alot of young married couples, we plan on making this place our home for at least the next 30 years or more ( yes, we will be one of the few that pays off there house), so, our 'magical world' as you put it, will not end to soon.
 

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